Re: Fwd: [PATCH weston] xdg-shell: Make stable

2014-07-21 Thread Jason Ekstrand
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Manuel Bachmann < manuel.bachm...@open.eurogiciel.org> wrote: > Hi Jasper, Jaspon, thanks for taking good arguments to the table, > > "Destroying and creating an xdg_surface will, certainly." > > Yes, that's what we have been doing for some time, but it has the se

Re: Fwd: [PATCH weston] xdg-shell: Make stable

2014-07-19 Thread Manuel Bachmann
Hi Jasper, Jaspon, thanks for taking good arguments to the table, "Destroying and creating an xdg_surface will, certainly." Yes, that's what we have been doing for some time, but it has the serious drawback that the new surface will not be positioned the same. "xdg_surface_present_window()" "wi

Re: Fwd: [PATCH weston] xdg-shell: Make stable

2014-07-18 Thread Bill Spitzak
On 07/18/2014 11:41 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Bill Spitzak I see no reason this can't be called "show" or "raise". The *creation* of a surface does not mean that the compositor must show it. It could add a blinking "attention needed" task bar

Re: Fwd: [PATCH weston] xdg-shell: Make stable

2014-07-18 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Bill Spitzak wrote: > On 07/18/2014 09:55 AM, Jason Ekstrand wrote: > > I really like Jasper's "present" request solution to this problem. (It >> could probably also be called "attention"). If kwin wants to implement >> that as "move to the appropriate workspace

Re: Fwd: [PATCH weston] xdg-shell: Make stable

2014-07-18 Thread Bill Spitzak
On 07/18/2014 09:55 AM, Jason Ekstrand wrote: I really like Jasper's "present" request solution to this problem. (It could probably also be called "attention"). If kwin wants to implement that as "move to the appropriate workspace and unminimize, then it can do that. Otherwise, it could start

Re: Fwd: [PATCH weston] xdg-shell: Make stable

2014-07-18 Thread Jason Ekstrand
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 5:31 AM, nerdopolis wrote: > On Friday, July 18, 2014 08:25:33 AM Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > > The lack of an unset_minimized feature is very intentional. The *goal*, > it > > sounds like, is to present the window immediately again, but an > > unset_minimized won't do that

Re: Fwd: [PATCH weston] xdg-shell: Make stable

2014-07-18 Thread nerdopolis
On Friday, July 18, 2014 08:25:33 AM Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > The lack of an unset_minimized feature is very intentional. The *goal*, it > sounds like, is to present the window immediately again, but an > unset_minimized won't do that. What if the window is on a different > workspace, or has been

Re: Fwd: [PATCH weston] xdg-shell: Make stable

2014-07-18 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
The lack of an unset_minimized feature is very intentional. The *goal*, it sounds like, is to present the window immediately again, but an unset_minimized won't do that. What if the window is on a different workspace, or has been simply stacked behind another set of windows? unset_minimized won't

Re: Fwd: [PATCH weston] xdg-shell: Make stable

2014-07-18 Thread Manuel Bachmann
Hi everybody, and thanks Phillippe for reacting to this topic, Yes, we under Tizen are using xdg-shell for some of the great features it has, and doing the integration in applications and toolkits such Ozone-Wayland, Qt, EFL... We were recently challenged by a feature needed in the Web runtime, w

Re: Fwd: [PATCH weston] xdg-shell: Make stable

2014-07-18 Thread Philippe Coval
We've gone through enough churn of xdg-shell that we're now feeling confident enough to commit to this much. Let's do it. Ok good news, I guess you're want to gather some feedback before it lands into next release As a qtwayland developer it seems ok for us (note current master branch is align