Re: Should we expect Liberation fonts to be installed?

2010-08-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 August 2010 21:57, Scott Ritchie wrote: > This bug, for instance, prevents Photoshop from working unless there is > an Arial font installed: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9623 > Wine doesn't seem to respect system-level fontconfig aliases, so even > though Liberation Sans is install

Re: wiki slightly broken still?

2010-08-03 Thread David Gerard
[to list as well] On 3 August 2010 15:07, Dimi Paun wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 14:30 +0200, Alexandru Băluț wrote: >> How difficult would it be to use ReCaptcha? >> http://www.google.com/recaptcha > Hm, don't know. We could hack our version to support recaptcha, > but I'm not familiar with

Re: wiki slightly broken still?

2010-07-28 Thread David Gerard
On 28 July 2010 21:49, Dimi Paun wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 13:05 -0700, Dan Kegel wrote: >> Creating new wiki pages seems broken today... > Yes, due to all the spam, we've hit the ext3 limit > of subdirectories (32k). More here: >    http://www.rooftopsolutions.nl/blog/135 > I'm looking int

Re: Quick legal question... teapot related

2010-07-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 July 2010 20:20, Avery Pennarun wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:35 AM, David Gerard wrote: >> On 20 July 2010 14:52, Dan McDonald wrote: >>> On 07/20/2010 06:44 AM, Misha Koshelev wrote: >>>> If I take a publicly available teaset: >>>>

Re: Quick legal question... teapot related

2010-07-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 July 2010 14:52, Dan McDonald wrote: > On 07/20/2010 06:44 AM, Misha Koshelev wrote: >> If I take a publicly available teaset: >> http://www.sjbaker.org/teapot/teaset.tgz >> And run it through a Microsoft function: >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb205470%28v=VS.85%29.aspx >> D3D

Re: D3DXCreateTeapot

2010-07-20 Thread David Gerard
On 19 July 2010 19:54, Ian Macfarlane wrote: > Following the question as to how to implement D3DXCreateTeapot, might I > suggest making it in the form of a wine glass? > Given that is unlikely to negatively affect anything (indeed the entire > method does border on the ridiculous) I think it woul

Re: D3DXCreateTeapot and reverse engineering?

2010-07-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 July 2010 21:56, Roderick Colenbrander wrote: > Others have mentioned before that the only 'reverse' engineering > method we allow is black box reverse engineering. Technically this is > black box, but I would say that you can't use the output because of > copyright reasons. In the US, a

Re: Please remove / block user from bugzilla

2010-07-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 July 2010 03:56, James McKenzie wrote: > Does this sound doable and is it permissible?  I don't want folks walking > away because they cannot post, but if they are posting garbage it doesn't > help us. It depends also on the balance you want between (a) the possibility of a bad comment o

Re: How far to push behavioural compatibility with native?

2010-07-08 Thread David Gerard
On 8 July 2010 10:32, wrote: > What do you think? > A) Bug compatibility => Behavioural compatibility => drop existing >   code and try to mimic native's behaviour as closely as possible. > B) PAUSE and RESUME is a useful extension not present in native, keep it >   as long as no app is affected

FAQ on Nautilus needed?

2010-07-04 Thread David Gerard
http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-d3f53179ea4e0d7c90cf330e50030b1e14b63811 10.3. Nautilus can delete your home directory when you empty the trash! This affected GNOME 2.21.90-91. This is a rather old version of GNOME. Hass this problem come up in recent times? Is there any current *nix that uses GNO

The annoying FAQ of detecting Wine

2010-07-03 Thread David Gerard
Unfortunately, this is a FAQ, so I've added it. I based the answer on the last time this came around on wine-users; I'm not a developer, so please sanity-check what I wrote! Hopefully this will be useful in dealing with the actual problems people think they can solve by doing this. http://wiki.win

FAQ just updated and copyedited

2010-07-03 Thread David Gerard
Just went through the FAQ, copyediting, tweaking and bringing things into the present: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ?action=diff&rev2=347&rev1=346 Please sanity-check :-) - d.

