Re: wl_tablet specification draft

2014-06-29 Thread Bill Spitzak
On 06/29/2014 11:33 PM, Pekka Paalanen wrote: moving the visible cursor doesn't necessarily mean that it must translate into the wl_pointer protocol. It's probably awkward at first if the pointer moves and clients don't react to it but if we essentially require the toolkits to support wl_tablet

Re: Candidates for Weston 1.5 stable branch

2014-06-29 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 16:43:42 +0300 Pekka Paalanen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently working on top of the stable 1.5 Weston branch, and was > picking fixes from master. Below is what I picked that seemed > worthwhile for stable: > > > The following changes since commit a35d028d66cdd83a4a08663231d

Re: wl_tablet specification draft

2014-06-29 Thread Bill Spitzak
On 06/28/2014 02:41 AM, Pekka Paalanen wrote: - The pen moves the seat's mouse cursor, always. If more than one cursor is wanted the pen should be in a different seat. The user is not manipulating more than one device at a time and does not want to see two cursors. ...and then you said the exa

Re: wl_tablet specification draft

2014-06-29 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:08:35 +1000 Peter Hutterer wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 12:41:33PM +0300, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:04:59 -0700 > > Bill Spitzak wrote: > > > > > On 06/26/2014 09:38 PM, Ping Cheng wrote: > > > > > > > With my experience, mapping whole tablet t

Re: wl_tablet specification draft

2014-06-29 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 12:41:33PM +0300, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:04:59 -0700 > Bill Spitzak wrote: > > > On 06/26/2014 09:38 PM, Ping Cheng wrote: > > > > > With my experience, mapping whole tablet to a window or a > > > specific display area is preferred. That is how map

Re: [PATCH libinput] Add functions to get the device name, PID and VID

2014-06-29 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:10:30AM -0700, Jason Gerecke wrote: > On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Peter Hutterer > wrote: > > Those three are the ones that matter for logging or device identification in > > callers, so let's provide them. > > > > Signed-off-by: Peter Hutterer > > Have you though

Re: Window placement

2014-06-29 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > Please, reply-to-all so CC's do not get dropped. > Thanks Pekka for the excellent response. This is going to be a really useful quotable mail in the future :) ... snip ... http://people.collabora.com/~pq/menu-rotate.png > http://people.c

Re: Window placement

2014-06-29 Thread Pekka Paalanen
Please, reply-to-all so CC's do not get dropped. On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 19:25:04 +0200 Fabrice Rey wrote: > > "Are they stacked like regular windows, where they're raised to the top > when you click on them or are they always stacked below application > windows? Can you alt-tab to them? Do they app

Re: Window placement

2014-06-29 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em dom 29 jun 2014, às 19:35:28, Fabrice Rey escreveu: > They can't be coupled with the compositor, it would mean that such an > application would have to make a plug-in (if it's even possible) for each > compositor in the universe. Correct. > I'm sure Wayland can be as a good desktop environment

Re: Window placement

2014-06-29 Thread Fabrice Rey
They can't be coupled with the compositor, it would mean that such an application would have to make a plug-in (if it's even possible) for each compositor in the universe. I'm sure Wayland can be as a good desktop environment as X. 2014-06-29 19:30 GMT+02:00 Thiago Macieira : > Em dom 29 jun 201

Re: Window placement

2014-06-29 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em dom 29 jun 2014, às 18:57:08, Fabrice Rey escreveu: > > "The idea is that those are tightly coupled with the compositor. There's > > no need to standardise if they only work with one compositor." > > Google gadget, Screenlet or Cairo-Desklet are not coupled with any Window > Manager at the mom

Re: Window placement

2014-06-29 Thread Fabrice Rey
> "Are they stacked like regular windows, where they're raised to the top when you click on them or are they always stacked below application windows? Can you alt-tab to them? Do they appear in any taskbar?" They set the hints "skip_taskbar" and "skip_pager"; therefore their position on the stack

Re: Window placement

2014-06-29 Thread Fabrice Rey
> "The idea is that those are tightly coupled with the compositor. There's no need to standardise if they only work with one compositor." Google gadget, Screenlet or Cairo-Desklet are not coupled with any Window Manager at the moment, they work on any desktop. So they should also work with any com

Re: Window placement

2014-06-29 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Fabrice Rey wrote: > > "xdg-shell is between desktop applications and the compositor, not > between some concept of "desklets" and the compositor. I don't even know > what a "desklet" is." > > Well, a desklet is a desktop widget, for instance a clock or a weather

Re: Window placement

2014-06-29 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em dom 29 jun 2014, às 18:41:51, Fabrice Rey escreveu: > Well, a desklet is a desktop widget, for instance a clock or a weather > widget. > They are a bit particular in the sense that they should be placed at a > given position and have no decorations, but that's all, and as far as I > know, they h

Re: Window placement

2014-06-29 Thread Fabrice Rey
> "xdg-shell is between desktop applications and the compositor, not between some concept of "desklets" and the compositor. I don't even know what a "desklet" is." Well, a desklet is a desktop widget, for instance a clock or a weather widget. They are a bit particular in the sense that they should

Re: Window placement

2014-06-29 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Fabrice Rey wrote: > > "By the application and the compositor they're designed for having a > specific extension that they use to negotiate the position. The compositor > may allow this extension only to known applications it launches. Or maybe > not at all: the

Re: Window placement

2014-06-29 Thread Fabrice Rey
> "By the application and the compositor they're designed for having a specific extension that they use to negotiate the position. The compositor may allow this extension only to known applications it launches. Or maybe not at all: the compositor may want to do that only via plugins running on the

Re: Window placement

2014-06-29 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em dom 29 jun 2014, às 17:44:46, Fabrice Rey escreveu: > Hi, > First thank you for hard work on Wayland/X. > > As I understand, there is no window placement on the client side in Wayland. > Because of that, a desklet application can't place its desklets on the > desktop. Currently in Weston, they

Re: xwayland

2014-06-29 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em dom 29 jun 2014, às 20:27:22, Pooja Thakoor escreveu: > If I am running an X11 application in weston-terminal . How can I be > sure about the fact that its running on XWayland? An X11 application should not care that it's on XWayland. For all it should care, it's X, period. How can you be sur

Window placement

2014-06-29 Thread Fabrice Rey
Hi, First thank you for hard work on Wayland/X. As I understand, there is no window placement on the client side in Wayland. Because of that, a desklet application can't place its desklets on the desktop. Currently in Weston, they are automatically placed (randomly, each time at a different positi

xwayland

2014-06-29 Thread Pooja Thakoor
If I am running an X11 application in weston-terminal . How can I be sure about the fact that its running on XWayland? weston.ini [core] #modules=xwayland.so,cms-colord.so ___ wayland-devel mailing list wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.fr

Re: How do I get started?

2014-06-29 Thread Armin K.
On 06/29/2014 04:45 PM, Ayan Shafqat wrote: > Thanks for your prompt reply, Armin. I am familiar with git scm and have > used it for a few projects. What I am interested in are the points below: > > (1) Coding style guidelines for Wayland. I believe source files use tabs. But you can always take

Re: How do I get started?

2014-06-29 Thread Ayan Shafqat
Thanks for your prompt reply, Armin. I am familiar with git scm and have used it for a few projects. What I am interested in are the points below: (1) Coding style guidelines for Wayland. (2) Where to submit patches. (3) Code review process. Let me know where I can find information to these. Than