Re: I feel configure events and requests are messed up

2011-09-06 Thread Kristian Høgsberg
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: > Il giorno mar, 06/09/2011 alle 15.27 -0700, Bill Spitzak ha scritto: >> Giovanni Campagna wrote: >> >> > You can do instantaneous updates even if the size is determined by the >> > compositor, rather than the client: you just wait for the

Re: I feel configure events and requests are messed up

2011-09-06 Thread Kristian Høgsberg
2011/9/6 Giovanni Campagna : > Il giorno mar, 06/09/2011 alle 17.31 -0400, Kristian Høgsberg ha > scritto: ... >> Maybe you should introduce yourself and what you're working on before >> threatening to break protocol?  I don't know what you're trying to do. > > Right, sorry, I should have done it b

Wayland And Nvidia Binary Blob Legal Issue.

2011-09-06 Thread Steve Starr
I am trying to figure out what the issue is with Nvidia supporting Wayland for it's Binary Blob. >From my understanding KMS symbols are GPL. NVidia can't legally use them. but hasn't the Nvidia Binary Driver always used some form of KMS? Thanks Steven :) __

Re: I feel configure events and requests are messed up

2011-09-06 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno mar, 06/09/2011 alle 15.27 -0700, Bill Spitzak ha scritto: > Giovanni Campagna wrote: > > > You can do instantaneous updates even if the size is determined by the > > compositor, rather than the client: you just wait for the client to > > prepare a new buffer before redrawing the window.

Re: I feel configure events and requests are messed up

2011-09-06 Thread Bill Spitzak
Giovanni Campagna wrote: You can do instantaneous updates even if the size is determined by the compositor, rather than the client: you just wait for the client to prepare a new buffer before redrawing the window. The compositor would have to somehow be prepared for the client to *never* prod

Re: I feel configure events and requests are messed up

2011-09-06 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno mar, 06/09/2011 alle 17.31 -0400, Kristian Høgsberg ha scritto: > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Giovanni Campagna > wrote: > > Il giorno mar, 06/09/2011 alle 13.11 -0700, Bill Spitzak ha scritto: > >> I believe that unless the client has final say, and an unambiguous > >> method to for

Re: I feel configure events and requests are messed up

2011-09-06 Thread Kristian Høgsberg
2011/9/6 Giovanni Campagna : > Il giorno mar, 06/09/2011 alle 16.37 -0400, Kristian Høgsberg ha > scritto: >> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Bill Spitzak wrote: >> > I believe that unless the client has final say, and an unambiguous method >> > to >> > force a window to any dimension it wants, t

Re: I feel configure events and requests are messed up

2011-09-06 Thread Kristian Høgsberg
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: > Il giorno mar, 06/09/2011 alle 13.11 -0700, Bill Spitzak ha scritto: >> I believe that unless the client has final say, and an unambiguous >> method to force a window to any dimension it wants, then Wayland is a >> failure. Please do not c

Re: I feel configure events and requests are messed up

2011-09-06 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno mar, 06/09/2011 alle 16.37 -0400, Kristian Høgsberg ha scritto: > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Bill Spitzak wrote: > > I believe that unless the client has final say, and an unambiguous method to > > force a window to any dimension it wants, then Wayland is a failure. Please > > do no

Re: I feel configure events and requests are messed up

2011-09-06 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno mar, 06/09/2011 alle 13.11 -0700, Bill Spitzak ha scritto: > I believe that unless the client has final say, and an unambiguous > method to force a window to any dimension it wants, then Wayland is a > failure. Please do not copy the asynchronous window management of X11! > > Here is w

Re: How does wayland support Video HW overlay?

2011-09-06 Thread Kristian Høgsberg
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Zhao, Juan J wrote: > Hi all > > How does wayland support Video HW overlay? For example color key in > XVideo extension on Xorg? That's all handled by the compositor. The applications just provide buffers to the compositor, and a video play will provide a

Re: Child window question

2011-09-06 Thread Kristian Høgsberg
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Zhao, Juan J wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any "sub window" or "child window" concept on wayland? For example, > now browser will have flash plugin as its child window. But when moving to > wayland, how could we resolve this? No, that's not available. The flash plugin

Re: I feel configure events and requests are messed up

2011-09-06 Thread Kristian Høgsberg
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Bill Spitzak wrote: > I believe that unless the client has final say, and an unambiguous method to > force a window to any dimension it wants, then Wayland is a failure. Please > do not copy the asynchronous window management of X11! Yup, what you describe below is

Re: I feel configure events and requests are messed up

2011-09-06 Thread Bill Spitzak
I believe that unless the client has final say, and an unambiguous method to force a window to any dimension it wants, then Wayland is a failure. Please do not copy the asynchronous window management of X11! Here is what I see: 1. There is a client->compositor call that says "resize this windo

Re: How does wayland support Video HW overlay?

2011-09-06 Thread Kai Mast
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05.09.2011 15:20, Zhao, Juan J wrote: > > Hi all > > How does wayland support Video HW overlay? For example color key in XVideo extension on Xorg? I guess the Wayland Clients can just utilize VA-API, VDPAU or similiar and render it to their buffer