Re: Wine on cygwin now compiles!

2010-06-27 Thread David Gerard
2010/6/27 Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) : > DirectX 10 games on Windows XP :P > Seriously though, being able to run programs that ran on Windows 9x but not > NT based Windows would be a pretty good use for Wine. Granted, most of those > programs are games, but meh. And then there's being able to run 16-bit

Re: Speed/latency issues for development in a Wine environment

2010-06-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 June 2010 20:12, Alan W. Irwin wrote: > That would be a most interesting comparison.  In computer terms 150 ms is an > absolutely enormous time that allows something like 150 million (!) > operations to occur on modern PC's.  So I would be surprised if Microsoft > Windows required that long

Re: Wine on cygwin now compiles!

2010-06-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 June 2010 20:41, Austin English wrote: > Thanks to a few recent commits by AJ (and several commits over the > past months by others), wine now builds on Cygwin. > Not everything works, of course, but still a neat exercise in recursion. And thus the fifth seal was broken! (Sixth is someon

Fwd: Call for translators

2010-05-28 Thread David Gerard
to list as well! -- Forwarded message -- From: David Gerard Date: 28 May 2010 21:07 Subject: Re: Call for translators To: Paul Vriens 2010/5/28 Paul Vriens : > I totally agree (and have already talked to Francois a few times about this) > that we need a nicer/better w

Re: Voting for own bugs not allowed?

2010-05-25 Thread David Gerard
On 25 May 2010 14:45, Rosanne DiMesio wrote: > It's definitely misleading to users. There are sporadic posts on the forum > urging people to vote for a bug, as if it made a difference, and angry posts > that bugs that have lots of votes aren't fixed yet. The one purpose I can see > it serving

Re: Voting for own bugs not allowed?

2010-05-25 Thread David Gerard
On 25 May 2010 09:27, Roderick Colenbrander wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Florian Köberle wrote: >> just someone informed me that I MUST NOT vote for my own bugs. Is there >> a reason for it? > I think it is disallowed because self promotion can make an app more > important while on

Re: The WineHQ About page needs a picture

2010-05-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 May 2010 16:03, Scott Ritchie wrote: > I was doing some housecleaning work looking at the WineHQ website, and I > realized we still have an awful lot of flat, wide text on the About > page.  This is the perfect place to collapse it into a column and fill > the right side of the screen with

On Ubuntu Lucid? Add the Wine PPA!

2010-05-10 Thread David Gerard
I updated to Lucid in early March and have only just realised I haven't been getting Wine updates. Did you forget too? Then, per the upgrades page: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa - then update and upgrade. Much nicer! - d.

Re: on most hated "OS" in the history of computing

2010-03-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 March 2010 10:37, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > Why should Debian politics be a barrier to its adoption by Wine? It's not that, it's what the actual licence text says: http://opensource.org./licenses/sybase.php Read what you give away just by using the software ... - d.

Re: on most hated "OS" in the history of computing

2010-03-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 March 2010 10:14, Saulius Krasuckas wrote: > * On Sun, 28 Mar 2010, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: >> Out of interest, why were you visiting openwatcom.org? Are you also >> looking into Win16 tests for Wine? > Kind of.  I was looking into licensing problems preventing its inclusion > in Debian.  

Re: Is there something we can do about Java?

2010-03-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 March 2010 02:31, James McKenzie wrote: > Ben Klein wrote: >> I won't tell you about the Java (esp swing) apps I've seen that hit >> NPE on *nix but work fine on Windows ... > Bingo.  Good code does not make assumptions, but checks for presence and > gives an appropriate error when whateve

Re: Intercepting GDI calls

2010-02-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 February 2010 22:08, Steven Edwards wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Ove Kaaven wrote: >> Sure it might be confusing, because that's not how the logic goes in the >> Microsoft world. Over there, the big machine acting as Terminal Server >> thing is the server, and the Remote Deskt

Re: Adding wikipedia links to appdb?

