On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Daniel Stone wrote:
> Hi,
> >
> >
> > As an example, if I wanted to display an wayland session to an Xvnc
> server
> > for instance, or an Xfree86 server running on another computer. its
> > possible, right?
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
>
> Yes, that's completel
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:06 PM, David Jackson wrote:
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> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:03 PM, David Jackson wrote:
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>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Stone wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As reiterated earlier, there is already support for displaying on an X
>>> server within the Wayland
David, with this message form Daniel we end this thread. You're
welcome to participate, but before you send emails about the sky
falling, you need to educate yourself a bit more on how things work in
Wayland.
Kristian
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Daniel Stone wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 27 February
Hi,
On 27 February 2012 20:06, David Jackson wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:03 PM, David Jackson
> wrote:
>> So, I will be able to display wayland session, or did you mean individual
>> wayland apps, onto an X server, over an X protocol connection, to a standard
>> X server? If it is an enti
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:03 PM, David Jackson wrote:
>
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> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Stone wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As reiterated earlier, there is already support for displaying on an X
>> server within the Wayland compositor, and the reverse of having an X
>> server display X applica
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Stone wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As reiterated earlier, there is already support for displaying on an X
> server within the Wayland compositor, and the reverse of having an X
> server display X applications within a Wayland session. I also fully
> expect remote-disp
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:32 AM, David Jackson wrote:
> How does a wayland app do that? How does a wayland app tell the GPU to
> render a square 30x30 at coordinate 40x40? Keep in mind, there are many
> different manufacturers of GPUs and each may have different bugs and
> differences in the inte
David Jackson wrote:
How does a wayland app do that? How does a wayland app tell the GPU to
render a square 30x30 at coordinate 40x40? Keep in mind, there are many
different manufacturers of GPUs and each may have different bugs and
differences in the interface to the hardware, if not a comple
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Scott Moreau wrote:
>
>
>> I apologize if I am asking questions here that are ignorant. Appications
>> it sounds like to me need someway to send a vector command such as an
>> OpenGL command, to render a square, to the GPU.
>>
>> How does a wayland app do that? Ho
>
> I apologize if I am asking questions here that are ignorant. Appications
> it sounds like to me need someway to send a vector command such as an
> OpenGL command, to render a square, to the GPU.
>
> How does a wayland app do that? How does a wayland app tell the GPU to
> render a square 30x30 a
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Bill Spitzak wrote:
> David Jackson wrote:
>
> Ok, well, to have the GPU, render a square, you have to tell the GPU,
>> from the app, "place a square which is 30x20 at the coordinate 40x40. Apps
>> need a way to give a command to the GPU to render a square. How d
Hi,
On 27 February 2012 19:13, David Jackson wrote:
> mesa? really? I thought that the whole purpose of mesa was to render
> everything that opengl provides in userspace on the CPU. mesa is useful in
> cases where you you dont have a video card with a GPU or any OpenGL
> capabilities, which is wh
David Jackson wrote:
Ok, well, to have the GPU, render a square, you have to tell the GPU,
from the app, "place a square which is 30x20 at the coordinate 40x40.
Apps need a way to give a command to the GPU to render a square. How
does a wayland app give a command to render a square to GPU? Wha
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Pavel Sterin wrote:
> On Monday 27 February 2012 12:52:16 David Jackson wrote:
> > if the wayland API does not support high level vector graphics that
> itself
> > makes me skeptical of wayland, to offload rendering to the GPU requires a
> > high level vector rende
David Jackson wrote:
If wayland API itself involves little more than sending pixmap or a
shared memory pixmap pointer from apps to a server, then the only option
it seems that would be feasible is to just send the pixmap data on to an
X server.
This is pretty much how it works.
Sending a pi
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:49 PM, David Jackson wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Renaud Hebert wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
> As far as X12. X12 is not needed. that is because X11 provides the
> extension mechanism that allows you do do anything that you need to extend
> the protocol and
On Monday 27 February 2012 12:52:16 David Jackson wrote:
> if the wayland API does not support high level vector graphics that itself
> makes me skeptical of wayland, to offload rendering to the GPU requires a
> high level vector rendering API used by apps to send vector graphics to the
> window sy
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Renaud Hebert wrote:
> Hello,
>
> While I'm not found of Wayland (I would have preferred X12), I note
> that your email to Wayland's developpers mailing list has all the
> subtility of a troll,
> making sure that whatever point you may have will be totally ignore
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:22:28 -0500
> David Jackson wrote:
>
> > All I need is the ability to display a single wayland application to an
> X
> > server as an xclient connection over X protocol, with network
> transparency,
> > with a comman
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:22:28 -0500
David Jackson wrote:
> All I need is the ability to display a single wayland application to an X
> server as an xclient connection over X protocol, with network transparency,
> with a command line, run time, per process argument to tell it the target X
> serve
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Daniel Stone wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 22 February 2012 21:34, David Jackson wrote:
> > As I mentioned, counting on applications is really not a reliable method,
> > some programmers are sloppy and wont do it. The capability really needs
> to
> > be somewhere in waylan
Hi,
On 22 February 2012 21:34, David Jackson wrote:
> As I mentioned, counting on applications is really not a reliable method,
> some programmers are sloppy and wont do it. The capability really needs to
> be somewhere in wayland to sort of be able to count on it.
Toolkits deal with these kinds
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:15 AM, Pekka Paalanen wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:52:55 -0500
> David Jackson wrote:
>
> > I am asking for the ability to display a wayland app to an X server. My
> > original suggestion was perhaps can be done via a runtime loadable client
> > side driver that wou
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:52:55 -0500
David Jackson wrote:
> I am asking for the ability to display a wayland app to an X server. My
> original suggestion was perhaps can be done via a runtime loadable client
> side driver that would support the wayland client API, there would be
> drivers for rend
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Daniel Stone wrote:
> Hi,
> There's already a Wayland session that runs on X, and as you asked
> for, an X server that runs rootless on Wayland, with full and proper
> integration with a Wayland session. Hope this satisfies you.
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel
>
> A wayland
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Bill Spitzak wrote:
> On 02/19/2012 03:08 PM, Daniel Stone wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> There's already a Wayland session that runs on X, and as you asked
>> for, an X server that runs rootless on Wayland, with full and proper
>> integration with a Wayland session. Hope th
On 02/19/2012 03:08 PM, Daniel Stone wrote:
Hi,
There's already a Wayland session that runs on X, and as you asked
for, an X server that runs rootless on Wayland, with full and proper
integration with a Wayland session. Hope this satisfies you.
The "Wayland session that runs on X" is, I believ
Hi,
There's already a Wayland session that runs on X, and as you asked
for, an X server that runs rootless on Wayland, with full and proper
integration with a Wayland session. Hope this satisfies you.
Cheers,
Daniel
On 19 February 2012 22:04, David Jackson wrote:
> When I initially heard of Way
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