Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-05-01 Thread Erwin Burema
On Wed, 1 May 2019 at 13:00, Graeme Gill wrote: > > Erwin Burema wrote: > > Hi, > > > 1) Will always be a single solid color, so no need for the full > > wl_buffer/wl_surface interface > > you don't know that, as it's up to the calibration and profiling > application. It may well want to paint gui

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-05-01 Thread Graeme Gill
Erwin Burema wrote: Hi, > 1) Will always be a single solid color, so no need for the full > wl_buffer/wl_surface interface you don't know that, as it's up to the calibration and profiling application. It may well want to paint guide graphics for the positioning of the instrument. It could want t

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-18 Thread Sebastian Wick
On April 17, 2019 12:38:15 PM GMT+02:00, Erwin Burema wrote: >On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 11:32, Pekka Paalanen >wrote: >> >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 23:42:30 +0200 >> Erwin Burema wrote: >> >> > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 17:03, Pekka Paalanen >wrote: >> > > >> > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:33:02 + >>

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-17 Thread Erwin Burema
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 13:37, Sebastian Wick wrote: > > > > On April 17, 2019 12:38:15 PM GMT+02:00, Erwin Burema > wrote: > >On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 11:32, Pekka Paalanen > >wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 23:42:30 +0200 > >> Erwin Burema wrote: > >> > >> > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 17:03, P

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-17 Thread Sebastian Wick
On April 17, 2019 12:38:15 PM GMT+02:00, Erwin Burema wrote: >On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 11:32, Pekka Paalanen >wrote: >> >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 23:42:30 +0200 >> Erwin Burema wrote: >> >> > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 17:03, Pekka Paalanen >wrote: >> > > >> > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:33:02 + >>

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-17 Thread Erwin Burema
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 11:32, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 23:42:30 +0200 > Erwin Burema wrote: > > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 17:03, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:33:02 + > > > Erwin Burema wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday, 16 April 2019, Pekka Paal

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-17 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 23:42:30 +0200 Erwin Burema wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 17:03, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:33:02 + > > Erwin Burema wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, 16 April 2019, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:11:06 +0200 > > > > Erwin

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-16 Thread Erwin Burema
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 17:03, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:33:02 + > Erwin Burema wrote: > > > On Tuesday, 16 April 2019, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:11:06 +0200 > > > Erwin Burema wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 12:45, Pekka Paalanen

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-16 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:33:02 + Erwin Burema wrote: > On Tuesday, 16 April 2019, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:11:06 +0200 > > Erwin Burema wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 12:45, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:57:47 +0200 >

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-16 Thread Erwin Burema
On Tuesday, 16 April 2019, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:11:06 +0200 > Erwin Burema wrote: > > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 12:45, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:57:47 +0200 > > > Erwin Burema wrote: > > > > > > > Without a way to calibrate/profile scr

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-16 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:11:06 +0200 Erwin Burema wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 12:45, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:57:47 +0200 > > Erwin Burema wrote: > > > > > Without a way to calibrate/profile screens an color management > > > protocol looses a lot of its value. So

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-16 Thread Sebastian Wick
On 2019-04-16 12:45, Pekka Paalanen wrote: On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:57:47 +0200 Erwin Burema wrote: Without a way to calibrate/profile screens an color management protocol looses a lot of its value. So to add this missing feature I wrote the following protocol. The idea is that the calibration/

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-16 Thread Simon Ser
> > Btw. how would a compositor know the bit depth of a monitor and the > > transport (wire)? I presume there should be some KMS properties for > > that in addition to connector types. > > Huh, this surprises me a bit would have expected KMS to know something > about the screens attached and which

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-16 Thread Erwin Burema
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 12:45, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:57:47 +0200 > Erwin Burema wrote: > > > Without a way to calibrate/profile screens an color management > > protocol looses a lot of its value. So to add this missing feature I > > wrote the following protocol. > > > >

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-16 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:57:47 +0200 Erwin Burema wrote: > Without a way to calibrate/profile screens an color management > protocol looses a lot of its value. So to add this missing feature I > wrote the following protocol. > > The idea is that the calibration/profiling SW only sets the RGB > tri

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-16 Thread Erwin Burema
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 08:42, Sebastian Wick wrote: > > On 2019-04-15 23:38, Erwin Burema wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 20:30, Sebastian Wick > > wrote: > >> > >> On 2019-04-14 12:57, Erwin Burema wrote: > >> > Without a way to calibrate/profile screens an color management > >> > protocol loo

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-15 Thread Sebastian Wick
On 2019-04-15 23:38, Erwin Burema wrote: On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 20:30, Sebastian Wick wrote: On 2019-04-14 12:57, Erwin Burema wrote: > Without a way to calibrate/profile screens an color management > protocol looses a lot of its value. So to add this missing feature I > wrote the following pr

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-15 Thread Graeme Gill
Simon Ser wrote: I guess most people don't have a colorimeter at home. Most people who are doing color critical work will have access to a color measurement instrument, or will have some other method of ensuring the consistency and availability of accurate display characterization information (

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-15 Thread Erwin Burema
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 21:46, Simon Ser wrote: > > On Monday, April 15, 2019 10:42 PM, Sebastian Wick > wrote: > > > How would the client "measure"? > > > > With a colorimeter. Write some values that you expect to have a certain > > color, read the actual colors, calculate the error. > > I'm not

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-15 Thread Erwin Burema
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 20:30, Sebastian Wick wrote: > > On 2019-04-14 12:57, Erwin Burema wrote: > > Without a way to calibrate/profile screens an color management > > protocol looses a lot of its value. So to add this missing feature I > > wrote the following protocol. > > > > The idea is that th

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-15 Thread Simon Ser
On Monday, April 15, 2019 10:42 PM, Sebastian Wick wrote: > > How would the client "measure"? > > With a colorimeter. Write some values that you expect to have a certain > color, read the actual colors, calculate the error. > I'm not sure if that answers your question. Sorry, I'm not familiar wi

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-15 Thread Sebastian Wick
On 2019-04-15 21:01, Simon Ser wrote: On Monday, April 15, 2019 9:30 PM, Sebastian Wick wrote: On 2019-04-14 12:57, Erwin Burema wrote: > Without a way to calibrate/profile screens an color management > protocol looses a lot of its value. So to add this missing feature I > wrote the following p

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-15 Thread Simon Ser
On Monday, April 15, 2019 9:30 PM, Sebastian Wick wrote: > On 2019-04-14 12:57, Erwin Burema wrote: > > Without a way to calibrate/profile screens an color management > > protocol looses a lot of its value. So to add this missing feature I > > wrote the following protocol. > > > > The idea is tha

Re: [RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-15 Thread Sebastian Wick
On 2019-04-14 12:57, Erwin Burema wrote: Without a way to calibrate/profile screens an color management protocol looses a lot of its value. So to add this missing feature I wrote the following protocol. The idea is that the calibration/profiling SW only sets the RGB triplet and then the composit

[RFC 0/1] Color manager calibration protocol v1

2019-04-14 Thread Erwin Burema
Without a way to calibrate/profile screens an color management protocol looses a lot of its value. So to add this missing feature I wrote the following protocol. The idea is that the calibration/profiling SW only sets the RGB triplet and then the compositor is responsible to draw a rectanglular