2010-02-16 Thread David Gerard
2010/2/16 Dan Kegel : > I have a prototype of how this (and other) info might be used at > http://wiki.winehq.org/GameChecklist > I think this kind of dashboard would be quite handy. Are there other game-specific encyclopedias that might be useful, for those games not notorious to make Wikipedia

Re: Intercepting GDI calls

2010-02-14 Thread David Gerard
On 12 February 2010 06:11, Jui-Hao Chiang wrote: > I am currently starting a project which tries to run a window > application on one (source) machine, and display on another > (destination) machine. Of course, the VNC or X11 forwarding technique > can achieve the same goal, but I am trying to re

Re: Building list of great demos for Wine

2010-02-11 Thread David Gerard
On 11 February 2010 22:46, Austin English wrote: > By demo I think Dan means applications/games that would make for a > good demonstration of wine's capabilities/success, for example, to > show at a LUG meeting/computer conference/etc. I just added Exact Audio Copy to the list - it's downloadab

Re: Adding wikipedia links to appdb?

2010-02-11 Thread David Gerard
[to list as well, *cough*] On 11 February 2010 11:35, Rosanne DiMesio wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:38:56 -0800 > Dan Kegel wrote: >> I often want to learn more about an app while >> I'm in the appdb, and particularly, I want to know >> whether it has a good reputation.  Wikipedia >> can ofte

Re: Understanding 64bit implications and wine64

2010-02-09 Thread David Gerard
On 9 February 2010 18:16, David Laight wrote: > A 32bit (i386) windows application binary can only run in a 32bit > Unix application [1].  In which case the Unix kernel will handle the > system call emulation and ensure that the only user-space virtual > addresses the application sees are 32bit (

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 February 2010 20:23, Gert van den Berg wrote: > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 21:40, David Gerard wrote: >> As I understand it, current Xorg does OpenGL in software on any video >> chipset it supports ... eeerrryyy ssslllooowwwlllyyy, but it does >> it. > But what abo

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 February 2010 15:40, Reece Dunn wrote: >  1/  Does this mean that OpenGL is required for all GDI calls, not > just D3D? If so, it will exclude people who don't have OpenGL support > (e.g. are using the vesa, nv, or nouveau drivers). As I understand it, current Xorg does OpenGL in software

Fwd: The (Casual) Game Support Report in Wine (Jan 2009)

2010-01-06 Thread David Gerard
whoops, sending to list as well! -- Forwarded message -- From: David Gerard Date: 2010/1/6 Subject: Re: The (Casual) Game Support Report in Wine (Jan 2009) To: Reece Dunn 2010/1/5 Reece Dunn : >  2/  the major issues appear to be in the application launchers used &

Re: Another article that makes me want Wine to run in a sandbox

2009-11-08 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/8 Dan Kegel : > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Ben Klein wrote: >> I believe the type of sandboxing being discussed includes things like >> preventing Win32 apps from breaking out into native calls using the >> infamous interrupt trick. Correct me if I'm wrong though :) > No, I was thin

Re: Another article that makes me want Wine to run in a sandbox

2009-11-08 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/8 Dan Kegel : > I expect that people will do utterly stupid things, > there's no two ways around that, it's human nature. > That being the case, I think there are still opportunities > for providing a safe computing experience without > compromising the user's convenience. > Case in point:

Re: DirectX 10 status, do simple programs work yet?

2009-10-26 Thread David Gerard
2009/10/26 Henri Verbeet : > 2009/10/26 Warren Dumortier : >> So i would like to know if there's already something running concerning >> DirectX 10? Like making very basic applications? >> The fact i would like to know that is because i'm curious what has alread >> been done! ;) > *Very* basic st

Re: Another virus-in-wine story

2009-10-25 Thread David Gerard
2009/10/25 Nicholas LaRoche : > From a usability standpoint, adding switches to wine for sandboxing is a > good thing. But it seems to only cover the APIs exported by wine. A > specially crafted win32 wine-aware malware app could leverage sys_open(1) > and sys_write(4) via int 80h to bypass this i

Re: Multiple wineservers?

