Re: [OT] Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-16 Thread Elli Albek
Another simple way to use tomcat with eclipse is to start tomcat with remote debugging, and attach to it from eclipse. A couple of switches in the tomcat startup script should do it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tom

Re: [OT] Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-15 Thread Ken Bowen
On the Eclipse question: Eclipse basically just starts your Tomcat (which you configure into Eclipse), using it's own startup script which maps all Tomcat output into the Eclipse console. As such, JNDI (or whatever else) works just like it does when start Tomcat from it's own startup.sh in

Re: [OT] Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-15 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David, I'm bringing this back onto the list in case it helps anyone. Also marking OT. On 12/15/2009 1:42 PM, David Fisher wrote: > We designed things during the Tomcat 3 timeframe. I will need to push my > developer to do it the JNDI way, I'll likely

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-15 Thread David Fisher
Hi Chris, Current architecture is to share a jar in shared/lib between the main webapps, an admin webapps and a localhost only management webapps. This was originally in Tomcat 3. New architecture will separate each, drop the management webapps and we'll control contexts via multicasting, j

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-14 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All, On 12/14/2009 11:58 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote: > FWIW, we recently moved from 5.5 to 5.0 in our development environment Thanks, Ken. s/5\.0/6.0/ :) - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using Gnu

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-14 Thread Ken Bowen
Now that's really retro. :-) On Dec 14, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote: FWIW, we recently moved from 5.5 to 5.0 in our development environment - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org F

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-14 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David, On 12/11/2009 3:39 PM, David Fisher wrote: >> Finally, you might consider using a ServletContextListener instead of a >> Servlet, as this is the recommended practice for context setup. You can >> still provide a servlet to report on the status

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-11 Thread David Fisher
Hi Chris, public class UniverseLoader extends HttpServlet { protected long timeLoaded; public void init() throws ServletException { new Thread(new LoadUniverseTask()).start(); } public void doGet(HttpServletRequest request, HttpServletResponse response) throws ServletExcept

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-11 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David, On 12/10/2009 9:08 PM, David Fisher wrote: > public class UniverseLoader extends HttpServlet { > > protected long timeLoaded; > > public void init() throws ServletException { > new Thread(new LoadUniverseTask()).start(); >

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-11 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scot, > Original Message > Subject: RE: Context Chicken & Egg Problem > From: "Caldarale, Charles R" > Date: Thu, December 10, 2009 6:24 pm > To: Tomcat Users List > >> From: sh...@radiant

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread David Fisher
s, Dave On Dec 10, 2009, at 5:34 PM, sh...@radiantblue.com wrote: Thank you Chuck. That is exactly what I was looking for. Original Message ---- Subject: RE: Context Chicken & Egg Problem From: "Caldarale, Charles R" Date: Thu, December 10, 2009 6:24 pm To: Tomc

RE: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread shatt
Thank you Chuck. That is exactly what I was looking for. Original Message Subject: RE: Context Chicken & Egg Problem From: "Caldarale, Charles R" Date: Thu, December 10, 2009 6:24 pm To: Tomcat Users List > From: sh...@radiantblue.com [mailto:sh...@radiantbl

RE: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: sh...@radiantblue.com [mailto:sh...@radiantblue.com] > Subject: RE: Context Chicken & Egg Problem > > just a curiosity as to what is happening under the Tomcat > covers during this scenario. Tomcat initialization is single-thread, so if webapp A happens to get initia

RE: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread shatt
Thanks for your reply Chris. I mentioned in one of the replies that this is only a question regarding why an app in the initialization phase should or should not make an HTTP call, for whatever reason, to a "yet to be initialized" context in the same container. This is a case of "I want to run the

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scot, On 12/10/2009 12:45 PM, Scot Hatt wrote: > So either I am just not able to adequately describe what I am seeing, nobody > has dealt with this issue, or I am completely missing the forest through the > trees via the information you are providing.

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scot, On 12/10/2009 10:32 AM, Scot Hatt wrote: > I was curious if there is a specific reference on this problem that I can > point to for my fellow devs that try to run everything on a single Tomcat > instance. Not on a single Tomcat instance, but yo

RE: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread Scot Hatt
at Users List Subject: Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem It still seems like a simple issue to me. Split your initialization of A into A1 and A2. A2 is no longer part of immediate initialization for A. Put your Scheduler launches, with their Data retrieve components, into A2. When A is started, i

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread Ken Bowen
- ... - Data retrieval component n fires and calls "http://localhost:8080/B/servlet/HereIsData"; - /A dies Does this make more sense? -Scot -Original Message- From: Ken Bowen [mailto:kbo...@als.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:47 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Context

RE: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread Scot Hatt
e, or I am completely missing the forest through the trees via the information you are providing. -Scot -Original Message- From: Pid [mailto:p...@pidster.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:26 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem On 10/12/2009 16:14, S

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread Leon Rosenberg
n fires and calls > "http://localhost:8080/B/servlet/HereIsData"; > - /A dies > > Does this make more sense? > -Scot > > -Original Message- > From: Ken Bowen [mailto:kbo...@als.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:47 AM > To: Tomcat Users List > Su

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread Pid
cot Hatt Subject: Re: Context Chicken& Egg Problem On 10/12/2009 15:32, Scot Hatt wrote: Thank you for the response. I understand the limitation I am up against and it is not a production level issue that I have to get around. I have a local VM, as I stated, that solves the issue

RE: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread Scot Hatt
10, 2009 10:47 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem If I understand you correctly, your problem is that B needs to be initialized before A. (I don't understand what running locally as to do with it. ??) If that is correct, why can't you organize the in

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread Ken Bowen
ssage- From: Pid [mailto:p...@pidster.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:22 AM To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem On 10/12/2009 15:15, Scot Hatt wrote: Hello, I have spent a great deal of time scouring the bug list and trying to put together the

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread Ken Bowen
a specific reference on this problem that I can point to for my fellow devs that try to run everything on a single Tomcat instance. -Scot -Original Message- From: Pid [mailto:p...@pidster.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:22 AM To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Re: Conte

RE: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread Scot Hatt
this problem that I can point to for my fellow devs that try to run everything on a single Tomcat instance. -Scot -Original Message- From: Pid [mailto:p...@pidster.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:22 AM To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem On 1

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread Pid
On 10/12/2009 15:22, Pid wrote: On 10/12/2009 15:15, Scot Hatt wrote: Hello, I have spent a great deal of time scouring the bug list and trying to put together the right set of terms to find resolution for this but have been unsuccessful. I am dealing with a situation where webapp A is calling

Re: Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread Pid
On 10/12/2009 15:15, Scot Hatt wrote: Hello, I have spent a great deal of time scouring the bug list and trying to put together the right set of terms to find resolution for this but have been unsuccessful. I am dealing with a situation where webapp A is calling a servlet in webapp B during A's

Context Chicken & Egg Problem

2009-12-10 Thread Scot Hatt
Hello, I have spent a great deal of time scouring the bug list and trying to put together the right set of terms to find resolution for this but have been unsuccessful. I am dealing with a situation where webapp A is calling a servlet in webapp B during A's startup. I think I am dealing wit