dence.
> On Mar 16, 2015 8:35 PM, "microcai" wrote:
> > on Monday 16 March 2015 20:28:48，Daniel Stone wrote：
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On 16 March 2015 at 00:35, Jason Ekstrand wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Bill S
on Monday 16 March 2015 20:28:48，Daniel Stone wrote：
> Hi,
>
> On 16 March 2015 at 00:35, Jason Ekstrand wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Bill Spitzak wrote:
> >> [blah blah blah]
> >>
> >> Events seem to be ok, but my complaint is that a large number of
> >> coordinates in the api
the
> compositor scales up your buffer to match. If you submit "2" and you are on
> a hi-DPI display, it all matches up and things are fine. If you submit "2"
> and you are on a low-DPI display, the compositor scales down your buffer to
> match.
>
> On Mon, Ma
ay, it all matches and
> things are fine. If you submit "1" and you are on a hi-DPI display, the
> compositor scales up your buffer to match. If you submit "2" and you are on
> a hi-DPI display, it all matches up and things are fine. If you submit "2"
> and yo
在 2015年3月9日 Monday 10:39:20，您写道：
> Hi,
>
> On Monday, March 9, 2015, microcai wrote:
> > so we are forcing two code pathes in APP? or just support non-integer
> > scale?
>
> Scaling is a specific fallback for legacy/non-DPI-aware clients, to get
> them to show
As some one in the IRC channel told me, we should totally ignore DPIs when
design UI.
so, in wayland word, we design UIs in pixels -- no, in device independent
pixels -- and scales at pixel level.
so instead of using 9pit font, we using 8x16 font.
CAN you imagnaging how stupid this would be i
on Wednesday 10 December 2014 16:30:19，Jussi Laako wrote：
> Regardless of the "massive design flaws" it works just fine IRL...
X11 also works fine.
Just work fine is not acceptable.
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在 2014年10月30日 星期四 21:36:15，martins scun 写道：
> Hi everybody! I have a project for developing a Python based OS. Just for
> fun.It will use the Linux kernel and a python runtime to execute core
> modules and apps. Currently, I'm working on porting Wayland to python. If
> anybody's interested, I appre
2013/8/28 David Herrmann :
> Hi
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:16 PM, microcai wrote:
>> 2013/8/25 David Herrmann :
> [...]
>>> The idea behind a system-compositor was to provide a system daemon
>>> that runs _outside_ a session. Its sole responsibility is t
2013/8/25 David Herrmann :
> Hi
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Jason Ekstrand wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> I am in the process of picking back up the old idea of system compositors.
>> I am not, at the moment, looking for a review of the code; simply a review
>> of the concept and the proposed p
2012/9/28 David Herrmann :
> Hi Bill
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Bill Spitzak wrote:
>> This sounds like a really good idea!
>>
>> What are you doing about UTF-8? Any modern terminal better handle it and at
>> least display glyphs for every valid UTF-8 encoded character. Also important
>
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On 2012年08月15日 08:45, Bill Spitzak wrote:
> Does the proposed input methods support clients being able to show
> intermediate results? This is
certainly useful to make "dead keys" less "dead", and I am under the
impression that it is very useful for
Status updata:
weston now can create accelerated GL window using my GLX powerd EGL
but weston-desktop-shell segfautl, so currently bland screen.
:)
Will dig into it .
2012/7/20 Scott Moreau :
>>
>> Personally I feel this is necessary if wayland is going to succeed.
>
>
> Wayland is already su
2012/7/19 microcai :
> The only thing wayland needed is a way to share buffers.
>
> Currently the reference implementation uses EGL(with wayland
> extension) to render, switch to another render api is painful and
> useless.
>
> The only reason that NVIDIA can't cooperate
The only thing wayland needed is a way to share buffers.
Currently the reference implementation uses EGL(with wayland
extension) to render, switch to another render api is painful and
useless.
The only reason that NVIDIA can't cooperate with weston is that, they
don't provide EGL implementation w
When weston compisotor lanches, it is using launching EGL platform,
aka, DRM or X11
But the fellow clients shout then use Wayland EGL platform.
The problem is that shell-desktop.so and tablet-desktop.so runs
inside weston, thus it is using the launching EGL platform, DRM or
X11, that's wrong.
solved by using EGL_SOFTWARE=1
driver bug I think
2012/7/13 microcai :
> hard debug shows it sigfaut at
>
> EGLBoolean EGLAPIENTRY
> eglQueryWaylandBufferWL(EGLDisplay dpy,struct wl_buffer *buffer,
> EGLint attribute, EGLint *value)
> {
>
After digging enough to Render API and Window API, I know that I was wrong.
Wayland is here not for a performance reason, but to design a
windowing system in a right way.
X11 build a Render System inside Window System, and make the Render
System depend on Window System, which is plain wrong.