2009-10-07 Thread David Gerard
2009/10/7 Nicholas LaRoche : > Is it possible to run more than 1 version of wineserver concurrently? You can run more than one instance from a given version of Wine - set the WINEPREFIX accordingly. (CrossOver has good support for this, calling it "bottles."). WINEPREFIX=/home/user/.wine2 w

Re: winehq: Fix some HTML markup

2009-09-10 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/10 Jeremy Newman : > The reason I left the XHTML markup in was eventually the goal was to convert > the entire website to XHTML. The only issue with leaving them in while still > in HTML4/Transitional is that the pages do not pass W3C validation. I am > still willing to live with non-valid

Re: Mirror Space

2009-09-02 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/2 Scott Ritchie : > I don't think it's worth bothering to set that up, as my medium term > plan is to migrate users to a real Launchpad PPA for Ubuntu 9.10.  In > 9.10, it'll actually be much easier to add PPAs (and their unique key), > so I can cut the instructions on the download page dra

Re: Wine to be used as botnet testbed

2009-07-30 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/29 Maik Schulz : > More in the linked New York Times article, Sandia National Labs plans to > have a Dell super computer run 1 million Linux instances using Wine to host > and study a botnet: > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/28/science/28comp.html?_r=1 > Does someone on the list have more d

Re: [Wine] Sandia Studies Botnets In 1M OS Digital Petri Dish

2009-07-29 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/29 Austin English : > Nothing to stop them from donating to the Wine Development fund, or > contributing back any fixes they write. Indeed, I'd be surprised if there weren't any. Anyone got in touch with them to ask? I'd also be surprised if botnet code didn't soon start detecting Wine .

Re: Cleaning up the winehq.org website

2009-07-27 Thread David Gerard
Rosanne DiMesio wrote: > You should also take a look at the "Debunking Wine Myths" page, particularly > Myth 6. Touting Office XP as an example of a "fairly new" application that > works in Wine does not inspire confidence. Sounds like that should be moved to the wiki. Documents probably belon

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-26 Thread David Gerard
2009/6/27 Austin English : > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Roderick > Colenbrander wrote: >> If they ship hacks like the DIB engine then we won't accept bug >> reports for it as it a real big hack and shouldn't be linked to from >> our website. Tweaking themes or icons is fine. Actually we just

Re: Which virtualization software should I choose

2009-06-12 Thread David Gerard
2009/6/12 Kai Blin : > On Thursday 11 June 2009 14:58:14 David Gerard wrote: >> VMWare is reputedly better - it's the oldest common VM software and >> its emulation is very seasoned, well-tested and robust. > If you discount that last I checked, VMware still couldn'

Re: Which virtualization software should I choose

2009-06-11 Thread David Gerard
2009/6/11 Austin English : > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:58 AM, David Gerard wrote: >> VirtualBox does okay for Windows and Linux, barely for FreeBSD with >> lots of caveats and not really for anything else. Notably, OpenBSD >> doesn't work and the VirtualBox developers

Re: Which virtualization software should I choose

2009-06-11 Thread David Gerard
2009/6/11 Paul Vriens : > The problem with both VirtualBox and QEMU/KVM seems to be supporting older > Windows versions as guests (< NT4). Yeah. Try QEMU without KVM on a very fast host machine, your ancient Windows should run just as well as it would on a 486 ;-) - d.

Re: Which virtualization software should I choose

2009-06-11 Thread David Gerard
2009/6/11 Michael Stefaniuc : > Paul Vriens wrote: >> I need to run several Windows versions (95 up to Vista for now) for our >> winetest and I really like the snapshot possibilities of VMware. >> Suggestions, recommendations? > I'm using KVM/Qemu with libvirt aka virt-manager. I have problems wi

Re: How is 0.0.0.0 handled in Wine?

