Re: Usable Wine interface

2008-02-17 Thread Christoph Frick
On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 03:30:30PM +0800, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > What's the purpose of running 3 full screen games simultaneously? > Perhaps you have to run them with different wine prefixes then. i run all my games in a desktop as big as the root window. this is a must for the game Grand Prix

Re: Usable Wine interface

2008-02-17 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Edward Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would very much like to see a --spawn-new trigger that can be added > to a command to start a new virtual desktop. > > At the moment my default setting is a virtual desktop for everything > and I believe this is the current wine default. No, it is n

Re: Usable Wine interface

2008-02-17 Thread Edward Savage
I would very much like to see a --spawn-new trigger that can be added to a command to start a new virtual desktop. At the moment my default setting is a virtual desktop for everything and I believe this is the current wine default. My issue is that every application comes into that virtual deskto

Re: iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread Edward Savage
Assuming syncing is the primary push behind this (or ends up being done either way) I support iTunes being supports. Though if people go to a lot of effort on this and those features aren't implemented I would consider this a waste of time. For the person who does fix ipod syncing I thank you ver

Re: How should we treat users on bugzilla?

2008-02-17 Thread Dan Kegel
Tlarhices wrote: > In my opinion the main problem is that the bug tracker is too easy to > find and the forum too hard to find. The appdb is our forum, and it's quite easy to find. I do agree it could use some interface improvements. For instance, I think the front page is too crowded. Also, the

re: iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread Dan Kegel
E. Savage wrote: > Maarten why not focus on supporting applications that > don't have viable open source solutions first? iTunes doesn't have any alternatives for these functions: - purchasing songs from iTunes Store - activating iPhone - new ipod/iPhone syncing Anybody who buys an iPhone and can

Winnowing the 1.0 bug list

2008-02-17 Thread Dan Kegel
We now have about 100 bugs nominated for fixing in 1.0. Thanks to everybody who nominated bugs. Now it's time to winnow the list a bit. 1.0 bugs should be 'important' somehow, easy to reproduce, and have some chance of actually being fixed by, say, summer. The better understood a bug is, the more

Re: iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread James Hawkins
On Feb 17, 2008 11:39 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi James, > > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Feb 17, 2008 11:16 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi James, > > > > > > > > > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > O

Re: iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread Maarten Lankhorst
Hi James, 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Feb 17, 2008 11:16 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi James, > > > > > > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 2008/2/17, J

Re: iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread Edward Savage
Maarten why not focus on supporting applications that don't have viable open source solutions first? I can think of hundreds. The only thing iTunes will add, with full support, is ipod syncing (that isn't useless). Or should we avoid that debate? On Feb 18, 2008 3:18 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <[EMAI

Re: iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread James Hawkins
On Feb 17, 2008 11:16 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi James, > > > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM

Re: iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread Maarten Lankhorst
Hi Edward, 2008/2/17, Edward Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Why are we interested in iTunes? There seem to be plenty of alternatives > available. > > Or are we talking about ipod compatibility specifically, as there are no > viable alternatives to iTunes for syncing. Because this is a project that

Re: iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread Edward Savage
Why are we interested in iTunes? There seem to be plenty of alternatives available. Or are we talking about ipod compatibility specifically, as there are no viable alternatives to iTunes for syncing. Edward On Feb 18, 2008 3:11 PM, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 17, 2008 11:0

Re: iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread Maarten Lankhorst
Hi James, 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi Christopher, > > > > > > > >

Re: iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread James Hawkins
On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Christopher, > > > > > > Christopher Harvey wrote: > > > > What needs to get done for iTunes to

Re: iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread Maarten Lankhorst
2008/2/17, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Christopher, > > > > Christopher Harvey wrote: > > > What needs to get done for iTunes to work? > > > > v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and

Re: How should we treat users on bugzilla?

2008-02-17 Thread James McKenzie
Dan Kegel wrote: > I've been seeing a lot of bugs closed as INVALID > when a poor user didn't file the bug perfectly. > IMHO this leads to Wine having a user-hostile reputation. > > Case in point: > http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11625 > > What can we do to reduce this kind of behavior? > M

Re: How should we treat users on bugzilla?

