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There's something many people are missing here and something that the
"noobs" enforce. They come in, know little about wine, then attempt to
"help" other people, of course they don't because their information and
suggestions are wrong and either a) do
On Nov 7, 2007 9:42 PM, Edward Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Furthermore, I'd like to add the comment that the majority of the time
> Vitamin is perfectly calm and collected in his moderating, I'd like to
> stress this. Though some times he acts far outside what is required
> of him, no user
Tom, you can try to guilt me, but I don't care.
There are two sides to this. Either you think that #winehq is a
support channel for end users, and should if not cater to them, at
least treat them with some respect until they've proved that they
deserve none, or you think that #winehq is a channel w
This thread has made me nothing but sick.. Chris suggest we ban
Vitamin, Jeremy suggested he not use his OP privileges for a time.
others bitch and cry that there being treated mean... But as the song
goes, one should never spit into the wind. So with that said until
Vitamin is asked to be a OP
Actually, Dan, I disagree. I don't think he needs to be taken off the
'frontlines' at all. I don't even think his ops permissions need to be taken
away, at least not yet. I think it's #winehq which needs to be taken care
of. We could ban Vitamin off the face of the internet, but that's not going
to
This thread has become rather long and I don't have time to catch up
completely on it though I'd like to add weight to those commenting on
how Vitamin deals with the channel.
Being one of the many users to suffer his wrath when I first joined
the wine community I can comment on just how off puttin
Luke Bratch wrote:
> After seeing Vitamin deal with people for a long time
> now, I can say I totally agree with how he does
> things.
Technically, he's spot on.
It's his bedside manner that is broken.
We really don't want him on the front line of support,
somebody else should do that.
But once th
On 11/5/07, Marcel Partap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > If people really are expected to know everything there is to know
> > before they try to help, is it really such a wonder that there's only
> > a few solid contributors left, and they're stressed from it?
> Absolutly not. That's why imho, t
> If people really are expected to know everything there is to know
> before they try to help, is it really such a wonder that there's only
> a few solid contributors left, and they're stressed from it?
Absolutly not. That's why imho, the #winehq should be taken off the homepage.
The newly create
Hi,
>>> I agree that this isn't something that should continue. Kicking should
>>> be reserved for people being disruptive. There is no reason to be
>>> anything other than polite to users asking for help.
>> How much time do you spend in #winehq? I know I don't spend much time there,
>> but I kno
On 11/5/07, Kai Blin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 05 November 2007 06:12:42 Chris Morgan wrote:
>
> > I agree that this isn't something that should continue. Kicking should
> > be reserved for people being disruptive. There is no reason to be
> > anything other than polite to users asking
Chris Morgan wrote:
> Allowing this kind of behavior to continue reflects
poorly on us as a
> community. I'd like to suggest that this be the last
time we hear
> about issues like this. If it happens again I'd like
to propose a
> graduated scale of irc channel bans, starting at one
month, for
> Vi
On Nov 5, 2007 11:51 AM, Stefan Dösinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I absolutely agree. Helping people in #winehq is a really bad job. Many people
> who go there seem to expect you to wave your magic wand to make their problem
> go away with zero effort from their side, and to make that instant
> On 11/5/07, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 05 November 2007 11:49:52 Hans Leidekker wrote:
> > On Monday 05 November 2007 10:39:32 Kai Blin wrote:
> > > Personally, I would like to see more people stepping up to help run
> > > #winehq instead of just complainin
Am Montag, 5. November 2007 10:39:32 schrieb Kai Blin:
> On Monday 05 November 2007 06:12:42 Chris Morgan wrote:
> > I agree that this isn't something that should continue. Kicking should
> > be reserved for people being disruptive. There is no reason to be
> > anything other than polite to users a
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
wine-devel@winehq.org> Subject: Re: #winehq admin troubles> Date: Mon, 5 Nov
2007 12:09:18 +0100> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> On Monday 05
November 2007 11:49:52 Hans Leidekker wrote:>
On Monday 05 November 2007 11:49:52 Hans Leidekker wrote:
> On Monday 05 November 2007 10:39:32 Kai Blin wrote:
> > Personally, I would like to see more people stepping up to help run
> > #winehq instead of just complaining about the work of one of the very few
> > people who actually are out there
On Monday 05 November 2007 10:39:32 Kai Blin wrote:
> Personally, I would like to see more people stepping up to help run #winehq
> instead of just complaining about the work of one of the very few people who
> actually are out there helping users.
As I understand this history feba thatl tried
>The line above is very important. I think it had to be sent to the channel.
>Please imagine yourself saying:
>(09:33:15 PM) vitamin: usrl, this will not help, as 0.9.47 and 0.9.48 are
>still broken for most Source games.
See, exactly. There is no reason to kick someone for making a comment
and t
On Monday 05 November 2007 06:12:42 Chris Morgan wrote:
> I agree that this isn't something that should continue. Kicking should
> be reserved for people being disruptive. There is no reason to be
> anything other than polite to users asking for help.
How much time do you spend in #winehq? I know
>> I agree that this isn't something that should continue. Kicking
>> should be reserved for people being disruptive. There is no reason
>> to be anything other than polite to users asking for help.
>>
>> Allowing this kind of behavior to continue reflects poorly on us as a
>> community. I'd like t
Hi!
Please, people, live in love and peace :-)! I think I see what happened...
Parts of the previous mail are swapped, it's better for the explanation.
Vitamin said:
>
> You omitted the reason:
>
> Nov 04 20:30:56 Gunn: that's an old version. Go to winehq.org and
> follow their instructions
On Monday 05 November 2007 08:09:03 Tom Wickline wrote:
> On 11/5/07, Chris Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I agree that this isn't something that should continue. Kicking should
> > be reserved for people being disruptive. There is no reason to be
> > anything other than polite to users aski
On 11/5/07, Chris Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I agree that this isn't something that should continue. Kicking should
> be reserved for people being disruptive. There is no reason to be
> anything other than polite to users asking for help.
>
> Allowing this kind of behavior to continue re
feba thatl wrote:
>
> (09:32:56 PM) The topic for #winehq is:[long topic removed]
> (09:33:09 PM) ***vitamin fucking tired all knowning noobs!
> (09:33:15 PM) : wine: cannot
> find '/media/cdrom0/intro.exe'
> (09:33:15 PM) vitamin: usrl, you better leave
> (09:33:25 PM) usrl: Why?
> (09:33:32 PM)
On 11/4/07, feba thatl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry if this mailing list is less than appropriate, but from what
> I've seen this is where the conversation was last time, and there
> doesn't seem to be much better.
>
> A while ago (Probably one-three months), I went to #winehq to ask
> about
Sorry if this mailing list is less than appropriate, but from what
I've seen this is where the conversation was last time, and there
doesn't seem to be much better.
A while ago (Probably one-three months), I went to #winehq to ask
about something, and was treated rather rudely by vitamin. I got
an
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