2009-06-09 Thread David Gerard
2009/6/9 Ben Klein : > Only case that I can think of where 0.0.0.0 handling will break apps > is in lazy network programming. I am shocked, shocked to hear that there might be apps with lazy network programming! ;-p > On Windows, this would likely cause a catchable error. On Linux (at > least)

Re: Test box tagged [dr-asus]

2009-06-07 Thread David Gerard
2009/6/7 Francois Gouget : > Winetest should have an email field (optional) to make contacting the > tester easier. That and also a description field (bug 13027) so one can > give a proper description of the setup the tests are running on (e.g. > locale, running in vmware or not, etc). +1 I'd e

Re: DIB engine

2009-05-30 Thread David Gerard
2009/5/30 Dan Kegel : > If you're looking for something better specified, try finishing off > gdiplus.   That's a somewhat well defined graphics package, > and Wine's implementation has a few missing bits yet, last > I checked. OH YES PLEASE. (lots of apps missing bits of this - check over bugz

Re: [Article] WINE and the importance of application compatibility

2009-05-18 Thread David Gerard
2009/5/18 Brian Vincent : > Which leads me to my $.02: I wonder if there's a sweet spot for Wine > adoption somewhere in the middle-tier of the software application popularity > contest.  For instance, rather than going after Photoshop or Photoshop > Elements (which is still a noble goal), what ab

Re: Shuttleworth on Wine

2009-05-07 Thread David Gerard
2009/5/7 Austin English : > Though, I must say, the majority of people I see/hear using Photoshop > *are* using it as a toy/hobby, not for 'real' work, i.e., a full time > job. Yes. The biggest problem for free-as-in-freedom software - Linux and GIMP, and to some extent Wine - is that Windows an

Re: Wine on Solaris 10 and SXCE

2009-05-06 Thread David Gerard
2009/5/6 Vit Hrachovy : > *rumour* > IMO one of technical barriers preventing Wine in /release repo could be >  that Wine doesn't compile with SunStudio compiler, only with gcc. > *eof rumour* Obviously that sort of thing consititutes a set of bugs that should be reported and/or fixed by those i

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-18 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/18 Scott Ritchie : > Thank you Dan, you reminded me to forward my blog post to the list ;) I'm not sure how to put this into your simulation as described, but there's another effect that's important: the good-enough-to-be-beta effect. I'd say there was a significant upturn in Wine's qual

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-17 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/17 Scott Ritchie : > http://yokozar.org/blog/content/icons/wine.svg Oh, that's nice! Pity it's not tilted - I think of the Wine logo as being tilted. I assume there's something in the Tango guidelines against that? - d.

Re: NTFS filesystem features -> WONTFIX?

2009-04-16 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/16 Francois Gouget : > On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Ben Klein wrote: >> But his bug raises an interesting issue. If an application has sanity >> checks on FAT32 vs NTFS (e.g., I need a 4GB file ... I've detected no >> NTFS therefore it's FAT32 which doesn't support more than 2GB files), > Then the

Re: do ERR messages imply bugs?

2009-04-12 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/12 James McKenzie : > I understand your concern.  I like bug reports, I just don't like bug > reports in a vacuum.  If we can get some of the functionality of an > automatic Bugzilla to Applications Database linker in place this would > make it much easier to avoid (not prevent) duplicate r

Re: do ERR messages imply bugs?

2009-04-12 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/12 James McKenzie : > Bugzilla should request an application name and AppDB entry number. Demanding an appID number will certainly keep the bug reports down, though at the expense of bug reporting. I can't see making bug reports arbitrarily more difficult as a good way for devs to get an

Re: User forum thread: "how can we improve WINE?"

2009-04-06 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/5 Warren Dumortier : > Here's what i set as message in the configuration window in my patch: > Only change these settings if you know what you're doing. Changing > these values may result in unexpected behaviors and unstability. Also include a "revert to default" button? May be worth see

User forum thread: "how can we improve WINE?"

2009-04-05 Thread David Gerard
http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=4403 Some highly impractical ideas, but certainly having the users throw ideas around should inspire wine-devel (and Codeweavers) :-) - d.

