Re: Is there something we can do about Java?

2010-03-10 Thread James McKenzie
David Gerard wrote: [Trim monster activated to shorten message to relative portions.] > We are of course talking about programming on Windows ... > The question is not "is it broken?" The question is "are there real > apps that work on Windows, for whatever value of 'works,' that don't > work in W

Re: measuring audio latency?

2010-03-10 Thread Dan Kegel
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Francois Gouget wrote: >> Yes, absolutely, but it'd be good to make this measurement easy >> to repeat by anybody interested.  To do that, let's just loop the >> audio output back into the audio input.  The user will have to >> provide a loopback cable > > Won't th

Re: measuring audio latency?

2010-03-10 Thread Francois Gouget
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Dan Kegel wrote: [...] > Yes, absolutely, but it'd be good to make this measurement easy > to repeat by anybody interested. To do that, let's just loop the > audio output back into the audio input. The user will have to > provide a loopback cable Won't the DirectSound capture

Re: custom fake dll

2010-03-10 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Before answering your questions, let me get some definitions for you: - Builtin dll is a Wine's .dll.so file which is a standard ELF shared library that can be loaded by libc. It contains code as well as some extra Wine specific information like resources - Native dll is a Windows PE library that c

Re: measuring audio latency?

2010-03-10 Thread Dan Kegel
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Reece Dunn wrote: Yes, absolutely, but it'd be good to make this measurement easy to repeat by anybody interested.  To do that, let's just loop the audio output back into the audio input.  The user will have to provide a loopback cable (or, wor

Re: Is there something we can do about Java?

2010-03-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 March 2010 02:31, James McKenzie wrote: > Ben Klein wrote: >> I won't tell you about the Java (esp swing) apps I've seen that hit >> NPE on *nix but work fine on Windows ... > Bingo.  Good code does not make assumptions, but checks for presence and > gives an appropriate error when whateve

Re: measuring audio latency?

2010-03-10 Thread Reece Dunn
On 9 March 2010 23:48, Ben Klein wrote: > On 10 March 2010 10:01, Avery Pennarun wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Dan Kegel wrote: >>> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Roderick Colenbrander >>> wrote: I might be able to measure it using my oscilloscope. Somehow I would need to

custom fake dll

2010-03-10 Thread Ilya Basin
Hi. Is it possible to make a custom dll that wraps some native linux API? Will a newer version of Wine be able to load a fake dll built for older release? Is it necessary to create a new directory under dlls/ and update configure scripts? Or I can use Wine's Makefile to build in a separate directo