Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-12 Thread James Hawkins
On 10/12/05, Tony Lambregts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can try to list the correct dll under each category but I am going to > need som help somewhere along the line. Some are obvious to me but > others make my head hum... > > If it is worth while I am certainly willing to do it. > I think w

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-12 Thread Tony Lambregts
Francois Gouget wrote: On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Tony Lambregts wrote: [...] I'm not sure about 'Window painting in Wine', but we could have one keyword per dll. Then once a bug is disgnosed down to a specific dll, the relevant keyword would be added. This would let developpers with specific know

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-11 Thread Tony Lambregts
Detlef Riekenberg wrote: Am Dienstag, den 11.10.2005, 12:48 +0200 schrieb Francois Gouget: And since components might be a better match than keywords for some tasks, I will just mention that like keywords they are not freetext, they are clearly displayed in the GUI, and have a page describing

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-11 Thread Detlef Riekenberg
Am Dienstag, den 11.10.2005, 12:48 +0200 schrieb Francois Gouget: > And since components might be a better match than keywords for some > tasks, I will just mention that like keywords they are not freetext, > they are clearly displayed in the GUI, and have a page describing them > (http://bugs.

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-11 Thread Molle Bestefich
Francois Gouget wrote: [...] Thanks for the clarifications ;)! > There is a page which describes each keyword. To get to it simply click > on the 'Keywords:' label in any bug: > > http://bugs.winehq.org/describekeywords.cgi Well, there I go. That page was well hidden from public view. I see

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-11 Thread Francois Gouget
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Molle Bestefich wrote: [...] It's mainly a user interface thing. Freetext keywords seem like this really weird feature, which is not clearly represented in the UI, and where the consequences of entering a particular keyword is not especially clear. I think that noone likes

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-11 Thread Molle Bestefich
Francois Gouget wrote: > Molle Bestefich wrote: > > Richard Cohen wrote: > >> Metabugs are generally a bad idea because they are very hard to > >> maintain. What is the point of "Get games working perfectly", and how > >> can it ever be resolved? > > > > Who said it needs to be resolved, ever, or i

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-11 Thread Francois Gouget
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Tony Lambregts wrote: [...] I'm not sure about 'Window painting in Wine', but we could have one keyword per dll. Then once a bug is disgnosed down to a specific dll, the relevant keyword would be added. This would let developpers with specific knowledge of a given dll look

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-10 Thread Tony Lambregts
Francois Gouget wrote: On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Molle Bestefich wrote: Richard Cohen wrote: Metabugs are generally a bad idea because they are very hard to maintain. What is the point of "Get games working perfectly", and how can it ever be resolved? Who said it needs to be resolved, ever, or

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-10 Thread James Hawkins
On 10/10/05, Francois Gouget <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd like to see metabugs for each DLL or larger area, for instance > > "Window painting in Wine". > > I'm not sure about 'Window painting in Wine', but we could have one > keyword per dll. Then once a bug is disgnosed down to a specific

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-10 Thread Francois Gouget
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Molle Bestefich wrote: Richard Cohen wrote: Metabugs are generally a bad idea because they are very hard to maintain. What is the point of "Get games working perfectly", and how can it ever be resolved? Who said it needs to be resolved, ever, or in any kind of near future

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-10 Thread Molle Bestefich
Richard Cohen wrote: > Metabugs are generally a bad idea because they are very hard to > maintain. What is the point of "Get games working perfectly", and how > can it ever be resolved? Who said it needs to be resolved, ever, or in any kind of near future? I see metabugs more as a categorization

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-10 Thread James Hawkins
On 10/10/05, Richard Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James Hawkins wrote: > All of these > > bugs need to be reopened (including 2858) and marked as blockers of > > the meta-bug "IE6 fails to install". > > > Reopening them is pointless, because most of them are so old that > ie6setup does not f

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-10 Thread Richard Cohen
James Hawkins wrote: All of these bugs need to be reopened (including 2858) and marked as blockers of the meta-bug "IE6 fails to install". > Reopening them is pointless, because most of them are so old that ie6setup does not fail in that way anymore. So they would be resolved as fixed until we

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-10 Thread Richard Cohen
Dan Kegel wrote: Marking the other bugs as duplicates of 2858 was probably fine, but I think we ought to leave 2858 open, or if we do not plan to fix it, mark it "WILLNOTFIX" rather than "FIXED". The instructions in the appdb are arguably a workaround rather than a fix. I'm happy to do either

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-10 Thread James Hawkins
On 10/10/05, Richard Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan Kegel wrote: > > Good point. Got a few examples bug numbers that were resolved like that? > > > See http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2858 > > I recently resolved a lot of whiskery old bugs, essentially "IE6 > installer fails", > wit

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-10 Thread Dan Kegel
On 10/10/05, Richard Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2858 > > I recently resolved a lot of whiskery old bugs, essentially "IE6 > installer fails", > with directions to the AppDB, because it fixes the user's problem, and > IE6 will install the DLLs it ne

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-10 Thread wino
r to keep wine's bugzilla as a reliable status of wine's bugs. I offer this as the beginning of a discussion of bugzilla administration policies. Any thoughts, comments, and ideas are welcome. -- James Hawkins That was basically the point I was trying to make in the autocleaning sc

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-10 Thread Richard Cohen
Dan Kegel wrote: Good point. Got a few examples bug numbers that were resolved like that? See http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2858 I recently resolved a lot of whiskery old bugs, essentially "IE6 installer fails", with directions to the AppDB, because it fixes the user's problem, and

Re: Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-10 Thread Dan Kegel
On 10/9/05, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quite a few bugs have been closed recently > referring the user to the instructions in the AppDB or to a list of > dll overrides that makes the app work. Recommending a dll override > can be useful to the end user as a temporary workaround, bu

Bugzilla administration policies

2005-10-09 Thread James Hawkins
s the beginning of a discussion of bugzilla administration policies. Any thoughts, comments, and ideas are welcome. -- James Hawkins