Re: Windows 7

2009-04-03 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/3 Austin English : > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Stefan Dösinger > wrote: >> Am Donnerstag, 2. April 2009 13:07:18 schrieb Fred .: >>> Yeah, I know. >>> It is on the way though. It will be released. >>> So I would like to be able to choose Windows 7. >> Feel free to send a patch ;-) >

Re: 16bit code generation

2009-03-29 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/28 Austin English : > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:34 PM, King InuYasha wrote: >> What is wrong with OpenWatcom? It is an open source development toolchain, >> with experimental linux binaries, yes, but they do work the last time I >> checked (which was when 1.8 release came out). > It's not

Fwd: How to "bottle" applications for distribution with wine?

2009-03-29 Thread David Gerard
to list as well -- Forwarded message -- From: David Gerard Date: 2009/3/29 Subject: Re: How to "bottle" applications for distribution with wine? To: Ben Klein 2009/3/29 Ben Klein : > He's asking if it's possible to bundle a minimal Wine with some

iphlpapi patch - what does it need?

2009-03-24 Thread David Gerard
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14574 has a patch for iphlpapi that stubs GetAdaptersAddresses(). Just this stub is enough to get Safari 4 working. Patch is: http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=19704 http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=19705 Do these need anything done before the

Re: Single login for Wine sites?

2009-03-22 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/22 Austin English : > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:18 AM, David Gerard wrote: >> What's standing in the way of unified login for the various Wine sites >> (appdb, wiki, Bugzilla)? > Someone to do the work to combine the logins and implement the infrastructure. Cool,

Single login for Wine sites?

2009-03-22 Thread David Gerard
What's standing in the way of unified login for the various Wine sites (appdb, wiki, Bugzilla)? Is there anyone running any of these sites who doesn't consider single unified login a good idea? - d.

Re: wine web pages update

2009-03-15 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/15 Ben Klein : > 2009/3/16 Vít Hrachový : >> Apostolos Syropoulos wrote: >>> For example, the first page says "Run Windows Applications on Linux, BSD >>> and MacOS". >>> OK Solaris is a commercial product but so is MacOS! Since I do release >>> binary packages >>> of wine for both Solaris a

Re: How to enable font anti-aliasing in Wine?

2009-03-15 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/15 Roderick Colenbrander : > What is so special about Wine why anti-aliasing isn't working for most users? > (it could be a regression) In Stefan his case it started working after > installing a Windows tahoma.ttf. What is so special about this font? A modern > Linux system has dozens or

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/13 John Klehm : > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> Because the ideal way to deal with more malicious users without >> hampering the good users is to give community members the power to do >> the work, so it doesn't fall to just Dimi. >

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/13 John Klehm : > http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnUserHandling > Section "Disable a user account" > The account is still there but can't post which would probably be good > enough till dimi comes to zap it. > Seems there is no way to delete a user account from the web gui > without a custom p

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/13 Dimi Paun : > On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 00:59 +0800, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: >> or give a way to do that for us poor people who regularly brushes >> spam out of the Wine wiki. > I have no problem with that if if can be done. > Can someone look it up what would it take to make > Moin do that

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/13 Dmitry Timoshkov : > http://wiki.winehq.org/RecentChanges has all the details. Please > consider at least removing the spammers' accounts listed there, > or give a way to do that for us poor people who regularly brushes > spam out of the Wine wiki. Yes, the usual remedy in this situati

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/13 Dimi Paun : > On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 01:59 +1100, Ben Klein wrote: >> Of course, complicated captchas don't keep out manually created spam >> accounts, only bots. > And I'll like to see some data that shows that we have a > significant portion of the spammers are bots before we > even st

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/12 Dmitry Timoshkov : > Spammers do "contribute" a lot lately to the Wine wiki, that's why this > thread has appeared in the first place. What are the numbers? Any action should be based on evidence. > If a user has found a typo, probably he/she is aware of bugzilla or irc. Or you cou

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-12 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/12 Dmitry Timoshkov : > Another thing that would probably help to get rid of spammers' accounts > is to (regularly) delete all user accounts without a personal page. Evidence-based actions would probably be a good idea. What are the actual numbers? - d.

