Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-25 Thread Troy Rollo
As I speculated, the reason the PPC64 Patchwork example was so out of date was that the PPC64 list had been folded into the vanilla PPC list, however the big problem right now is that Patchwork is "extra work" for maintainers, so right now they don't want to use it. It ought to go without sayin

Re: Governance revisited (Wineconf report)

2006-09-25 Thread Vincent Povirk
I don't have any real reason to have a say in this (as someone who hasn't successfully made any changes to the wine tree, for which I blame my inability to contribute anything that belongs there rather than any problems with the current system), but I was just thinking that "Patch management syste

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread Tom Wickline
On 9/25/06, jimtabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Every Wine developer needs to read this, http://www.codeweavers.com/services/ and http://www.codeweavers.com/services/wine . What do these two pages have to do with Wine's Governance ? It is your job to provide support for this product, I spen

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"jimtabor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First, he doesn't represent Codeweavers on the wine-devel mailing > list. Second, there's nothing unprofessional about his actions. > Missed my point! If his address has "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", than yes, that person does represent that organization. Then

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread jimtabor
Wow, just like that! James Hawkins wrote: >> It is shocking to most FOSS code writers that maybe this is a real, >> truly, paid for project. "No! It can not be! I contribute to someones >> profit? NOO~~~!". > The above is a famous quote I read from Linux Journal magazine. > > I am well a

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread James Hawkins
On 9/25/06, jimtabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: James Hawkins wrote: > On 9/25/06, jimtabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Every Wine developer needs to read this, >> http://www.codeweavers.com/services/ and >> http://www.codeweavers.com/services/wine . >> > > I'm a Wine developer, a

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread jimtabor
James Hawkins wrote: > On 9/25/06, jimtabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Every Wine developer needs to read this, >> http://www.codeweavers.com/services/ and >> http://www.codeweavers.com/services/wine . >> > > I'm a Wine developer, and I don't work for codeweavers. Why should I > read that

WineD3D: glBlend* fixes

2006-09-25 Thread Roland Scheidegger
> Roderick, Mesa calls the extension "GL_EXT_blend_minmax", and so does > the spec. I don't know what exactly uses the min_max form. Is this a > typo? Apart from the blend_minmax typo, it appears to be me this patch has some other problems. >> This patch changes the detection extension detectio

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread James Hawkins
On 9/25/06, jimtabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Every Wine developer needs to read this, http://www.codeweavers.com/services/ and http://www.codeweavers.com/services/wine . I'm a Wine developer, and I don't work for codeweavers. Why should I read that? It is your job to provide support for

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread Troy Rollo
On Monday 25 September 2006 23:05, Robert Lunnon wrote: > On Saturday 23 September 2006 16:42, Mike McCormack wrote: > > Since you know better, how about maintaining your own Wine tree and > > showing us how it's done? > > Self evidently thats what I have to do until some core functionality > patch

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread jimtabor
Hi, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > > > How many projects have you ever participated in? Every developers' > mailing list > of an open source I personally participated in *doesn't guarantee* not > only patch > acceptance, but even a reply with explanations why the patch has been > silently > dropped, an

Re: Tips for vim users

2006-09-25 Thread Troy Rollo
On Monday 25 September 2006 19:47, n0dalus wrote: > At the bottom of my ~/.vimrc (create it if it doesn't exist): > if !exists("loaded_vimrc_autocmd") > let loaded_vimrc_autocmd=1 > autocmd BufNewFile,BufRead /data/wine/* set expandtab tabstop=8 > softtabstop=4 > endif You might want to ad

Re: Governance revisited (Wineconf report)

2006-09-25 Thread Troy Rollo
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 00:16, Jeremy White wrote: > Hmm. Now I'm worried; I've long thought this would be a Good Idea (TM), > and yet if you look at the 'live' project site (presumably the project > this was built for): > http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/linuxppc64/ > > It's pretty clear that

Re: shlwapi: Resupply array sizes stripped by function interface

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Talbot
Dan Kegel wrote: > BTW the way you define the new size, as a magic constant, seems > bad. Can you use 4 * sizeof(WCHAR), or whatever, instead of 8? > And even then, the '4' seems almost as bad. > - Dan Yes, I did feel uneasy about using a magic constant, I must admit. Another way to handle it wo

