Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-21 Thread Terence M. Bandoian
On 2/12/2013 9:36 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote: On 2/11/13 4:30 PM, Terence M. Bandoian wrote: I understand the considerations above and they are a part of the prevailing thinking. However, one underlying assumption of the supporting argument appears to be that today's programmers are not cap

Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-14 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Terrence, On 2/14/13 1:23 AM, Terence M. Bandoian wrote: > I probably should have said there is a "potential for lost > knowledge". Here are a couple of anecdotal examples that I hope > will help illustrate what I mean. > > - I was told recently

Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-13 Thread Terence M. Bandoian
On 2/12/2013 9:36 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote: On 2/11/13 4:30 PM, Terence M. Bandoian wrote: I understand the considerations above and they are a part of the prevailing thinking. However, one underlying assumption of the supporting argument appears to be that today's programmers are not cap

RE: Build vs. buy (Was: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness)

2013-02-12 Thread Leo Donahue - RDSA IT
>-Original Message- >From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] >Subject: Build vs. buy (Was: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server >unresponsiveness) > >Re-writing just because a piece of code has become out-of-touch with current >standa

Re: Build vs. buy (Was: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness)

2013-02-12 Thread Edson Richter
Em 12/02/2013 13:36, Christopher Schultz escreveu: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2/11/13 4:30 PM, Terence M. Bandoian wrote: I understand the considerations above and they are a part of the prevailing thinking. However, one underlying assumption of the supporting argument

Build vs. buy (Was: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness)

2013-02-12 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > On 2/11/13 4:30 PM, Terence M. Bandoian wrote: > > I understand the considerations above and they are a part of the > prevailing thinking. However, one underlying assumption of the > supporting argument appears to be that today's programmers are

Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-11 Thread Terence M. Bandoian
On 2/10/2013 7:13 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Terrence, On 2/9/13 8:01 PM, Terence M. Bandoian wrote: On 2/6/2013 9:26 AM, Jeffrey Janner wrote: IMO, developer performance trumps runtime performance most of the time. So, if you can create a

Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-10 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Terrence, On 2/9/13 8:01 PM, Terence M. Bandoian wrote: > On 2/6/2013 9:26 AM, Jeffrey Janner wrote: >>> IMO, developer performance trumps runtime performance most of >>> the time. So, if you can create a more maintainable system in less time >

RE: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-09 Thread Terence M. Bandoian
On 2/6/2013 9:26 AM, Jeffrey Janner wrote: IMO, developer performance trumps runtime performance most of the time. >So, if you can create a more maintainable system in less time by using >EJB (or whatever), then you go ahead and do it: servers are cheap, >while developer time is expensive. > >- -

Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-08 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 André, On 2/6/13 3:05 PM, André Warnier wrote: > As maybe one more rant to add to this series, and as a reply to > the "just throw more hardware at it, it's cheap" line. In my defense, I was mostly talking about the trade-offs between something tha

Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-06 Thread André Warnier
Jeffrey Janner wrote: -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:06 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness -Original Message- From: C

RE: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-06 Thread Jeffrey Janner
> -Original Message- > From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:06 PM > To: 'Tomcat Users List' > Subject: RE: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness > > > -Original Message-

RE: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-06 Thread Jeffrey Janner
> -Original Message- > From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:02 AM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAG

Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-06 Thread Christopher Schultz
Re: [Seriously OT] >> Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> >> IMO, developer performance trumps runtime performance most of the >> time. So, if you can create a more maintainable system in less >> time by using EJ

Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-06 Thread Edson Richter
Em 06/02/2013 13:26, Jeffrey Janner escreveu: -Original Message- From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:59 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

RE: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-06 Thread Jeffrey Janner
> -Original Message- > From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:59 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE

Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-05 Thread Howard W. Smith, Jr.
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Chris, > > On 2/2/13 11:47 AM, chris derham wrote: >>> In the Java world, most people would only call it a consider it >>> a "cluster" if the app servers actually know about each othe

Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-05 Thread Howard W. Smith, Jr.
Chris, On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Howard, > > On 2/1/13 9:57 PM, Howard W. Smith, Jr. wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Christopher Schultz >> wrote: >>> >>> If you want to improve performance even mo

Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-05 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Chris, On 2/2/13 11:47 AM, chris derham wrote: >> In the Java world, most people would only call it a consider it >> a "cluster" if the app servers actually know about each other -- >> for instance, if you are using session replication. IMO session

Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness

2013-02-05 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Howard, On 2/1/13 9:57 PM, Howard W. Smith, Jr. wrote: > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Christopher Schultz > wrote: >> >> If you want to improve performance even more, ditch EJB >> altogether. > > Wow, that hurt. ditch EJB altogether? I 'grew