Re: Bug 78372 - create multiple windows with offset

2014-05-09 Thread Bill Spitzak
On 05/09/2014 12:34 AM, Pekka Paalanen wrote: Possibly you are reading the words "save/restore" literally, in that you are imagining some blob of data stored in the compositor that is recognized to restore the layout. However this is NOT what is wanted. Sure, that's the first thing comes to my

Re: Bug 78372 - create multiple windows with offset

2014-05-09 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On 9 May 2014 08:34, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > On Thu, 08 May 2014 10:52:51 -0700 > Bill Spitzak wrote: > > Possibly you are reading the words "save/restore" literally, in that you > > are imagining some blob of data stored in the compositor that is > > recognized to restore the layout. Howev

Re: Bug 78372 - create multiple windows with offset

2014-05-09 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Thu, 08 May 2014 10:52:51 -0700 Bill Spitzak wrote: > On 05/07/2014 10:54 PM, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > > This is similar to session save/restore, lacking a better term for it. > > We do not even pretend to support or enable this yet. It is just yet one > > more feature that the shell protoco

Re: Bug 78372 - create multiple windows with offset

2014-05-08 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Thu, 08 May 2014 13:13:34 -0700 Bill Spitzak wrote: > I posted the same patch for the xserver for 6 months to allow it to read > a different xorg.conf file. I finally got sick of being ignored and gave > up, also recent xwayland can now work on a non-EGL wayland without > having a special x

Re: Bug 78372 - create multiple windows with offset

2014-05-08 Thread Bill Spitzak
On 05/08/2014 01:34 PM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: xorg.conf is outdated, and really shouldn't be used in production. It's been replaced by /etc/xorg.conf.d. Xwayland shouldn't require *any* configuration. At all. If we need to configure Xwayland somewhere, we've messed up. If you're still having

Re: Bug 78372 - create multiple windows with offset

2014-05-08 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Bill Spitzak wrote: > On 05/08/2014 11:31 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > >> I don't know how you can have been on the Wayland mailing list for this >> long and not grasp core Wayland protocol concepts. Clients cannot get >> global surface positions, and it's been t

Re: Bug 78372 - create multiple windows with offset

2014-05-08 Thread Bill Spitzak
On 05/08/2014 11:31 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: I don't know how you can have been on the Wayland mailing list for this long and not grasp core Wayland protocol concepts. Clients cannot get global surface positions, and it's been that way since day 1 six years ago. Yes I know that. I said EXAC

Re: Bug 78372 - create multiple windows with offset

2014-05-08 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
I don't know how you can have been on the Wayland mailing list for this long and not grasp core Wayland protocol concepts. Clients cannot get global surface positions, and it's been that way since day 1 six years ago. I also have never seen a patch or a line of code from you, ever. It's incredibly

Re: Bug 78372 - create multiple windows with offset

2014-05-08 Thread Bill Spitzak
On 05/07/2014 10:54 PM, Pekka Paalanen wrote: This is similar to session save/restore, lacking a better term for it. We do not even pretend to support or enable this yet. It is just yet one more feature that the shell protocol suite for desktop should cover, but so far no-one has done any work o

Re: Bug 78372 - create multiple windows with offset

2014-05-08 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
What should happen if the user unplugs monitors, or adds an additional one, or repositions them? What should be restored where? On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Bill Spitzak wrote: > Good to see there is an actual bug on this, but I need to ask for our > exact case: > > Our app can be configured

Re: Bug 78372 - create multiple windows with offset

2014-05-07 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:10:31 -0700 Bill Spitzak wrote: > Good to see there is an actual bug on this, but I need to ask for our > exact case: No, there is not. The bug report was not a valid bug, and is now closed. > Our app can be configured to have 2 (well actually any number) of > windows.

Re: Bug 78372 - create multiple windows with offset

2014-05-07 Thread Bill Spitzak
Good to see there is an actual bug on this, but I need to ask for our exact case: Our app can be configured to have 2 (well actually any number) of windows. Normally each window is maximized or fullscreen on a different output. User expects to be able to rearrange the windows, change their si

Re: Bug 78372 - create multiple windows with offset

2014-05-07 Thread Rohit Nandan
Yes i'm working for embedded platform where with current desktop shell we cant debug two overlays visually running same apps with same size. Thanks You . Rohit Nandan On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > The rationale explained in the bug by Pekka and Emilio sounds OK to

Re: Bug 78372 - create multiple windows with offset

2014-05-07 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
The rationale explained in the bug by Pekka and Emilio sounds OK to me. Explaining a bit more about your use case with your data visualization app might be helpful. What kinds of systems do you want your app to be run on? Generic desktop systems? If so, then you can't guarantee anything about util

Bug 78372 - create multiple windows with offset

2014-05-07 Thread Rohit Nandan
Please go through this NOTABUG bug. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78372 Rohit Nandan ___ wayland-devel mailing list wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel