Re: Collaboration on standard Wayland protocol extensions

2016-03-27 Thread Giulio Camuffo
2016-03-27 23:34 GMT+03:00 Drew DeVault : > Greetings! I am the maintainer of the Sway Wayland compositor. > > http://swaywm.org > > It's almost the Year of Wayland on the Desktop(tm), and I have > reached out to each of the projects this message is addressed to (GNOME, > Kwin, and wayland-devel) t

Re: Collaboration on standard Wayland protocol extensions

2016-03-27 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Drew DeVault wrote: > On 2016-03-27 4:41 PM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > > What are your specific concerns with it? I would tend to agree. I think > that it's not bad as an implementation of this mechanic, but I agree > that it's approaching the problem wrong. I th

Re: Collaboration on standard Wayland protocol extensions

2016-03-27 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 22:29:57 -0400 Drew DeVault said: > On 2016-03-28 8:55 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > i can tell you that screen capture is a security sensitive thing and likely > > won't get a regular wayland protocol. it definitely won't from e. if you can > > capture screen, you can scre

Re: Collaboration on standard Wayland protocol extensions

2016-03-27 Thread Drew DeVault
On 2016-03-27 4:41 PM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > My opinion is still as follows: having seen how SELinux and PAM work > out in practice, I'm skeptical of any "Security Module" which > implements policy. The "module" part of it rarely happens, since > people simply gravitate towards a standard pol

Re: Collaboration on standard Wayland protocol extensions

2016-03-27 Thread Drew DeVault
On 2016-03-28 8:55 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > i can tell you that screen capture is a security sensitive thing and likely > won't get a regular wayland protocol. it definitely won't from e. if you can > capture screen, you can screenscrape. some untrusted game you downloaded for > free can star

Re: Collaboration on standard Wayland protocol extensions

2016-03-27 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:34:37 -0400 Drew DeVault said: > Greetings! I am the maintainer of the Sway Wayland compositor. > > http://swaywm.org > > It's almost the Year of Wayland on the Desktop(tm), and I have > reached out to each of the projects this message is addressed to (GNOME, > Kwin, and

Re: Collaboration on standard Wayland protocol extensions

2016-03-27 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
You're probably referring to my response when you say "GNOME does not care about cross-platform apps doing privileged operations". My response wasn't meant to be speaking on behalf of GNOME. These are my opinions and mine alone. My opinion is still as follows: having seen how SELinux and PAM work

Re: Collaboration on standard Wayland protocol extensions

2016-03-27 Thread Drew DeVault
Thanks for the links! I'll read through them. I figured that a discussion like this had happened in the past around how to give clients privledge, but I couldn't find anything that would allow them to actually do the thing they were given permission to. We should flesh out both parts of this model.

Re: Collaboration on standard Wayland protocol extensions

2016-03-27 Thread Martin Peres
On 27/03/16 23:34, Drew DeVault wrote: Greetings! I am the maintainer of the Sway Wayland compositor. http://swaywm.org It's almost the Year of Wayland on the Desktop(tm), and I have reached out to each of the projects this message is addressed to (GNOME, Kwin, and wayland-devel) to collaborate

Collaboration on standard Wayland protocol extensions

2016-03-27 Thread Drew DeVault
Greetings! I am the maintainer of the Sway Wayland compositor. http://swaywm.org It's almost the Year of Wayland on the Desktop(tm), and I have reached out to each of the projects this message is addressed to (GNOME, Kwin, and wayland-devel) to collaborate on some shared protocol extensions for d