Re: shlwapi: Resupply array sizes stripped by function interface

2006-09-25 Thread Dan Kegel
Andrew Talbot wrote: >A formal parameter declared as an array is treated as a pointer; any size >specifier is ignored. So here, sizeof decimal_buffer, for example, would >equate to the size of a pointer to WCHAR, not to that of an array of eight >WCHARs. Why are you doing this? Are you asking w

re: shlwapi: Resupply array sizes stripped by function interface

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Talbot
Dan Kegel wrote: > Andrew Talbot wrote: >>A formal parameter declared as an array is treated as a pointer; any size >>specifier is ignored. So here, sizeof decimal_buffer, for example, would >>equate to the size of a pointer to WCHAR, not to that of an array of eight >>WCHARs. > > Why are you doi

Re: [RPCRT4] support for RPC TCP servers

2006-09-25 Thread Robert Shearman
Jakob Eriksson wrote: Jan Zerebecki wrote: On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 12:04:40PM +0100, Robert Shearman wrote: I appreciate your attempt at solving this hard problem, but I don't believe this is the right approach. Using winsock2 instead of Unix sockets adds overhead in terms of wineserver call

Re: [RPCRT4] support for RPC TCP servers

2006-09-25 Thread Robert Shearman
Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On 9/22/06, Robert Shearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Using WSAEVENTs is an interesting approach, but I'd rather see Unix sockets being used with a thread that select's on the socket and sets a Win32 event instead. Also, I think this amount of nesting is confusing and co

Re: kernel32: Remove unwanted null terminator

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Talbot
Alexandre Julliard wrote: > Andrew Talbot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Changelog: >> kernel32: Remove unwanted null terminator. > > There's no null terminator since the array size is specified > explicitly. > Ah, that's interesting! I see, from K&R, that "if [the array's] size is fixed,

re: shlwapi: Resupply array sizes stripped by function interface

2006-09-25 Thread Dan Kegel
Andrew Talbot wrote: A formal parameter declared as an array is treated as a pointer; any size specifier is ignored. So here, sizeof decimal_buffer, for example, would equate to the size of a pointer to WCHAR, not to that of an array of eight WCHARs. Why are you doing this? - Dan

Re: kernel32: Remove unwanted null terminator

2006-09-25 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Andrew Talbot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Changelog: > kernel32: Remove unwanted null terminator. There's no null terminator since the array size is specified explicitly. -- Alexandre Julliard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dmime: Dangling references fix

2006-09-25 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Andrew Talbot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Changelog: > dmime: Dangling references fix. The right way is to use wine_dbg_sprintf("%s") to allocate a copy of the buffer to return. -- Alexandre Julliard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [RPCRT4] support for RPC TCP servers

2006-09-25 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Jan Zerebecki wrote: On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 12:04:40PM +0100, Robert Shearman wrote: I appreciate your attempt at solving this hard problem, but I don't believe this is the right approach. Using winsock2 instead of Unix sockets adds overhead in terms of wineserver calls and extra processing

Re: Governance revisited (Wineconf report)

2006-09-25 Thread n0dalus
On 9/25/06, Jeremy White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hmm. Now I'm worried; I've long thought this would be a Good Idea (TM), and yet if you look at the 'live' project site (presumably the project this was built for): http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/linuxppc64/ It's pretty clear that it's not gett

Re: Wine translations statistics

2006-09-25 Thread Brian Vincent
On 9/25/06, Mikołaj Zalewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, I could try to do it. However I would need to know where could I find some winehq.org pages source codes that could be used as an example, how to send my code (also through wine-patches?) and how to update the data files for the pages

Re: Wine translations statistics

2006-09-25 Thread Mikołaj Zalewski
Nice one! I'll see if I can update some of the German resources. One thing I noticed is that the message table in kernel32 is treated as one resource in the statistics, although it contains quite a number of strings itself. Maybe wmc can be augmented with some "--verify-translation" equivalent

Re: wined3d: fix typo in ResourceReleased

2006-09-25 Thread Stefan Dösinger
Hi, > if (This->stateBlock != NULL ) { > if ((IWineD3DResource *)This->stateBlock->streamSource[streamNumber] == resource) { > TRACE("Vertex buffer released whlst bound to a state block > stream %d\n", streamNumber); > TRACE("Vertex buffer released while bound to a state block stream %d\n", s

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Troy Rollo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If I say I've been coding since I was 14 (in those days home computers had less than 1% penetration in Australia), in assembly language since shortly after that and raw machine code not long after, having memorised the instruction set, then was widely re

