Re: the memory puzzle me....

2010-11-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck, On 11/24/2010 12:47 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: > I suspect the more sophisticated profilers like YourKit will [show > PermGen details], but I'm not sure. Others on the list use YourKit > regularly, so they might be able to be more definiti

Re: the memory puzzle me....

2010-11-24 Thread Mark Thomas
On 24/11/2010 05:47, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: >> From: xu cheng [mailto:xcheng@gmail.com] >> Subject: Re: the memory puzzle me > >> by the way, do you know *any tool that can monitor the permanent >> generation*, such what's now resident in the perm

Re: the memory puzzle me....

2010-11-23 Thread xu cheng
>> >> From: xu cheng [mailto:xcheng@gmail.com] >>>> Subject: Re: the memory puzzle me >>>> >>> >>> by the way, do you know *any tool that can monitor the permanent >>>> generation*, such what's now resident in the p

Re: the memory puzzle me....

2010-11-23 Thread Blair Zajac
r+VisualVM+with+Oracle+Application+Server Blair On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:54 PM, xu cheng wrote: thanks!!! you really help me a lot! someone knows how to figure out how much permanent gen my vm is using? 2010/11/24 Caldarale, Charles R From: xu cheng [mailto:xcheng@gmail.com] Subject: Re:

Re: the memory puzzle me....

2010-11-23 Thread xu cheng
m] >> >> > Subject: Re: the memory puzzle me >> >> > by the way, do you know *any tool that can monitor the permanent >> > generation*, such what's now resident in the perm gen? >> >> I presume you mean on Windows, since you already found one for

Re: the memory puzzle me....

2010-11-23 Thread xu cheng
thanks!!! you really help me a lot! someone knows how to figure out how much permanent gen my vm is using? 2010/11/24 Caldarale, Charles R > > From: xu cheng [mailto:xcheng@gmail.com] > > Subject: Re: the memory puzzle me > > > by the way, do you know *any tool

RE: the memory puzzle me....

2010-11-23 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: xu cheng [mailto:xcheng@gmail.com] > Subject: Re: the memory puzzle me > by the way, do you know *any tool that can monitor the permanent > generation*, such what's now resident in the perm gen? I presume you mean on Windows, since you already found one for L

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2010-11-23 Thread xu cheng
with this I used some other profiler tools but they just show* how much* perm gen was used, but not *what they are used for* thanks best regards 2010/11/24 Caldarale, Charles R > > From: xu cheng [mailto:xcheng@gmail.com] > > Subject: Re: the memory puzzle me > >

RE: the memory puzzle me....

2010-11-23 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: xu cheng [mailto:xcheng@gmail.com] > Subject: Re: the memory puzzle me > the permanent generation is also collected by major gc? Correct. > what will trigger a gc in the permanent generation When either the tenured or the permanent generation is full, someone call

Re: the memory puzzle me....

2010-11-23 Thread xu cheng
thanks, by the way, the permanent generation is also collected by major gc? and what will trigger a gc in the permanent generation best regards 2010/11/24 Caldarale, Charles R > > From: xu cheng [mailto:xcheng@gmail.com] > > Subject: the memory puzzle me > > > I ob

RE: the memory puzzle me....

2010-11-23 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: xu cheng [mailto:xcheng@gmail.com] > Subject: the memory puzzle me > I oberved the heap of the jvm which runs tomcat without deploying > any webapp. and it's some kind like this /|/|/|/|/|/| That's called a sawtooth pattern, and is what you should be se

the memory puzzle me....

2010-11-23 Thread xu cheng
hi; I oberved the heap of the jvm which runs tomcat without deploying any webapp. and it's some kind like this /|/|/|/|/|/| when the used heap goes up, there is a memory use of the heap, maybe allocation for the new class instances, and when it goes down , there is a gc, am I right? but I didn