We c
NULL here
2012/7/13 microcai
>
> the backtrace is:
>
> (gdb) backtrace
> #0 0x in ?? ()
> #1 0x779b6653 in eglQueryWaylandBufferWL () from
> /usr/lib64/libEGL.so.1
> #2 0x00408a7a in weston_surface_attach (surface=0x8c8680,
> buffe
the backtrace is:
(gdb) backtrace
#0 0x in ?? ()
#1 0x779b6653 in eglQueryWaylandBufferWL () from
/usr/lib64/libEGL.so.1
#2 0x00408a7a in weston_surface_attach (surface=0x8c8680,
buffer=0x8937c0) at compositor.c:778
#3 0x0040a79c in surface_attach (clien
wayland is build on KMS and EGL
Xegl doesn't require KMS but if you have KMS that will be fine.
wayland forces apps to use GL but Xegl translates every Xlib call to GL
call.
wayland lost net work transparency, Xegl not.
wayland is not compatible with X, while Xegl does.
.
many many many
于 2011年05月21日 01:08, Kristian Høgsberg 写道:
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Zhao, Juan J wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>Does wayland use evdev driver? Is there any support for remote control
>> (for example the remote control of TV)?
>
> We use evdev and the evdev input events can be handled by
于 2011年05月13日 01:47, Bill Spitzak 写道:
> microcai wrote:
>
>> They can't care how big a windows is in the pixel, but in the inch.
>>
>> People should have different monitors with different DPI. Windows should
>> stay same size regardless the DPI.
>>
>
I personally does support and only support client side decoration.
Move and resize ? Better be done in the server side.
Average application should never care about where its windows is. The
compositor cares and move them without notify the client.
If the unusual application does care where its
于 2011年05月08日 00:30, Mike Paquette 写道:
>
> On May 7, 2011, at 8:40 AM, microcai wrote:
>
>>> I know some basic theory of compositor. But I still have concern about
>>> client window decorations. I think it is very likely an application
>>> becomes unrespons
于 2011年05月07日 06:01, cat Wrote
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: cat
> Date: 2011/5/6
> Subject: Re: client side decorations
> To: Kristian Høgsberg
>
>
>
>
> 2011/5/6 Kristian Høgsberg
>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:14 PM, cat wrote:
"Window management policy" should a
于 2011年05月06日 16:57, Niklas Höglund 写道:
> On 6 May 2011 09:42, Sam Spilsbury wrote:
>> You cannot assume that there will be a universally adopted method to
>> styling because we see on every single platform that there will *not*
>> be one. The best way to enforce styling is to enforce it at the wi
于 2011年05月06日 12:50, Mike Paquette 写道:
>
> On May 5, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Kristian Høgsberg wrote:
>
>> Also, the concern about not being able to close and moving hung apps
>> just seems blown out of proportion. Yes, it's a neat feature that X
>> WMs can deal with this, but it's just about the only
于 2011年05月05日 22:58, cat 写道:
> that consistant theming is possible for any program that can handle images,
> not just the ones using a toolkits themeing system. and i am say that this
> can and should be resolved in a way that everybody can agree to.
Don't forget the old UNIX philosophy, provide m
于 2011年05月05日 22:13, cat 写道:
> I thought the compositor would/could provide decoration. the compositors are
> after all their own projects as wayland is a protocol, and if you haven't
> noticed, most metacity/emrald themes are just a set of pictures, would it be
> bad if the compositor had the abil
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于 2011年04月20日 20:39, Tom Cooksey 写道:
> Hi All,
>
> Please excuse the spam... just trying to spread the word: Linaro is
> currently developing a graphics memory manager for Linux which allows
> buffers to be shared between different devices and differe
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no. fb now under a new name: KMS
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2011/2/26 José Expósito :
> Hi! thanks for the answers... but now I have more questions that at
> begining hahaha
>
>> 1 - Wayland support window management?
>> Wayland is a compositor+window manager+display server AIO
>
> If Wayland is the window manager, what about projects like Compiz,
> Kwin, e
I used to think wayland is better.
But now, I don't.
What is Wayland ?
Let me tell you:
Final Wayland = X11 that rip out everything but GLX.
Current wayland still missing Input framework like XIM. And batch of
other stuffs. Adding it will led wayland to another X11.
Wayland forces every app
2011/2/1 Arthur Zhu :
> From: Arthur Zhu
>
> ---
> configure.ac | 29 +++--
> 1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/configure.ac b/configure.ac
> index 46938f4..8a429a7 100644
> --- a/configure.ac
> +++ b/configure.ac
> @@ -1100,23 +1100,24
You must be chinese
it caused by GFW .
2011/1/5 Matt Yung :
> Hi,
> I used "git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/wayland", but got
> following error message.
>
> $ git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/wayland
> Initialized empty Git repository in h:/wayland/.git/
> anongit.freedesk
2010/12/14 Mohamed Ikbel Boulabiar :
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering whether we can find a better solution to the scenarios
> where Wayland crashes.
> You all know that for the X case, when it crashes, everything open is
> lost, you need to re-login and you need to reopen your apps again.
> Non-saved wor
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