Re: Wine on Windows - wiki notes

2009-03-11 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/11 Steven Edwards : > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 5:53 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> I thought Cygwin had long had sendmsg/recvmsg: > According to Microsofts documentation (thanks Thunderbird) > Vista/Windows Server 2008 and the Subsystem for Unix applications is > supposed

Re: Wiki challenge question on user account creation

2009-03-11 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/11 Ben Klein : > 2009/3/12 David Gerard : >> Reasons for picking Moin are typically: >> Reasons for picking MediaWiki are typically: > Moin is sounding better to me so far. Less overhead is good. > Generally, people pick a Wiki that Just Works (TM). Unfortunately, &

Re: Wine on Windows - wiki notes

2009-03-11 Thread David Gerard
[reviving oldish thread] 2008/12/31 Steven Edwards : > I've poked at it off and on over the years Its been my experience > building on Cygwin was actually less trouble. Cygwin and SFU/Internix > both require the same basic lowlevel magic. Proper signal handling, > getting the thread management ri

Fwd: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-11 Thread David Gerard
to list as well -- Forwarded message -- From: David Gerard Date: 2009/3/11 Subject: Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki To: Dimi Paun 2009/3/11 Dimi Paun : > On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 08:02 -0600, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: >> Anyone? Also how about blockin

Re: Wiki challenge question on user account creation

2009-03-11 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/11 Ben Klein : > Does what we have now work? Yes. Is there any reason why we should > consider moving from Moin to some other Wiki system? Your turn to > answer. At work, I use a ridiculous range of wiki engines. I've used Moin and MediaWiki most heavily. Reasons for picking Moin are typ

Re: Wiki challenge question on user account creation

2009-03-11 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/11 King InuYasha : > Why are we using Moin anyways? I know Fedora used to use Moin and they moved > off of it for their wiki, and I honestly think that perhaps WineHQ needs to > as well. As someone who's done the Moin->MediaWiki thing, I heartily disrecommend it if avoidable: http://www.

Re: Wiki challenge question on user account creation

2009-03-11 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/5 King InuYasha : > A wiki shouldn't have users creating accounts every day, that is a bad > indicator. It is difficult to understand the thinking behind such a statement unless you are literally aiming to close a project to outside participation. - d.

Re: Fwd: [Wine] Re: The pros and cons of a wiki AppDB

2009-03-08 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/9 Ben Klein : > 2009/3/9 David Gerard : >> 2009/3/8 James Mckenzie : >>> If we move to an open Wiki, be prepared to be very busy.  I've seen >>> spambots get past most, if not all, of the verification systems and bomb >>> away. >> I come

Fwd: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread David Gerard
to list as well -- Forwarded message -- From: David Gerard Date: 2009/3/8 Subject: Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms? To: Dan Kegel 2009/3/8 Dan Kegel : > For graphics cards: > 1st tier: Nvidia 8400 or higher > 2nd tier: <

Re: Fwd: [Wine] Re: The pros and cons of a wiki AppDB

2009-03-08 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/8 James Mckenzie : > David Gerard wrote on March 8th: >>2009/3/8 James Mckenzie : >>> Would you be willing to clean out the ash and trash that will show up with >>> an open Wiki? >>I already said I would, yes - that the only reason for not just &

Re: Fwd: [Wine] Re: The pros and cons of a wiki AppDB

2009-03-08 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/8 James Mckenzie : > Would you be willing to clean out the ash and trash that will show up with an > open Wiki? I already said I would, yes - that the only reason for not just starting one is to avoid massive duplication of effort. > I don't have the time to do this and it REALLY sound

Fwd: [Wine] Re: The pros and cons of a wiki AppDB

2009-03-08 Thread David Gerard
The current appdb system doesn't actually work. Example below. -- Forwarded message -- From: fcmartins Date: 2009/3/8 Subject: [Wine] Re: The pros and cons of a wiki AppDB To: wine-us...@winehq.org Well, I can certainly confirm there is a barrier for drive by submissions. As a

