Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark, On 12/1/11 9:50 AM, Mark H. Wood wrote: > On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 12:38:01PM +0100, Mikolaj Rydzewski wrote: >> On the other hand, increasing java heap size is not always the >> best option. It heavily depends on memory usage pattern in your >>

Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mikolaj, On 12/1/11 6:38 AM, Mikolaj Rydzewski wrote: > On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:29:14 +0100, Casper Wandahl Schmidt wrote: > >> That didn't quite help me understand, because how can the OS map >> from ie. 0-4GB to 4-8GB (the window is moved) when it ca

Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Casper, On 12/1/11 3:39 AM, Casper Wandahl Schmidt wrote: > Aha so I learned something new today :) I'm still puzzled as to > how a 32 bit CPU can compute and fetch a memory cell with address > above 4GB since it cannot hold this large value. OS != C

Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 12:38:01PM +0100, Mikolaj Rydzewski wrote: > On the other hand, increasing java heap size is not always the best > option. It heavily depends on memory usage pattern in your application. > In general: the bigger heap, the longer GC will run. I was thinking that someone

Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Mark H. Wood
The OS has little to do with the calculation. The CPU hardware is doing it. The processor's address logic uses registers which are wider than 32 bits. Just as you can add a 1-digit number to a 3-digit number and get a 3-digit result, the widget that maps a process' virtual address space to the h

RE: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] > Subject: Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows > platform > > In general: the bigger heap, the longer GC will run. Not strictly true, and hasn't been true for many years. GC time is proportio

Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread André Warnier
Mikolaj Rydzewski wrote: On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:29:14 +0100, Casper Wandahl Schmidt wrote: That didn't quite help me understand, because how can the OS map from ie. 0-4GB to 4-8GB (the window is moved) when it can only use a 32bit register to tell the machine where to look in the psysical memor

RE: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Mikolaj Rydzewski
On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:29:14 +0100, Casper Wandahl Schmidt wrote: That didn't quite help me understand, because how can the OS map from ie. 0-4GB to 4-8GB (the window is moved) when it can only use a 32bit register to tell the machine where to look in the psysical memory, that is where my knowl

RE: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Casper Wandahl Schmidt
-Original Message- From: Francis GALIEGUE [mailto:f...@one2team.com] Sent: 1. december 2011 12:33 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:29, Casper Wandahl Schmidt wrote: [...] > >

Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Francis GALIEGUE
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:29, Casper Wandahl Schmidt wrote: [...] > > That didn't quite help me understand, because how can the OS map from ie. > 0-4GB to 4-8GB (the window is moved) when it can only use a 32bit register > to tell the machine where to look in the psysical memory, that is where my

RE: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Casper Wandahl Schmidt
-Original Message- From: Ronald Klop (Mailing List) [mailto:ronald-mailingl...@base.nl] Sent: 1. december 2011 12:06 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform Op donderdag, 1 december 2011 09:39 schreef Casper

Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Ronald Klop (Mailing List)
: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Casper, On 11/30/11 3:37 AM, Casper Wandahl Schmidt wrote: > Another question to ask is, why do you have 8GB memory when running > 32bit? T

[OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Casper Wandahl Schmidt
See below. I hope MS Outlook does some decent indend so my response is clear -.- -Original Message- From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Sent: 30. november 2011 18:51 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows

Re: [OT] Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Francis GALIEGUE
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 22:38, André Warnier wrote: [...] > > I am not knowledgeable at all in such questions, and while you are at it let > me ask a question : > Does the fact of having a system with a 64-bit CPU (and OS) necessarily (or > usually) imply that data transfers between CPU and RAM ha

RE: [OT] Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Ilya Kazakevich
>>Does the fact of having a system with a 64-bit CPU (and OS) necessarily (or usually) imply >>that data transfers between CPU and RAM happen also 64-bit in parallel ? That depends on front bus width. Modern PCs has 64-bit bus AFAIK. In "64-bit CPU" 64 is register size and nothing else (although

