Re: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread gslink
Just what business applications are you trying to run on Wine?

Re: AW: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Kuba Ober
> That, plus there are _enough_ open source tools, utilities and applications > having the same purpose as many Windows applications, e.g. OpenOffice which > pretty much gives everything needed to the *average* > Word/Excel/Access/Powerpoint user. Heck, I always disliked MS Word interface via Visu

Re: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Detlef Riekenberg
Roland Kaeser wrote: > But to see the changes in 0.9.17 makes me really angry. Please do not get upset. > Is everybody developing for the gamers? No. Unpaid Developer are developing what is on there Interests. > Currently I have many bugzilla bugs open to be fixed to get business > applicatio

AW: Getting Help With Bugs (was: Re: AW: 0.9.17 and other issues)

2006-07-11 Thread Roland Kaeser
app is more powerful than their windows version.Roland- Ursprüngliche Mail Von: Robert Shearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>An: Roland Kaeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC: wine-devel@winehq.orgGesendet: Dienstag, den 11. Juli 2006, 17:17:55 UhrBetreff: Getting Help With Bugs (was: Re: AW: 0.9.17 and

Getting Help With Bugs (was: Re: AW: 0.9.17 and other issues)

2006-07-11 Thread Robert Shearman
Roland Kaeser wrote: The following is not specific for you, but something I hope can help others out that are in your situation: There are a number of things you can do to make your bugs more likely to be fixed by volunteer developers: 1 File a bug! 2. Describe the bug accurately. If it

re: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Dan Kegel
Roland Kaeser wrote: [I have ten open bugs against business apps, why aren't they fixed yet?] Well, let's see. Here are your bugs: http://bugs.winehq.org/buglist.cgi?emailreporter2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=roli8200 It looks like there are a few things you could do to speed things up. L

Re: AW: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Ray Jones
I think the basic point is, everbody here is doing what he *can* do. _For free!_ Also, it seems somewhat unfortunate for you, that "your" apps refuse to work, granted. But most of the Applications I'm trying to run /do run/. And by the time (within the last 6 months) they started doing so *witho

Re: AW: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Roland Kaeser
he Mail Von: Kuba Ober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>An: Roland Kaeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Gesendet: Dienstag, den 11. Juli 2006, 15:40:19 UhrBetreff: Re: AW: 0.9.17 and other issues> For sample: most of the people in the office depend on MS Office 2003 and> some other small apps. I also

Re: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Christoph Frick
On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 12:50:40PM +, Roland Kaeser wrote: > >the goal is to implement the win32 APIs on top of unix. this does > >neither exclude the gamers nor the "appers". > But remember the mission: Bring the people to Linux! It's just a > matter of priorization. What brings more people

Re: AW: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Kuba Ober
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 08:50, Roland Kaeser wrote: > >the goal is to implement the win32 APIs on top of unix. this does > >neither exclude the gamers nor the "appers". > > No that wasn't my idea. But remember the mission: Bring the people to > Linux! It's just a matter of priorization. What bring

AW: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Roland Kaeser
specially in this case) I gonna fight for linux (in my sourrounding areas) and doesn't get adequate supply from the programmers front.>- Ursprüngliche Mail >Von: Joerg Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>An: Roland Kaeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Gesendet: Dienstag, den 11. Juli 2006, 1

AW: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Roland Kaeser
be done.Roland>- Ursprüngliche Mail >Von: n0dalus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>An: Roland Kaeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>CC: wine-devel@winehq.com>Gesendet: Dienstag, den 11. Juli 2006, 12:49:26 Uhr>Betreff: Re: 0.9.17 and other issues>On 7/11/06, Roland Kaeser <[EMAIL

AW: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Roland Kaeser
ail >Von: Christoph Frick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>An: Roland Kaeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>CC: wine-devel@winehq.org>Gesendet: Dienstag, den 11. Juli 2006, 13:11:29 Uhr>Betreff: Re: 0.9.17 and other issues>>On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 10:02:31AM +, Roland Kaeser wrote:>>

Re: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Mike McCormack
Roland Kaeser wrote: In the offices I support as admin/sys engineer, we are all waiting for wine becomes stable enough to get the business apps running to switch to linux completely. But all I can see is that all the bugs are already there from release to release! So you have three choice

Re: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Christoph Frick
On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 10:02:31AM +, Roland Kaeser wrote: > I know thats cool developing gaming features but THAT CANNOT BE THE > GOAL! the goal is to implement the win32 APIs on top of unix. this does neither exclude the gamers nor the "appers". > In the offices I support as admin/sys

Re: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Tim Schmidt
Hi Roland... It's not nice to yell. --tim

Re: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 10:02:31AM +, Roland Kaeser wrote: > Hello All > > By all respect of all the hard work the developers make all day. But to see > the changes in 0.9.17 makes me really angry. Is everybody developing for the > gamers? Whats the focus of the wine development? Currently

Re: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread n0dalus
On 7/11/06, Roland Kaeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By all respect of all the hard work the developers make all day. But to see the changes in 0.9.17 makes me really angry. Is everybody developing for the gamers? Whats the focus of the wine development? Currently I have many bugzilla bugs open

Re: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread H. Verbeet
On 11/07/06, Roland Kaeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But to see the changes in 0.9.17 makes me really angry. Is everybody developing for the gamers? Did you actually read the Changelog? http://source.winehq.org/source/ChangeLog

Re: 0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Ivan Gyurdiev
By all respect of all the hard work the developers make all day. But to see the changes in 0.9.17 makes me really angry. Is everybody developing for the gamers? Actually I would say that the majority of developers are working on features not directly related to games. Whats the focus of the

0.9.17 and other issues

2006-07-11 Thread Roland Kaeser
Hello AllBy all respect of all the hard work the developers make all day. But to see the changes in 0.9.17 makes me really angry. Is everybody developing for the gamers?  Whats the focus of the wine development? Currently I have many bugzilla bugs open to be fixed to get business applications runni