Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-14 Thread John G. Weed
and where should the check be sent? >> > >> > -- Chris >> > >> > - Original Message - >> > From: Geertjan Wielenga >> > To: Chris Olsen >> > Cc: Emilian Bold , John Mc >> > , Netbeans Mailing List >

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
ld the check be sent? > > > > -- Chris > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Geertjan Wielenga > > To: Chris Olsen > > Cc: Emilian Bold , John Mc > > , Netbeans Mailing List > > , Paul Szudzik , > > Robert Erdt , Thomas Wolf , >

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-14 Thread bmelendez
zudzik , > Robert Erdt , Thomas Wolf , > bmelen...@hemstech.com > Sent: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:22:45 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: Statement of disappointment > > Sure! If you’re not willing/able to participate in NetCAT yourself: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/di

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-13 Thread Chris Olsen
, 13 Mar 2020 15:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Statement of disappointment Sure! If you’re not willing/able to participate in NetCAT yourself: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+12.0 ...would you be interested in sponsoring others to do so, at say $50 per person per NetCAT

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-13 Thread Chris Olsen
- Original Message - From: Geertjan Wielenga To: Chris Olsen Cc: Emilian Bold , John Mc , Netbeans Mailing List , Paul Szudzik , Robert Erdt , Thomas Wolf , bmelen...@hemstech.com Sent: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Statement of disappointment Sure! If you’re

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-13 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
; Best regards, > >> > Tom > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 3:22 PM Geertjan Wielenga < > geert...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > > >> > Sure! If you’re not willing/able to participate i

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-13 Thread Emilian Bold
;> > >> > >> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 3:22 PM Geertjan Wielenga >> > wrote: >> > >> > Sure! If you’re not willing/able to participate in NetCAT yourself: >> > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+12.0 >

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-13 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
effecting me. If and when I do I will hopefully try to > address them, like I have tried to in the past. > > > > > > The way I see it, if we could find out what exactly is blocking people > from moving to 11.3/12, and then if they can spend even a small amount of > time/effor

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-13 Thread Emilian Bold
n wrote: > > Thomas and All -- > >Mine is much the same story. Would there be some way to contribute $$$ > (or, in my case, $$) to the team meaningfully? > > -- Chris > > ----- Original Message - > From: Thomas Wolf > To: John Mc > Cc: Robert Erdt , bm

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-13 Thread John G. Weed
ngfully? >>> >>> -- Chris >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Thomas Wolf >>> To: John Mc >>> Cc: Robert Erdt , bmelen...@hemstech.com, Geertjan >>> Wielenga , Emilian Bold , Paul >>> Szudz

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-13 Thread Thomas Wolf
n >> Wielenga , Emilian Bold , >> Paul Szudzik , Netbeans Mailing List < >> users@netbeans.apache.org> >> Sent: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:10:11 -0400 (EDT) >> Subject: Re: Statement of disappointment >> >> My $.02, >> I’ve been benefitting from NB

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-13 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
om, Geertjan > Wielenga , Emilian Bold , > Paul Szudzik , Netbeans Mailing List < > users@netbeans.apache.org> > Sent: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:10:11 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: Statement of disappointment > > My $.02, > I’ve been benefitting from NB since I moved over

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-13 Thread Chris Olsen
Szudzik , Netbeans Mailing List Sent: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Statement of disappointment My $.02, I’ve been benefitting from NB since I moved over from Visual Cafe in 1999 (to give you an idea of what a Java dinosaur I am). And my only contributions in 2+ decades

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-13 Thread Thomas Wolf
worth paying for >> >> I am with Bill, I have not upgraded and I am at 9 similar to 8. >> >> Rob >> >> -Original Message- >> From: bmelen...@hemstech.com [mailto:bmelen...@hemstech.com] >> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 9:30 AM >>

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-13 Thread John Mc
: Friday, March 13, 2020 9:30 AM > To: Geertjan Wielenga > Cc: Emilian Bold ; Paul Szudzik < > pszud...@throwarock.com>; Netbeans Mailing List > > Subject: Re: Statement of disappointment > > All: > > Been reading all the emails on the NB migration. I do JAVA on NB 8.0

RE: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-13 Thread Robert Erdt
; Netbeans Mailing List Subject: Re: Statement of disappointment All: Been reading all the emails on the NB migration. I do JAVA on NB 8.0.2 platform and have not upgraded due to the issues being address. I do okay with the NB 8. If this is so critical for getting program done for clients, then one

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-13 Thread bmelendez
All: Been reading all the emails on the NB migration. I do JAVA on NB 8.0.2 platform and have not upgraded due to the issues being address. I do okay with the NB 8. If this is so critical for getting program done for clients, then one should be willing to pay for the platform. See it as a business

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-13 Thread bmelendez
All: Been reading all the emails on the NB migration. I do JAVA on NB 8.0.2 platform and have not upgraded due to the issues being address. I do okay with the NB 8. If this is so critical for getting program done for clients, then one should be willing to pay for the platform. See it as a business

Re: Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-10 Thread Bradley Willcott
I wish to make one final offering here.  I have found that looking at a working project has helped me to understand how things should be. Therefore, if you are interested, go have a look at one of my open source projects: Markdownj CLI You will fi

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Did my best to help — received a ZIP file with a bunch of Java files and images, no NetBeans project at all. I think a key lesson in this thread is: (1) please start a new thread for each problem you have, (2) please don’t send generic rants because (a) you yourself can probably express your probl

