headless wayland sessions, wayland apps displayed to apps

2012-12-03 Thread David Jackson
With Wayland will we be able to: Have multiple seperate wayland sessions on the same computer, as many as one wishes, with many of them being headless, accessible if the user wishes through a remote desktop solution such as VNC? Will be able to use a command line switch or environment variable to

Re: concerns over wayland and need for wayland app display to X Server

2012-02-27 Thread David Jackson
ld be able to do what i need. The ability to do individual wayland apps is not necessary and being able to do display a wayland session displayed only to an Xvnc server or an Xfree86 server will be fine. Thanks, I appreciate the assurances. Sincerely, David Jackson _

Re: concerns over wayland and need for wayland app display to X Server

2012-02-27 Thread David Jackson
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:06 PM, David Jackson wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:03 PM, David Jackson wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Stone wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> As reiterated earlier, there is alrea

Re: concerns over wayland and need for wayland app display to X Server

2012-02-27 Thread David Jackson
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:03 PM, David Jackson wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Stone wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> As reiterated earlier, there is already support for displaying on an X >> server within the Wayland compositor, and the revers

Re: concerns over wayland and need for wayland app display to X Server

2012-02-27 Thread David Jackson
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Stone wrote: > Hi, > > As reiterated earlier, there is already support for displaying on an X > server within the Wayland compositor, and the reverse of having an X > server display X applications within a Wayland session. I also fully > expect remote-disp

Re: concerns over wayland and need for wayland app display to X Server

2012-02-27 Thread David Jackson
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Scott Moreau wrote: > > >> I apologize if I am asking questions here that are ignorant. Appications >> it sounds like to me need someway to send a vector command such as an >> OpenGL command, to render a square, to the GPU. >> >> How does a wayland app do that? Ho

Re: concerns over wayland and need for wayland app display to X Server

2012-02-27 Thread David Jackson
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Bill Spitzak wrote: > David Jackson wrote: > > Ok, well, to have the GPU, render a square, you have to tell the GPU, >> from the app, "place a square which is 30x20 at the coordinate 40x40. Apps >> need a way to give a command to the G

Re: concerns over wayland and need for wayland app display to X Server

2012-02-27 Thread David Jackson
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Pavel Sterin wrote: > On Monday 27 February 2012 12:52:16 David Jackson wrote: > > if the wayland API does not support high level vector graphics that > itself > > makes me skeptical of wayland, to offload rendering to the GPU requires a >

Re: concerns over wayland and need for wayland app display to X Server

2012-02-27 Thread David Jackson
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:49 PM, David Jackson wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Renaud Hebert wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> > As far as X12. X12 is not needed. that is because X11 provides the > extension mechanism that allows you do do anything th

Re: concerns over wayland and need for wayland app display to X Server

2012-02-27 Thread David Jackson
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Renaud Hebert wrote: > Hello, > > While I'm not found of Wayland (I would have preferred X12), I note > that your email to Wayland's developpers mailing list has all the > subtility of a troll, > making sure that whatever point you may have will be totally ignore

Re: concerns over wayland and need for wayland app display to X Server

2012-02-27 Thread David Jackson
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Jesse Barnes wrote: > On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:22:28 -0500 > David Jackson wrote: > > > All I need is the ability to display a single wayland application to an > X > > server as an xclient connection over X protocol, with network &g

Re: concerns over wayland and need for wayland app display to X Server

2012-02-27 Thread David Jackson
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Daniel Stone wrote: > Hi, > > On 22 February 2012 21:34, David Jackson wrote: > > As I mentioned, counting on applications is really not a reliable method, > > some programmers are sloppy and wont do it. The capability really needs >

Re: concerns over wayland and need for wayland app display to X Server

2012-02-22 Thread David Jackson
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:15 AM, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:52:55 -0500 > David Jackson wrote: > > > I am asking for the ability to display a wayland app to an X server. My > > original suggestion was perhaps can be done via a runtime loadable client

Re: concerns over wayland and need for wayland app display to X Server

2012-02-20 Thread David Jackson
r an X client connection to an X server on another computer. On 19 February 2012 22:04, David Jackson wrote: > > When I initially heard of Wayland, my reaction was of great concern, for > I > > was concerned that this could affect my network transparency use and my > >

Re: concerns over wayland and need for wayland app display to X Server

2012-02-20 Thread David Jackson
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Bill Spitzak wrote: > On 02/19/2012 03:08 PM, Daniel Stone wrote: > >> Hi, >> There's already a Wayland session that runs on X, and as you asked >> for, an X server that runs rootless on Wayland, with full and proper >> integration with a Wayland session. Hope th