2008-02-17 Thread Tlarhices
I think Wine is already considered has user-hostile. In my opinion the main problem is that the bug tracker is too easy to find and the forum too hard to find. Also the forum could be a place to ask question without having to call it a bug but is only a simple discussion channel and totally inco

Re: [PATCH] Environment variable to specify X11 window for desktop

2008-02-17 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Timothy Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That kind of hack has nothing to do with Wine desktop window if what it >> targets is just an application window. > Um. How about if the scope of the patch is repharsed as "embedding the > Wine desktop inside an X11 window"? Perhaps the most easy way

Re: iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread Juan Lang
Hi Christopher, > What needs to get done for iTunes to work? As James said, it's a broad question. Scan bugs.winehq.org for logged bugs about iTunes. Lots doesn't work, depending on which version of iTunes you're interested in running. Also check the appdb--this probably isn't the right forum

Re: iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread James Hawkins
On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Christopher, > > Christopher Harvey wrote: > > What needs to get done for iTunes to work? > > v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and > find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour se

Re: Usable Wine interface

2008-02-17 Thread Remco
- Original Message > From: Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: wine-devel@winehq.org > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:16:17 AM > Subject: Re: Usable Wine interface > > Remco wrote: > > I'd like to add a feature-request (should this go somewhereelse?) > Yes, bugzilla -> enhanceme

Re: [PATCH] Environment variable to specify X11 window for desktop

2008-02-17 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Timothy Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm struggling to imagine a case where the behaviour you've implemented is useful. >>> I'm actually using this code as the basis of a PowerPoint plugin >>> under Linux. >> I little bit more information won't hurt. For instance why your plugin >>

Re: iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread Maarten Lankhorst
Hi Christopher, Christopher Harvey wrote: > What needs to get done for iTunes to work? v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' registry stuff properly. I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches th

How should we treat users on bugzilla?

2008-02-17 Thread Dan Kegel
I've been seeing a lot of bugs closed as INVALID when a poor user didn't file the bug perfectly. IMHO this leads to Wine having a user-hostile reputation. Case in point: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11625 What can we do to reduce this kind of behavior? Maybe we should have a "three warn

Re: iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread James Hawkins
On Feb 17, 2008 9:15 PM, Christopher Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What needs to get done for iTunes to work? > 80% of bug fixing development is figuring out the answer to that question. If we knew all that was needed, it wouldn't take that long to fix. I'm not really sure what your motiva

Re: appdb feature request: hide the ugly urls

2008-02-17 Thread Dan Kegel
On Feb 17, 2008 5:33 PM, Remco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think searching for literally all URLs is going to put > a lot of strain on the server. Not if it's just a hash table lookup. Note how Google is blindingly fast even though every query is a search. It's all due to the magic of hash tab

Re: Usable Wine interface

2008-02-17 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Remco wrote: > I'd like to add a feature-request (should this go somewhereelse?) Yes, bugzilla -> enhancement. Vitaliy.

iTunes

2008-02-17 Thread Christopher Harvey
What needs to get done for iTunes to work?

Re: Next big app(s) to try?

2008-02-17 Thread Dan Kegel
On Feb 17, 2008 5:36 PM, Remco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd say, of the work-related apps, definitely MS Office 2007 > (especially Outlook) and Internet Explorer 6 and 7. My assumption has been that Codeweavers is busily working on MS Office etc. aready. > Of the fun-related apps, a few press

Re: Usable Wine interface

2008-02-17 Thread Chris Robinson
On Sunday 17 February 2008 05:35:46 pm Remco wrote: > I'd like to add a feature-request (should this go somewhereelse?). What > about making a Wine GUI to behave more like emulators likeVirtualBox. It's > extremely hard right now to get Wine in desktop mode. winecfg->Graphics->Emulate a virtual de

Re: Next big app(s) to try?

2008-02-17 Thread Remco
I'd say, of the work-related apps, definitely MS Office 2007 (especially Outlook) and Internet Explorer 6 and 7. IE7 needs a lot of work still. IE6 doesn't break on any Wine bugs AFAIK, but needs a special environment to install correctly. A little Wine magic might help here. IE is one of the fe

Usable Wine interface

2008-02-17 Thread Remco
I'd like to add a feature-request (should this go somewhereelse?). What about making a Wine GUI to behave more like emulators likeVirtualBox. It's extremely hard right now to get Wine in desktop mode.It would be nice if you could start Wine as an application, which opensup a window like this: h

Re: appdb feature request: hide the ugly urls

2008-02-17 Thread Remco
> http://appdb.winehq.org/app/command-conquer-3-tiberium-wars/ > doesn't sound too bad, actually. And if somebody types in > an ambiguous URL, like > http://appdb.winehq.org/app/command-conquer > they should get a list of matching apps. So this is kind of > like a search function rather than a un