Re: [Wine] The pros and cons of a wiki AppDB

2009-03-08 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/7 IneedAname : > On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 20:10:13 + > David Gerard wrote: >> Yep. That's why a wiki is nice. If you open it up to everyone to >> contribute, you'll get bad stuff but you'll get good stuff you just >> wouldn't get otherwise. It&#

Re: [PATCH] [RFC] Make drive C always a "Local disk"

2009-03-07 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/8 King InuYasha : > Drive C: is not necessarily the truly central drive. I have seen Windows > installs that installed on D: and have C: as a permanently mounted network > share. To assume that drive C: is always what it is... is blasphemy. > However, Wine does make this assumption, and pro

The pros and cons of a wiki AppDB

2009-03-07 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/7 Rosanne DiMesio : > I can think of one possible benefit. There are a lot of apps without > maintainers, and there might be users of those apps who would be willing take > a few minutes to post bits of useful information in a wiki, but don't want > the responsibility of being a maintain

Whither AppDB? (was: Re: AppDB entries are being delete without contacting maintainer by)

2009-03-07 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/7 Ben Klein : > A wiki is likely to be highly unsuccessful for AppDB when the focus is > on test data. I would have thought the focus would be on being useful to users. > Regarding the changelog/history, it'd even be possible to use git to > manage AppDB entries. It's perfectly possible

Re: AppDB entries are being delete without contacting maintainer by Rozanne

2009-03-06 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/6 Austin English : > Codeweavers has their own AppDB type system: > http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/ That's no reason not to mention them, if the point is to help the reader. - d.

Re: AppDB entries are being delete without contacting maintainer by Rozanne

2009-03-06 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/6 Rosanne DiMesio : > I have not been deleting entries per se; I have on occasion merged duplicate > entries using "Move child objects." However, I was unaware until now that not > everything in the merged entry was being transferred when I did this. I > apologize for that; I did not rea

Re: wine shirts

2009-03-02 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/2 Gert van den Berg : > "Wine cures your Windows hangover!" :) That's what I didn't like about that drunk penguin picture ... "Use Wine in moderation." - d.

Re: Crashes on lack of times.ttf (bug 9623) and using Liberation Serif instead

2009-03-02 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/2 Remco : > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:06 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> The only problem I can see is that the Liberation fonts are GPL (plus >> font). Would including the font with the Wine download be possible >> without making Wine entirely GPL? > Yes, I would thi

Crashes on lack of times.ttf (bug 9623) and using Liberation Serif instead

2009-03-02 Thread David Gerard
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9623 Various versions of Photoshop, and now Safari 4, insist on Times New Roman being present or they crash on startup. ("winetricks corefonts" works around it.) Packaging Liberation Serif with Wine and putting a registry key to substitute Times New Roman wi

Re: winetricks does not reset service pack number correctly

2009-03-01 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/1 Fabian Köster : >> Winetricks is not part of Wine. All bugs for it should be reported to: >> http://code.google.com/p/winezeug/issues/list > Citing http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks: > "Winetricks has a bug tracking system at > http://code.google.com/p/winezeug/issues/list though sending

Wine's malware compatibility: good

2009-02-24 Thread David Gerard
http://www.trustedsource.org/blog/186/Running-Windows-Malware-in-Linux With apps like ZeroWine, we can I think expect to see Windows binaries that try int 0x80 calls just because they might be useful and a Linux box will make a much more robust host. - d.

Re: rpcrt4: Check for null endpoint in RpcServerUseProtseqEpExW

2009-02-24 Thread David Gerard
2009/2/22 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton : > come on folks, pick up the ball.  acknowledge that you're aware that > there is an authoritative source of information on this > horrendously-complex topic, in the form of nothing less than a fully > functioning reference implementation. I don't think a

Re: Simple but awesome demos of Wine?

2009-02-24 Thread David Gerard
2009/2/24 Ben Klein : > 2009/2/24 Vit Hrachovy : >> Mmmm. According to AppDB Runescape is said to work well in Wine ;) >> That's another layer-within-layer - Runespace is an MMORPG written in >> JAVA/OpenGL as browser-embedded application. > Sounds like something that could work equally well nati

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