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I have a strong suspicion that the image files are not actually in the project, instead, they are somewhere outside of it. I’m happy to spend time investigating the code, though let’s just note that all this has nothing at all to do with this thread — a few basic Java tutorials should be followed,

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-10 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 3/10/20 7:47 AM, Judi Rastall wrote: > I have been doing some digging around and the first line where an image > is called is the line identified as giving the error. However, this is > part of the code generated by Netbeans when I created the panel using > the design feature in Netbeans. In oth

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Just send it to my e-mail address and I’ll try to help: geert...@apache.org Make sure the whole project is in a ZIP file, but before you create the ZIP file, please delete the “build” folder. Gj On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 14:02, Judi Rastall wrote: > Netbeans gives a warning to not try and change

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-10 Thread Judi Rastall
Netbeans gives a warning to not try and change the code it generates and says that it will change it back the next time I run or build the file. Someone did suggest loading my project into github. I have heard of github but have no idea of how to use it or load stuff into it. I guess this maili

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
We’d love to help you and, yes, you can indeed change code that NetBeans generates. Can you help us to help you — put your code somewhere so that we can look at it? Gj On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 13:48, Judi Rastall wrote: > I have been doing some digging around and the first line where an image is

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-10 Thread Judi Rastall
I have been doing some digging around and the first line where an image is called is the line identified as giving the error. However, this is part of the code generated by Netbeans when I created the panel using the design feature in Netbeans. In other words, I cannot alter it! Netbeans knows

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-09 Thread Zahid Rahman
https://www.javacodegeeks.com/2020/03/new-features-between-java-8-and-java-14.html On Mon, 9 Mar 2020, 19:43 Ty Young, wrote: > > On 3/9/20 1:08 PM, Neil C Smith wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 15:16, Paul Szudzik > wrote: > >> I see streams of notes that are asking questions about > comp

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-09 Thread Ty Young
On 3/9/20 1:08 PM, Neil C Smith wrote: On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 15:16, Paul Szudzik wrote: I see streams of notes that are asking questions about compatibility. ( The latest straw is the Ant image ... ) I see how once the major players in NetBeans get on a wagon, the trail off is almost

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-09 Thread Don
I agree.  I have been using NetBeans since it was called Forte and both it and Java were owned and managed by Sun.  I think I was up to version 8.2 when management switched to Apache and a LOT of things changed.  At the same time, almost all of the Swing apps I had produced with earlier version

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-09 Thread Neil C Smith
On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 17:58, Judi Rastall wrote: > Trying to run from the CMD prompt, I see this error message: > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException > at javax.swing.ImageIcon.(Unknown Source) ... > Why will a program that runs perfectly well within the IDE fail to r

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-09 Thread Neil C Smith
On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 15:16, Paul Szudzik wrote: > I see streams of notes that are asking questions about compatibility. ( > The latest straw is the Ant image ... ) I see how once the major players in > NetBeans get on a wagon, the trail off is almost impossible. If you’re new > to NetBe

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
We'd be happy to help. Maybe one way would be to work on the code together, i.e., if you have/create an account (assuming you don't have one yet) on GitHub ( https://github.com/) and then put your whole application there, others (me for sure) will be happy to take a look at it. Gj On Mon, Mar 9,

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-09 Thread Judi Rastall
Maybe I'm trying to run before I can walk but I have set myself the target of rewriting a program I've inherited in Delphi into Java because I want to offer the program to run on any platform. So far I have written a splash screen with two buttons - Go and Quit. This then loads a menu bar which

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-09 Thread Alonso Del Arte
For what it's worth, I've had problems switching from 8 to 11, too. But they've been minor glitches. But I barely know JavaFX and I don't use it at all, I've been quite satisfied with AWT/Swing for my purposes. I've used Eclipse and found it lacking. IntelliJ's good, but I don't need an IDE to auto

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-09 Thread Chuck Davis
Paul, many of us "feel your pain" with what Oracle did to JavaFX. But all is not lost. Take a look here: http://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/java/ Scroll down to the JavaFX section and click on the first item. You will see how completely easy it is to develop JavaFX with Netbeans and Maven. Of

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Give us some idea of what the problems are, and maybe we can help? Gj On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:07 PM Judi Rastall wrote: > I have to admit I'm on the point of giving up with Netbeans 11. Programs > that used to compile quite happily with V8 no longer compile. I am using > images in a subdirecto

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-09 Thread Judi Rastall
I have to admit I'm on the point of giving up with Netbeans 11. Programs that used to compile quite happily with V8 no longer compile. I am using images in a subdirectory and the V11 compiler cannot find them so I get null exceptions and it sulks. Judi On 09/03/2020 15:52, Chris Olsen wrote:

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-09 Thread Chris Olsen
Paul (and All) -- As they say, "I feel your pain!" The removal of FX was a pain in the behind for me also, and I am also moving over to Maven from Ant. I am a complete amateur (though experienced, Java is about my 5th language.) Much of the more technical discussions among Java develop

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Indeed, I think the approach Emilian suggests is the way to go. And, indeed, if you don't want to or have the time to move to Maven of Gradle, then a lot of modern options start closing off to you. But, on a different level, for a lot of users of NetBeans, the chickens have come home to roost: a f

Re: Statement of disappointment

2020-03-09 Thread Emilian Bold
Go and pick Azul Zulu' JDK FX package which comes bundles with JavaFX: https://www.azul.com/downloads/zulu-community/?&architecture=x86-64-bit&package=jdk-fx I used it for an older Platform app where I don't feel like configuring the FX mumbo jumbo. I doubt anybody can make a magic transition too