On 12 April 2011 21:04, Iskren Chernev wrote:
> I don't think this lengthy discussion led to any concrete answers, but I do
> think that the questions are important and need such answers.
> I'll try to summarize the problems that need attention:
> 1. screen locking
> 1.1 who is going to implement
I don't think this lengthy discussion led to any concrete answers, but I do
think that the questions are important and need such answers.
I'll try to summarize the problems that need attention:
1. screen locking
1.1 who is going to implement it: compositor/compositor plugin/app
1.2 inhibit locking
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 06:32:29PM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> 2011/4/7 Joakim Sindholt :
> > Anything other than that, nobody will listen to you as you appear to be
> > the last person left on the planet running a linux-based desktop without
> > DBus.
>
> No, I am not the sole Linux user on M
2011/4/6 Michal Suchanek :
> 2011/4/6 Joakim Sindholt :
>> On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 11:42 +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
>>> 2011/4/5 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira :
>>>
>>> >> How will apps like mplayer/vlc/browsers-playing-videos tell the
>>> >> compositor
>>> >> that they are "busy" drawing and that
Michal Suchanek wrote:
It's not difficult for a D-Bus service implementation to monitor for
disconnection events by its clients. If mplayer crashes, wayland could
easily clear out the inhibition that mplayer had installed.
Which means that it works when mplayer crashes but not when it locks up
2011/4/7 Joakim Sindholt :
> On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 18:04 +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
>> 2011/4/7 Corbin Simpson :
>> > 2011/4/7 Michal Suchanek :
>> >> If you have some input on awesomeness of dbus which I miss I am all
>> >> ears but so far nobody could point out any advantage to me when this
>>
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 18:04 +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> 2011/4/7 Corbin Simpson :
> > 2011/4/7 Michal Suchanek :
> >> If you have some input on awesomeness of dbus which I miss I am all
> >> ears but so far nobody could point out any advantage to me when this
> >> topic came to the table.
> >>
2011/4/7 Michal Suchanek :
> This is somewhat offtopic here so I suggest that if your further input
> relates only to how awesome dbus is you send it offlist.
Thank-you!
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2011/4/7 Corbin Simpson :
> 2011/4/7 Michal Suchanek :
>> If you have some input on awesomeness of dbus which I miss I am all
>> ears but so far nobody could point out any advantage to me when this
>> topic came to the table.
>>
>> Sure, dbus likely includes a protocol for passing around the messag
2011/4/7 Michal Suchanek :
> If you have some input on awesomeness of dbus which I miss I am all
> ears but so far nobody could point out any advantage to me when this
> topic came to the table.
>
> Sure, dbus likely includes a protocol for passing around the messages
> but I am sure there are alre
2011/4/7 Corbin Simpson :
> 2011/4/6 Michal Suchanek :
>> JFYI I have a desktop environment running completely without dbus.
>> That does not mean that dbus cannot or should not be used. It is just
>> not as standard as the two most bloated desktop environments might
>> make it seem. AFAICT dbus is
2011/4/6 Matt Hoosier :
> 2011/4/6 Michal Suchanek
>>
>> 2011/4/6 Joakim Sindholt :
>>
>> JFYI I have a desktop environment running completely without dbus.
>> That does not mean that dbus cannot or should not be used. It is just
>> not as standard as the two most bloated desktop environments mig
On 6 April 2011 20:57, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
>> On 6 April 2011 18:34, Jerome Glisse wrote:
>>> 2011/4/6 Michal Suchanek :
2011/4/5 Kristian Høgsberg :
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Michal Suchanek
> wrote:
>> Hello,
On 7 April 2011 02:00, cat wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Michal Suchanek
> wrote:
>>
>> On 6 April 2011 18:34, Jerome Glisse wrote:
>> > 2011/4/6 Michal Suchanek :
>> >> 2011/4/5 Kristian Høgsberg :
>> >>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Michal Suchanek
>> >>> wrote:
>> Hel
2011/4/6 Michal Suchanek :
> JFYI I have a desktop environment running completely without dbus.
> That does not mean that dbus cannot or should not be used. It is just
> not as standard as the two most bloated desktop environments might
> make it seem. AFAICT dbus is just a replacement for a direct
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> On 6 April 2011 18:34, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > 2011/4/6 Michal Suchanek :
> >> 2011/4/5 Kristian Høgsberg :
> >>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Michal Suchanek
> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> what is the plan for screensave/screen
On 04/06/2011 03:00 AM, Joakim Sindholt wrote:
On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 11:42 +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
2011/4/5 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira:
How will apps like mplayer/vlc/browsers-playing-videos tell the compositor
that they are "busy" drawing and that the lock should NOT be engaged even
t
On 6 April 2011 18:34, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> 2011/4/6 Michal Suchanek :
>> 2011/4/5 Kristian Høgsberg :
>>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
Hello,
what is the plan for screensave/screenlocker support in wayland?
The support in X is a fail in severa
2011/4/6 Michal Suchanek :
> 2011/4/5 Kristian Høgsberg :
>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> what is the plan for screensave/screenlocker support in wayland?
>>>
>>> The support in X is a fail in several ways.
>>
>> It sure is. The plan for Wayland is tha
2011/4/6 Michal Suchanek
> 2011/4/6 Joakim Sindholt :
> > On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 11:42 +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> >> 2011/4/5 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira :
> >>
> >> >> How will apps like mplayer/vlc/browsers-playing-videos tell the
> compositor
> >> >> that they are "busy" drawing and that
2011/4/6 Joakim Sindholt :
> On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 11:42 +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
>> 2011/4/5 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira :
>>
>> >> How will apps like mplayer/vlc/browsers-playing-videos tell the compositor
>> >> that they are "busy" drawing and that the lock should NOT be engaged even
>> >>
On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 11:42 +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> 2011/4/5 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira :
>
> >> How will apps like mplayer/vlc/browsers-playing-videos tell the compositor
> >> that they are "busy" drawing and that the lock should NOT be engaged even
> >> though there hasn't been any key
2011/4/5 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira :
>> How will apps like mplayer/vlc/browsers-playing-videos tell the compositor
>> that they are "busy" drawing and that the lock should NOT be engaged even
>> though there hasn't been any keyboard/mouse activity for long stretches? As
>> compared to "default
2011/4/5 Kristian Høgsberg :
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> what is the plan for screensave/screenlocker support in wayland?
>>
>> The support in X is a fail in several ways.
>
> It sure is. The plan for Wayland is that the lock screen is just part
> of t
2011/4/5 Friar
> 2011/4/5 Kristian Høgsberg
>
>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Michal Suchanek
>> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > what is the plan for screensave/screenlocker support in wayland?
>> >
>> > The support in X is a fail in several ways.
>>
>> It sure is. The plan for Wayland is that
2011/4/5 Kristian Høgsberg
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Michal Suchanek
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > what is the plan for screensave/screenlocker support in wayland?
> >
> > The support in X is a fail in several ways.
>
> It sure is. The plan for Wayland is that the lock screen is just part
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> Hello,
>
> what is the plan for screensave/screenlocker support in wayland?
>
> The support in X is a fail in several ways.
It sure is. The plan for Wayland is that the lock screen is just part
of the compositor. There are no problems wit
Hello,
what is the plan for screensave/screenlocker support in wayland?
The support in X is a fail in several ways.
First off there is no way to select all events. While you can spy on
mouse position or key events you can't spy on mouse events so the
screensaver activates when only mouse buttons
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