Re: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-26 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Markus Schaber wrote on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 09:11:57 +0200: > Von: Daniel Shahaf > > Perhaps you'd be interested in contributing to the implementation of > > this feature? > > Yes, I am, but I've only very limited time to work on it while being at > home. I see. Hope you find the time for it :)

AW: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-26 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi, Daniel, Von: Daniel Shahaf [mailto:d...@daniel.shahaf.name] > Markus Schaber wrote on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 15:57:00 +0200: > > Hi, Stefan, > > > > Von: Stefan Sperling [mailto:s...@elego.de] > > > > So I'm not only "detaching" subdirectories, but also "re-implanting" > > > > them afterwards.

Re: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2011/7/26 Feldhacker, Chris : >>  I wonder if people will expect a script named "detach" to copy or do they >> think it will move? > > More like "extract" or "promote" -- promoting a child folder to become a > full-fledged, independent working copy... > > "liberate"?  Kinda like that...  :-) > "

RE: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Feldhacker, Chris
>  I wonder if people will expect a script named "detach" to copy or do they > think it will move? More like "extract" or "promote" -- promoting a child folder to become a full-fledged, independent working copy... "liberate"? Kinda like that... :-) -Message Disclaimer- This e-mail

Re: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Mark Phippard
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Hyrum K Wright wrote: > Because it interests me, I implemented a simple 'detach' script, which > you can find here: > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/trunk/tools/client-side/detach.py > > It's very hacky, and I do, of course, disclaim any harm which m

Re: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Hyrum K Wright
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Markus Schaber wrote on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 15:57:00 +0200: >> Hi, Stefan, >> >> Von: Stefan Sperling [mailto:s...@elego.de] >> > > So I'm not only "detaching" subdirectories, but also "re-implanting" >> > > them afterwards. >> > >> > Sound

Re: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Markus Schaber wrote on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 15:57:00 +0200: > Hi, Stefan, > > Von: Stefan Sperling [mailto:s...@elego.de] > > > So I'm not only "detaching" subdirectories, but also "re-implanting" > > > them afterwards. > > > > Sounds like what you really need is this as-of-yet not implemented >

Re: AW: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Daniel Shahaf
I think you've made your point by now. However, 1.7 is close enough to being released that this feature will NOT be included in it. How do you suggest to proceed? Personally, I'd suggest documenting this in the 1.7 release notes and contributing the hands to work on this for 1.8. Les Mikesell w

Re: AW: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:13:43AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 7/25/2011 9:58 AM, Mark Phippard wrote: > >You agree but you are also missing or glossing over my point. When you > >copied that subdirectory you were not using a feature of SVN, you used > >the OS. SVN cannot provide an option on

Re: AW: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 09:49:13AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > I'm not arguing that the change is bad or shouldn't have been done, > just that it is a very surprising change in design philosophy, and > projects that make surprising design changes without concern for > existing use patterns And th

Re: AW: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/25/2011 9:58 AM, Mark Phippard wrote: Agreed, but it is a logical design that falls out of the way subdirectories work and the way people use them. There are plenty of instances where people did not want this behavior, and for them it is now fixed. Ag

Re: AW: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Mark Phippard
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 7/25/2011 9:24 AM, Mark Phippard wrote: > >> >> In SVN 1.6 and earlier it is not like someone wrote code specifically to >> allow people to copy/move folders out of their WC. It was just >> something that fell out of the design. >> > > Ag

Re: AW: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/25/2011 9:24 AM, Mark Phippard wrote: Von: Les Mikesell [mailto:lesmikes...@gmail.com ] On 7/25/11 3:22 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote: I am not aware of any existing developer who expressed interest in

Re: AW: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Mark Phippard
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 7/25/11 7:49 AM, Markus Schaber wrote: > >> >> Von: Les Mikesell [mailto:lesmikes...@gmail.com] >> >>> On 7/25/11 3:22 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote: >>> I am not aware of any existing developer who expressed interest in working on '

AW: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi, Stefan, Von: Stefan Sperling [mailto:s...@elego.de] > > So I'm not only "detaching" subdirectories, but also "re-implanting" > > them afterwards. > > Sounds like what you really need is this as-of-yet not implemented > feature: > http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3625 Yes,