Re: Wine translations statistics

2006-09-25 Thread Mikołaj Zalewski
To check what needs to be translated I have played a bit with wrc --verify-translation and made some HTML from it's results. As this might interest other translators I've put the statistics at http://pf128.krakow.sdi.tpnet.pl/wine-transl/ . Very nice! It would be cool if we could integra

Re: Wine translations statistics

2006-09-25 Thread Frank Richter
On 25.09.2006 13:29, Mikołaj Zalewski wrote: > To check what needs to be translated I have played a bit with wrc > --verify-translation and made some HTML from it's results. As this might > interest other translators I've put the statistics at > http://pf128.krakow.sdi.tpnet.pl/wine-transl/ . Nice

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Dimi Paun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In fact, I must say that the most fun I had with Wine was when Alexandre let me run with listview a few year back. He clearly committed patches that weren't perfect, but I appreciated that because that's how I work: I like to do several iterations, maybe re

Re: Governance revisited (Wineconf report)

2006-09-25 Thread Jeremy White
> maybe it is worth looking at patchwork? > > --- > PatchWork is a web-based patch tracking system designed to facilitate the > contribution and management of contributions to an open-source project. > Patches that have been sent to a mailing list are 'caught' by the system, > and

Re: Wine translations statistics

2006-09-25 Thread Dimi Paun
On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 13:29 +0200, Mikołaj Zalewski wrote: > To check what needs to be translated I have played a bit with wrc > --verify-translation and made some HTML from it's results. As this > might interest other translators I've put the statistics at > http://pf128.krakow.sdi.tpnet.pl/wine

Re: Governance revisited (Wineconf report)

2006-09-25 Thread Peter Beutner
Hi Ge van Geldorp wrote: > > If there is genuine interest to make this work I could put up a few mock > webpages to get a better idea of how it would work. > maybe it is worth looking at patchwork? --- PatchWork is a web-based patch tracking system designed to facilitate the c

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread Dimi Paun
On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 19:47 +0900, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > Dimi, I thought you were aware of it, and Alexandre at least at > previous WineConf stated that he accepts dubious code in cases, when > he sees that nobody works on some component: that components were > OLE/COM, DDraw/D3D, BiDi at some

Re: Wine translations statistics

2006-09-25 Thread Tom Wickline
On 9/25/06, Dimi Paun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 13:29 +0200, Mikołaj Zalewski wrote: > To check what needs to be translated I have played a bit with wrc > --verify-translation and made some HTML from it's results. As this > might interest other translators I've put the stat

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread Robert Lunnon
On Monday 25 September 2006 20:08, Ge van Geldorp wrote: > > From: Steven Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Which is why we want to have the ambassadors project to help > > new people in to wine. The thinking goes that if we have some > > people to help hold the hands of new developers and the >

Re: Governance revisited (Wineconf report)

2006-09-25 Thread n0dalus
On 9/25/06, Ge van Geldorp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If there is genuine interest to make this work I could put up a few mock webpages to get a better idea of how it would work. See also my similar post regarding a patch system: http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2006-September/05105

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread Robert Lunnon
On Saturday 23 September 2006 16:42, Mike McCormack wrote: > > The current process is crippling this project, limiting the developer > > base and reducing community value. Without some healthy dissent it will > > never change and get better. I am a friend of change, a true believer in > > the

Re: Wine translations statistics

2006-09-25 Thread Jonathan Ernst
Le lundi 25 septembre 2006 à 13:29 +0200, Mikołaj Zalewski a écrit : > To check what needs to be translated I have played a bit with wrc > --verify-translation and made some HTML from it's results. As this might > interest other translators I've put the statistics at > http://pf128.krakow.sdi.tp

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread Robert Lunnon
On Sunday 24 September 2006 01:06, Rolf Kalbermatter wrote: > Jim White wrote: > > CodeWeavers Wine version is full of patches that Alexandre won't accept > > for WineHQ. Obvious proof that the Alexandre's policy isn't the only > > way to make a Wine that people value. In fact it proves that the >

Re: Governance revisited (Wineconf report)

2006-09-25 Thread Ge van Geldorp
> From: Kai Blin > > Now, getting back to the patch submission process, you're talking about a > patch management system. How would that look like, in your opinion. We were > discussing a couple of ideas, but in the end figured that most of those would > slow down the submission speed of patches

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread Robert Lunnon
On Saturday 23 September 2006 16:36, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > "Jim White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Steven cited the business at Wineconf of Alexandre never being "proved > > wrong on a technical matter". Another straw man. The part of > > Alexandre's patch process that is the root of this

Re: Governance revisited (Wineconf report)

2006-09-25 Thread Robert Lunnon
On Sunday 24 September 2006 00:36, Rolf Kalbermatter wrote: > Robert Lunnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On community, the wine project doesn't represent a community in the sense > > that Wine has an altruistic purpose to provide value to that community - > > It doesn't do that because the wine dev

Last update to git 5 days ago?