Re: appdb feature request: hide the ugly urls

2008-02-17 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Vitaliy wrote: > Vitaliy Margolen wrote: >> Dan Kegel wrote: >>> On Feb 17, 2008 3:19 PM, Remco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adobe Premiere is currently at > http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=128 > but it'd be so slick to see instead > http://appdb.win

Re: appdb feature request: hide the ugly urls

2008-02-17 Thread Dan Kegel
On Feb 17, 2008 4:13 PM, Dan Kegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> People need to be able to guess the URL. >> We should be able to look up 'adobe-premiere' and get '128'. >> So maybe http://appdb.winehq.org/app/adobe-premiere.html > > I don't think that would work all that well. > As-is AppDB having

Re: appdb feature request: hide the ugly urls

2008-02-17 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Dan Kegel wrote: > On Feb 17, 2008 3:19 PM, Remco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Adobe Premiere is currently at >>> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=128 >>> but it'd be so slick to see instead >>> http://appdb.winehq.org/adobe/premiere >> That's relatively easy to do

Re: appdb feature request: hide the ugly urls

2008-02-17 Thread Dan Kegel
On Feb 17, 2008 3:19 PM, Remco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Adobe Premiere is currently at > > http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=128 > > but it'd be so slick to see instead > > http://appdb.winehq.org/adobe/premiere > > That's relatively easy to do with mod_rewrite.

Re: appdb feature request: hide the ugly urls

2008-02-17 Thread Remco
- Original Message > From: Dan Kegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: wine-devel > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:55:06 PM > Subject: appdb feature request: hide the ugly urls > > How hard would it be for the appdb to support > more readable URLs for vendors and applications? e.g. > Adobe P

Re: [PATCH] Environment variable to specify X11 window for desktop

2008-02-17 Thread Detlef Riekenberg
On Fr, 2008-02-15 at 15:46 +, Robert Shearman wrote: > Timothy Lee wrote: > > The attached patch allows the WINE desktop to be embedded within an > > existing X11 window, and is similar to the windowed mode in WINE. > I'm struggling to imagine a case where the behaviour you've implemented >

Re: Next big app(s) to try?

2008-02-17 Thread denis bonnenfant
Another major application that may be interesting to support is SolidWorks. http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=8983 Why ? - It's one of the most popular CAD application for mechanical design and engineering, and surely the most used for educationnal purposes. Although t

Re: dlls/shell32/pidl.c -- adjust to unsignedness of a type

2008-02-17 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008, Alexandre Julliard wrote: > The test should probably be removed completely since there's already a > default for it in the switch() that follows. I was thinking of this, but wanted to go for the smaller patch initially, but your wish is my command ;-). Updated patch below.

programs: add winestartfile for starting files from the unix path (for file managers)

2008-02-17 Thread Vincent Povirk
This is now attempt 4, not that anyone's counting. Adding winelib programs is a bit involved, and I imagine I've screwed something up along the way. If you know how to add them properly, please say something, even if it's to tell me I did it right. This patch adds a winelib program called winesta

Re: Next big app(s) to try?

2008-02-17 Thread Dan Kegel
Edward Savage wrote: > CS3 photoshop, illustrator, flash, and aftereffects so I can drag my > girlfriend to linux. OK, just for you I created http://wiki.winehq.org/AdobeAfterEffects with download links, etc. There's one common bug stopping all CS3 installs, I think, but in my experience bugs in

Re: include: Add support for executing finally code for exceptions without using a separate function.

2008-02-17 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Robert Shearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The first goal is accomplished by changing the previous two-state > variable of __first into a three-state variable where the third state > is the state in which the finally code is executed in the normal > case. The second goal is accomplished by call

Re: [6/6] wined3d: take alpha from device palette entry for d3d 8 and later

2008-02-17 Thread Alexander Dorofeyev
Yes, I think so too, personally I've the impression that for dx <= 7 apps RGB from device palette shouldn't be copied, and maybe the only thing to do in such cases is storing palette index in alpha, in case the app will want to lock the surface. But, this is a thing for another patch. At least o

Re: [1/6] ddraw: fix executebuffer branching with non-zero offset

2008-02-17 Thread Stefan Dösinger
Am Montag, 18. Februar 2008 02:36:35 schrieb Alexander Dorofeyev: > Fixes a crash in Moto Racer 2. > --- > dlls/ddraw/executebuffer.c | 10 -- > 1 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) The patches look good to me signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [6/6] wined3d: take alpha from device palette entry for d3d 8 and later

2008-02-17 Thread Stefan Dösinger
Am Montag, 18. Februar 2008 02:37:00 schrieb Alexander Dorofeyev: >/*can ddraw and d3d < 8 surfaces use device's palette (d3d >= 8 feature)?*/ No, they can't, there is no API to access them signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Next big app(s) to try?

