Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-21 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > I've spent enough time doing so and can tell that you are the first person > to move _all bugs_ to "unknown" component. And leave them there. That's a gratuitous conclusion, where did get that idea? > And that > all developers can't be expected to read every single b

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-21 Thread Jerome Leclanche
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > On 01/21/2012 10:07 AM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: > >> I think that's the point Henri was trying to make. Most of these >> components >> are useless. >> >> Sure, you *can* pinpoint every component down, but as Henri said, if you >> do >> tha

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-21 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
On 01/21/2012 10:07 AM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: I think that's the point Henri was trying to make. Most of these components are useless. Sure, you *can* pinpoint every component down, but as Henri said, if you do that, what's most likely to happen is you end up writing a patch. It's probably wo

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-21 Thread Jerome Leclanche
I think that's the point Henri was trying to make. Most of these components are useless. Sure, you *can* pinpoint every component down, but as Henri said, if you do that, what's most likely to happen is you end up writing a patch. It's probably worth checking every category and remove the ones wi

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-21 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
Saulius Krasuckas wrote: > > While keywords & components overlap, more generic components will not > > overlap with specific ones. And if we name all of them > > "unknown-something" that will help user / bugzilla triage people to pick > > closer area for SMEs to do more detailed investigation.

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-21 Thread Saulius Krasuckas
* On Fri, 20 Jan 2012, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > > While keywords & components overlap, more generic components will not > overlap with specific ones. And if we name all of them > "unknown-something" that will help user / bugzilla triage people to pick > closer area for SMEs to do more detailed

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-20 Thread Henri Verbeet
On 21 January 2012 03:48, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > IMHO, it should be an additional component sound-general, or sound-unknown, > or better yet "unknown-sound". There are many areas like that, that require > investigation by a person with knowledge of said area to properly set > component. > Yes,

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-20 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
On 01/20/2012 12:45 PM, Austin English wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:04, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: Henri Verbeet wrote: On 20 January 2012 17:25, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: If the problem is sound related there are usually some known words in the summary line describing the problem, why not

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-20 Thread Austin English
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:04, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > Henri Verbeet wrote: > >> On 20 January 2012 17:25, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: >> > If the problem is sound related there are usually some known words in >> > the summary line describing the problem, why not search for them? Why >> > do you t

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-20 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
Henri Verbeet wrote: > On 20 January 2012 17:25, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > > If the problem is sound related there are usually some known words in > > the summary line describing the problem, why not search for them? Why > > do you think inventing a new keyword and adding it to the buch of bugs

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-20 Thread Henri Verbeet
On 20 January 2012 17:25, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > If the problem is sound related there are usually some known words in > the summary line describing the problem, why not search for them? Why > do you think inventing a new keyword and adding it to the buch of bugs > is easier that correctly form

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-20 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
Andrew Eikum wrote: > > > Because then I can search for audio-related bugs where the component > > > is not yet known. > > > > If the component is unknown probably there is no need to speculate about > > the reasons and the source of the bug and investigate the problem instead? > > > > I can't

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-20 Thread Andrew Eikum
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:40:53PM +0800, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > Andrew Eikum wrote: > > > > > Austin English wrote: > > > > >If no one opposes in the next few days I'll add it/start tagging bugs. > > > > I'm no more opposed to adding a pseudo-component. I simply > > > > suggest naming it unk

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-20 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
Andrew Eikum wrote: > > > Austin English wrote: > > > >If no one opposes in the next few days I'll add it/start tagging bugs. > > > I'm no more opposed to adding a pseudo-component. I simply > > > suggest naming it unknown-audio or unknown-sound instead of > > > "sound" such that people will hop

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-20 Thread Andrew Eikum
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 07:23:42PM +0800, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > joerg-cyril.hoe...@t-systems.com wrote: > > > Austin English wrote: > > >If no one opposes in the next few days I'll add it/start tagging bugs. > > I'm no more opposed to adding a pseudo-component. I simply > > suggest naming it

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-20 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
joerg-cyril.hoe...@t-systems.com wrote: > Austin English wrote: > >If no one opposes in the next few days I'll add it/start tagging bugs. > I'm no more opposed to adding a pseudo-component. I simply > suggest naming it unknown-audio or unknown-sound instead of > "sound" such that people will hope

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-20 Thread Jerome Leclanche
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:49 AM, wrote: > BTW, can I rename one of my saved searches? > Saving it as a different name (at the bottom of the page) does the trick. > Thank you, >Jörg Höhle > > J. Leclanche

"Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-20 Thread Joerg-Cyril . Hoehle
Hi, Austin English wrote: >If no one opposes in the next few days I'll add it/start tagging bugs. I'm no more opposed to adding a pseudo-component. I simply suggest naming it unknown-audio or unknown-sound instead of "sound" such that people will hopefully still use the existing quartz, mmdevapi,

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-20 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
Jerome Leclanche wrote: > I see your point on printing but I disagree on it being "useless". If > "proper printing" had been a 1.4 milestone, I'm sure whoever would have > worked on it would find it wonderfully useful. If somebody is lazy or clueless to set a proper bugzilla component, then usin

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-20 Thread Jerome Leclanche
I see your point on printing but I disagree on it being "useless". If "proper printing" had been a 1.4 milestone, I'm sure whoever would have worked on it would find it wonderfully useful. J. Leclanche On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > Austin English wrote: > > > I wo

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-20 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
Austin English wrote: > I would say this is what components are for, though the point that > pulseaudio/etc. bugs were filed as -unknown is valid. > > If no one opposes in the next few days I'll add it/start tagging bugs. I'd oppose to adding yet another useless keyword just to avoid setting ap

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-19 Thread Austin English
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > Joerg and I exchanged a couple of emails where I proposed a "sound" >> > keyword on bugzilla. Reasoning: there are multiple sound components, and >>

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-18 Thread Andrew Eikum
; > Joerg and I exchanged a couple of emails where I proposed a "sound" > > keyword on bugzilla. Reasoning: there are multiple sound components, and > > most of the time, the correct component is unknown (or could even be caused > > by non-sound components). > > > > Thoughts? > > > > J. Leclanche > > >

Re: "Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-18 Thread Jerome Leclanche
Any comments? J. Leclanche On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: > Hi, > > Joerg and I exchanged a couple of emails where I proposed a "sound" > keyword on bugzilla. Reasoning: there are multiple sound components, and > most of the time, the correct

"Sound" keyword on bugzilla

2012-01-16 Thread Jerome Leclanche
Hi, Joerg and I exchanged a couple of emails where I proposed a "sound" keyword on bugzilla. Reasoning: there are multiple sound components, and most of the time, the correct component is unknown (or could even be caused by non-sound components). Thoughts? J. Leclanche