2006-09-25 Thread Paul Vriens
Hi, is Alexandre on a holiday again? Or is this to recuperate from WineConf? Cheers, Paul

Re: Governance revisited (Wineconf report)

2006-09-25 Thread Robert Lunnon
On Monday 25 September 2006 04:36, Robert Shearman wrote: > Robert Lunnon wrote: > > 2. Adapt the patch acceptance process to create a right of appeal where a > > patch can be proven to be within the Patch Acceptance policy. Appeal > > should be independent of and binding on Alexandre - this elimin

Wine translations statistics

2006-09-25 Thread Mikołaj Zalewski
To check what needs to be translated I have played a bit with wrc --verify-translation and made some HTML from it's results. As this might interest other translators I've put the statistics at http://pf128.krakow.sdi.tpnet.pl/wine-transl/ . Mikolaj Zalewski

Re: Whither msxml?

2006-09-25 Thread Huw Davies
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 05:52:51AM -0700, Dan Kegel wrote: > If anyone has tips on sore spots with Wine's msxml, please > let me know. Hi Dan, There are lots of things that need to be done in msxml3: Currently we have implemented some of the DOM methods, most of these are part of the IXMLDOMNode

Re: An MSVCRT_fgetc bug

2006-09-25 Thread Chris Robinson
On Monday 25 September 2006 01:04, Tobias Ringström wrote: > There's a bug in MSVCRT_fgetc in 0.9.21 (likely introduced in 0.9.19) in > that it sometimes sign extends the byte read from the file. Looks like 'char *i;' should be 'unsigned char *i;'.

Re: LOSTWAGES: WWN 292 & 320 updates

2006-09-25 Thread Tom Wickline
On 9/25/06, Tom Wickline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/23/06, Mirek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Also Wine reports 64MB of video memory not 16MB > > I think there shuld be option in winecfg to set this, because it is not easy to > find how anyone can do that. http://wiki.winehq.org/Usef

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Dimi Paun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bottom line, I don't know. At most I can say that sometimes I wish Alexandre would be a bit more impulsive, and just let (a selected few) things in that people want. Maybe this way we generate more excitement, and the tiny bit of quality drop we pay with wo

Re: LOSTWAGES: WWN 292 & 320 updates

2006-09-25 Thread Tom Wickline
On 9/23/06, Mirek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also Wine reports 64MB of video memory not 16MB I think there shuld be option in winecfg to set this, because it is not easy to find how anyone can do that. http://wiki.winehq.org/UsefulRegistryKeys Tom

Re: Governance revisited (Wineconf report)

2006-09-25 Thread Kai Blin
On Sunday 24 September 2006 12:08, Ge van Geldorp wrote: > Like I said before, I have a lot of respect for Alexandres technical > abilities. But when I read comments in the Wineconf report about git: > "Developers might not like it, but Alexandre does so it's a success" (did I > mention I dislike

An MSVCRT_fgetc bug

2006-09-25 Thread Tobias Ringström
There's a bug in MSVCRT_fgetc in 0.9.21 (likely introduced in 0.9.19) in that it sometimes sign extends the byte read from the file. The following program illustrates the problem: #include int main() { FILE *f = fopen("tmp.bin", "w+"); fputc(0xe0, f); fputc(0

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-25 Thread Ge van Geldorp
> From: Steven Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Which is why we want to have the ambassadors project to help > new people in to wine. The thinking goes that if we have some > people to help hold the hands of new developers and the > developers that are defacto maintainers of a certain section > of

Tips for vim users

2006-09-25 Thread n0dalus
Hi, Recently I learned a way to have vim automatically change settings when I'm editing wine source code: At the bottom of my ~/.vimrc (create it if it doesn't exist): if !exists("loaded_vimrc_autocmd") let loaded_vimrc_autocmd=1 autocmd BufNewFile,BufRead /data/wine/* set expandtab tabsto