Re: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 03:04:02PM +0200, Markus Schaber wrote: > My most common (ab-)usage is to use this as a poor man's local branch > feature. I'm working on some long-term task (e. G. some large > refactoring or new feature), and get interrupted by some short fix which > has to be developed on

Re: AW: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/25/11 7:49 AM, Markus Schaber wrote: Von: Les Mikesell [mailto:lesmikes...@gmail.com] On 7/25/11 3:22 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote: I am not aware of any existing developer who expressed interest in working on 'svn detach'. Just curious: what drove the original WC design where each subdir

AW: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi, Von: Stefan Sperling [mailto:s...@elego.de] > > > This works fine even for new directories, deleted ones, etc. > > > Caveat: It cannot do copies yet -- those will show up as simple adds. > > > > So moves and renames will lose their history? > > Yes. This is because the patch format cannot rep

AW: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi, Von: Les Mikesell [mailto:lesmikes...@gmail.com] > On 7/25/11 3:22 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote: > > I am not aware of any existing developer who expressed interest in > > working on 'svn detach'. > > Just curious: what drove the original WC design where each subdirectory > was inherently indep

Re: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 02:27:04PM +0200, Markus Schaber wrote: > Hi, Stefan, > > > Von: Stefan Sperling [mailto:s...@elego.de] > > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:37:36AM +0200, Markus Schaber wrote: > > > Hi, Stefan, > > > > > > Von: Stefan Sperling [mailto:s...@elego.de] > > > >> [Detaching of su

Re: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/25/11 3:22 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote: I am not aware of any existing developer who expressed interest in working on 'svn detach'. Just curious: what drove the original WC design where each subdirectory was inherently independent? And is this the same set of developers? -- Les Mikes

AW: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi, Stefan, > Von: Stefan Sperling [mailto:s...@elego.de] > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:37:36AM +0200, Markus Schaber wrote: > > Hi, Stefan, > > > > Von: Stefan Sperling [mailto:s...@elego.de] > > >> [Detaching of subdirectories of working copies] > > > Honestly, we simply don't know how many peop

Re: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:37:36AM +0200, Markus Schaber wrote: > Hi, Stefan, > > Von: Stefan Sperling [mailto:s...@elego.de] > >> [Detaching of subdirectories of working copies] > > Honestly, we simply don't know how many people need this. > > Strictly speaking, it is not "needed" by anyone - o

Re: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 09:03:05AM +0200, Thorsten Schöning wrote: > Guten Tag Stefan Sperling, > am Montag, 25. Juli 2011 um 00:22 schrieben Sie: > > > http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2884 > > As the target of this enhancement is 1.8-consider and the last comment > questions

Re: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-25 Thread Thorsten Schöning
Guten Tag Stefan Sperling, am Montag, 25. Juli 2011 um 00:22 schrieben Sie: > http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2884 As the target of this enhancement is 1.8-consider and the last comment questions the need of this features in general, should one vote for the enhancement? Or is

Re: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-24 Thread Daniel Shahaf
CC += dev@ Ryan Schmidt wrote on Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 17:08:14 -0500: > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 16:57, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > > Ryan Brothers wrote on Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 17:42:43 -0400: > >> Is there a way to create a new top-level checkout of a subdirectory > >> with the 1.7 working copy form

Re: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-24 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 05:08:14PM -0500, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 16:57, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > > Ryan Brothers wrote on Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 17:42:43 -0400: > >> Is there a way to create a new top-level checkout of a subdirectory > >> with the 1.7 working copy format? > >

Re: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jul 24, 2011, at 16:57, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Ryan Brothers wrote on Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 17:42:43 -0400: >> Is there a way to create a new top-level checkout of a subdirectory >> with the 1.7 working copy format? > > Just copying a dir isn't supported. It worked fine in 1.6.x and earlier.

Re: copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-24 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Ryan Brothers wrote on Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 17:42:43 -0400: > Is there a way to create a new top-level checkout of a subdirectory > with the 1.7 working copy format? Just copying a dir isn't supported. (the plan has been to provide a new subcommand for that, but that won't happen before 1.8) You

copying subdirectories in subversion 1.7

2011-07-24 Thread Ryan Brothers
I just tried out the new Subversion 1.7 beta today and had a question regarding the new working copy format: With the Subversion 1.6 working copy format, since a .svn directory was in every directory, I would sometimes take advantage of the fact that a subdirectory could be copied out of a che