Re: #winehq admin abuse

2007-08-18 Thread Jan Zerebecki
On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 08:06:01PM -0700, Jonathan Challinger wrote: > I'm not going to continue this. This is my last message concerning this > argument. > I'm done with > wine, and now I'm done discussing its community's serious flaws. This is sad, after all a community is as good as the partic

Re: #winehq admin abuse

2007-08-17 Thread Jeremy White
> aren't, things like this happen. I'm still banned from the channel, > people in this mailing list have said he shouldn't have banned me, and > yet, I'm still not unbanned. Ouch. I will say that I appreciate all that Vitaliy does; he truly does an amazing amount of helpful work. I also have gre

Re: #winehq admin abuse

2007-08-16 Thread Jonathan Challinger
I'm not going to continue this. This is my last message concerning this argument. I just have a few things to point out. Yes, there should be specific rules for IRC. Obviously, when there aren't, things like this happen. I'm still banned from the channel, people in this mailing list have said he s

Re: #winehq admin abuse

2007-08-16 Thread Patrick Leamon
I think the poster was 'Pie-rate' in the chat logs. Pie-rate - you over-reacted to 'oh well' and you're next message was flame bait. Vitamin - you took the bait. I wouldn't have expected that from an admin in a help channel. Take a break if you feel the need to shout/swear at people. Or te

Re: #winehq admin abuse

2007-08-16 Thread Kai Blin
On Thursday 16 August 2007 20:27:04 Jonathan Challinger wrote: Jonathan, without wanting to give the impression that you posted on this list and now everybody is ganging up on you, I do have a couple of comments here. > Jan Zerebecki, I'd be happy to help, but how? I could develop some > guidel

Re: #winehq admin abuse

2007-08-16 Thread Jesse Allen
> That's like inviting people to an installfest, > and then when they ask for help installing something saying "OH WELL" > and spitting in their faces." I think I can explain my thinking plainer: One person tells another, "I need a dollar to buy a candy bar", You don't have a dollar, or not inter

Re: #winehq admin abuse

2007-08-16 Thread Jesse Allen
On 8/15/07, Jonathan Challinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Below is a log of #winehq, from 9:44 to 10:09 on Wednesday August 15th: > (09:43:50 PM) Pie-rate: my brother's girlfriend's WoW install is > crashing (locking up, stops responding) randomly. she will install > windows tomorrow if it doesn

Re: #winehq admin abuse

2007-08-16 Thread Jonathan Challinger
Jan Zerebecki, I'd be happy to help, but how? I could develop some guidelines and rules for admins to follow, but then what? How would they be enforced? I have no authority to put such things in place. Its not the writing rules that's hard, its the enforcing them. Here: i'll write them now: Either

Fwd: #winehq admin abuse

2007-08-16 Thread James Keane
> (09:44:15 PM) vitamin: carretto, you have to install the game > on Wine > (09:44:34 PM) vitamin: Pie-rate, oh well I think that vitamin provided a valid answer to your question that would have solved your problem. Why are you getting so worked up that he was a little rude? He is not our employ

Re: #winehq admin abuse

2007-08-16 Thread Jan Zerebecki
[16T07:04:50] any admins of #winehq in here other than vitamin? i'd like to report abuse of admin privileges. here is the conversation, judge it however you like: http://pastebin.ca/659216 [16T07:09:29] Pie-rate, we currently have no rules in place for channel admins or for communication in gener

Re: #winehq admin abuse

2007-08-16 Thread Abel Chiaro
Tom Wickline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I gladly take the side of vitamin on this issue. I believe he is a > valuable member of the FOSS community, he has contributed many patches > to this and other OSS projects. And in HIS free time he volunteers on > the #winehq IRC channel to help people who

Re: #winehq admin abuse

2007-08-16 Thread Tom Wickline
On 8/16/07, Jonathan Challinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Vitamin is a disgrace to the OSS community. It is "RTFM and google it" > elitists like him who scare people away from switching to open source > applications. The fact that he was made an admin is inexcusable. > I gladly take the side

#winehq admin abuse

2007-08-15 Thread Jonathan Challinger
Below is a log of #winehq, from 9:44 to 10:09 on Wednesday August 15th: (09:43:50 PM) Pie-rate: my brother's girlfriend's WoW install is crashing (locking up, stops responding) randomly. she will install windows tomorrow if it doesn't get fixed. i don't like windows and i don't want to deal with it