Re: [OT] Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread André Warnier
Francis GALIEGUE wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 18:51, Christopher Schultz wrote: [...] Running a machine with more than 4GiB in 32-bit mode isn't stupid at all IMO. If you have relatively small processes, there's no need for the overhead of 64-bit even if you have 16GiB or more. This is qui

Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Stefan Mayr
Am 30.11.2011 12:08, schrieb j...@gniffelnieuws.net: On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 16:14:45 +0530, Choudhury wrote Hello , The question is not why I would use 32 bit JVM , the question is whether there is any maximum limit on memory for Tomcat and if yes why ? Regards, The limit is the JVM, not

[OT] Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Francis GALIEGUE
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 18:51, Christopher Schultz wrote: [...] > > Running a machine with more than 4GiB in 32-bit mode isn't stupid at > all IMO. If you have relatively small processes, there's no need for > the overhead of 64-bit even if you have 16GiB or more. > This is quite the opposite: a

RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Ilya Kazakevich
>> That is just stupid since 32bit cannot address more >> than 4GB of memory no matter what you do. Any sysadmin should know >> that right? >That's per process. All reasonably recent 32-bit OSs can address way >more than 4GiB internally. Yes, but one region in memory is reserved for IO. Drivers u

Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Casper, On 11/30/11 3:37 AM, Casper Wandahl Schmidt wrote: > Another question to ask is, why do you have 8GB memory when > running 32bit? That is just stupid since 32bit cannot address more > than 4GB of memory no matter what you do. Any sysadmin shou

Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Subhrajyoti, On 11/30/11 1:28 AM, choudh...@labware.com wrote: > Is there any cap on maximum memory that can be assigned to tomcat > on 32 bit Windows machines? See this week's thread called "Server crash for memory limit" for some information about

Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Pid *
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Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread john
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 16:14:45 +0530, Choudhury wrote > Hello , > The question is not why I would use 32 bit JVM , the > question is whether there is any maximum limit on memory for Tomcat > and if yes why ? Regards, > It depends on the windows version used actually. From what I remember t

Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Francis GALIEGUE
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:44, wrote: > Hello , >        The question is not why I would use 32 bit JVM , the question is > whether there is any maximum limit on memory for Tomcat and if yes why ? The question _is_ why you use a 32bit OS and JVM with 8 GB RAM. Tomcat is not limited in memory us

Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Choudhury
: Francis GALIEGUE To: Tomcat Users List Date: 11/30/2011 01:51 PM Subject:Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 07:28, wrote: > Hi , > Is there any cap on maximum memory that can be assigned to tomcat &

Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Francis GALIEGUE
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 09:37, Casper Wandahl Schmidt wrote: > [...] >> > Another question to ask is, why do you have 8GB memory when running 32bit? > That is just stupid since 32bit cannot address more than 4GB of memory no > matter what you do. Any sysadmin should know that right? > > disclaimer

Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Casper Wandahl Schmidt
Den 30-11-2011 09:21, Francis GALIEGUE skrev: On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 07:28, wrote: Hi , Is there any cap on maximum memory that can be assigned to tomcat on 32 bit Windows machines ? I have found out that even if we have 8GB memory in the server , can not assign more 1.4/1.5 GB to T

Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Francis GALIEGUE
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 07:28, wrote: > Hi , >         Is there any cap on maximum memory that can be assigned to tomcat > on 32 bit Windows machines ? I have found out that even if we have 8GB > memory in the server , can not assign more 1.4/1.5 GB to Tomcat . I also > found this thread which re

Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-29 Thread Choudhury
Hi , Is there any cap on maximum memory that can be assigned to tomcat on 32 bit Windows machines ? I have found out that even if we have 8GB memory in the server , can not assign more 1.4/1.5 GB to Tomcat . I also found this thread which reinforces what I have been seeing ? We are usi