2008-02-17 Thread Nemes Ioan Sorin
Can I add here Corel Draw suite ? I've managed to start and work with Corel Draw 12 (with Wine Doors I add VB common controls) but after wine 0.9.45 Corel stop working. Also Corel Draw is widely used in DTP industry. Finally imagine AVID* working better and faster under WINE, ..stop I walk in

Re: dlls/msi/streams.c type fixes

2008-02-17 Thread James Hawkins
On Feb 17, 2008 6:23 AM, Gerald Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This patch contains one or two items from my November patch the core > of which was independently recreated by Marcus and accepted and one > or two additional changes. It addresses the following warnings: > > streams.c: In func

appdb feature request: hide the ugly urls

2008-02-17 Thread Dan Kegel
How hard would it be for the appdb to support more readable URLs for vendors and applications? e.g. Adobe Premiere is currently at http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=128 but it'd be so slick to see instead http://appdb.winehq.org/adobe/premiere Believe it or not, tha

bugzilla on the fritz again

2008-02-17 Thread Dan Kegel
Just started getting this: Software error: Can't connect to the database. Error: Too many connections Is your database installed and up and running? Do you have the correct username and password selected in localconfig?

Re: dlls/msi/streams.c -- simplify and constify

2008-02-17 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
For the record, while I don't think I saw a response to this, the issue itself was now fixed with basically the same patch submitted by Marcusso we can remove this from our radars. Thanks for trying again, Marcus! :-) Gerald On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > Good observation, though co

Re: Next big app(s) to try?

2008-02-17 Thread Dan Kegel
On Feb 17, 2008 4:02 AM, L. Rahyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about support for Autodesk products (such as AutoCAD and 3ds > max)? As > far as I know there is two group of problems preventing them from working: > copy-protection related and .NET related. ... > However for no

Re: Next big app(s) to try?

2008-02-17 Thread Edward Savage
CS3 photoshop, illustrator, flash, and aftereffects so I can drag my girlfriend to linux. Thanks :D (Sorry for the dupe Jaap, hit the wrong reply button.) On Feb 17, 2008 10:07 PM, Jaap Stolk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 17, 2008 11:57 AM, Pau Garcia i Quiles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:

Re: Next big app(s) to try?

2008-02-17 Thread Jaap Stolk
On Feb 17, 2008 11:57 AM, Pau Garcia i Quiles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > AutoCAD, please > I spend a lot of time trying to get autocad (2004) to run on Wine. There where some small problems like registry things and with Internet Explorer dependencies, but those where easy to solve. The big pro

Re: Next big app(s) to try?

2008-02-17 Thread L. Rahyen
On Sunday February 17 2008 09:15:24 Dan Kegel wrote: > Now that Adobe Photoshop CS2 is running kind of > well (there are bugs that need fixing, but I'm trying > to look ahead a bit), what big app(s) are worth focusing on next? > > Using http://wiki.winehq.org/LinuxApplicatonRequestSurvey, > skippin

Re: Autoplay considered harmful

2008-02-17 Thread leszek
Le samedi 16 février 2008 à 20:07 -0500, Steven Edwards a écrit : > > Ideally the freedesktop should define a spec (which they may already > do as part of HAL) that we should be able to interface with. There > should be a way to have the auto insert event detect a autorun.inf and > prompt the use

Re: Next big app(s) to try?

2008-02-17 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
Quoting Dan Kegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Now that Adobe Photoshop CS2 is running kind of > well (there are bugs that need fixing, but I'm trying > to look ahead a bit), what big app(s) are worth focusing on next? > > Using http://wiki.winehq.org/LinuxApplicatonRequestSurvey, > skipping Photoshop (

Re: [1/16] msxml3: Support functions for typelib

2008-02-17 Thread Alistair Leslie-Hughes
"Alexandre Julliard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Alistair Leslie-Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> +*typeinfo = typeinfos[tid]; >> +return S_OK; > > You should increment the ref count when you are returning a pointer, > even if it's also stored in a

Next big app(s) to try?

2008-02-17 Thread Dan Kegel
Now that Adobe Photoshop CS2 is running kind of well (there are bugs that need fixing, but I'm trying to look ahead a bit), what big app(s) are worth focusing on next? Using http://wiki.winehq.org/LinuxApplicatonRequestSurvey, skipping Photoshop (which we should continue to fix up) and the ones th