Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-09-28 Thread Scott Palmer
I respect their efforts and what they accomplished, but I disagree entirely with their approach if your intent is to develop native windows code. It is primarily useful for academic purposes. It is an incompatible system that exists in a parallel universe. Anyway my point was to express the

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-09-28 Thread Peter Kovacs
This kind of picking winners has no place in the ASF. Don't get me wrong I would like to see a better integration within windows. OpenOffice build environment is very awkward in windows. But please Fokus on the integration and not on history you seem at least not to care about, or you do not kn

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-09-27 Thread Alonso Del Arte
Ah yes, MinGW, I remember now. It would have been a lot more overhead than Cygwin and at the time I just wanted to do a few simple command line applications. I was thinking about native Windows applications but I didn't get past the research stage. Thank you very much for elaborating. On Fri, Sep

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-09-27 Thread Scott Palmer
The other option is MinGW, both it and Cygwin are *NEVER* used by professional developers on Windows. They don’t work with the Windows SDK but instead attempt to supply their own version of Windows header files. Both options rely on awkward hacks to make Windows appear to have some more unix-li

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-09-27 Thread Alonso Del Arte
Scott wrote: > Existing NetBeans C/C++ support on Windows is not very practical. Bordering on almost unusable actually. (It requires use of a toolset that is virtually never used on Windows for native development, is incompatible with Windows SDKs, and difficult to maintain and configure.) For w

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-09-27 Thread Scott Palmer
Would be great to see C/C++ support via Gradle’s 'cpp-library’ plugin. A smooth Java + JNI project setup would be welcome along with it. Existing NetBeans C/C++ support on Windows is not very practical. Bordering on almost unusable actually. (It requires use of a toolset that is virtually n

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-09-27 Thread Peter Kovacs
Donation in this context means Oracle donation of code to the ASF. (and not money) Maybe that provides more sense to GJ comment. ;) Am 27. September 2019 10:25:35 MESZ schrieb Geertjan Wielenga : >Yes, that is called the Apache Software Foundation. > >Gj > >On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 09:24, Ulf Z

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-09-27 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, that is called the Apache Software Foundation. Gj On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 09:24, Ulf Zibis wrote: > > Am 26.09.19 um 23:02 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > > I do not understand the question. Can you elaborate? > > My understanding of "donation" was, that there is a kind of crowdfunding > to support

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-09-27 Thread Ulf Zibis
Am 26.09.19 um 23:02 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > I do not understand the question. Can you elaborate? My understanding of "donation" was, that there is a kind of crowdfunding to support the C/C++ plugin. -Ulf - To unsubscribe, e

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-09-26 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, final stages of that part of the donation, things looking good, great to keep seeing interest in these parts of NetBeans, and it's moving along though not quite here yet. Gj On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:03 PM Peter Kovacs wrote: > I do not understand the question. Can you elaborate? > > I un

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-09-26 Thread Peter Kovacs
I do not understand the question. Can you elaborate? I understand that the Donation of the c++ plugin from Oracle to Apache Netbeans has been delayed. Last status report to this topic suggests that Oracle Lawyers are still reviewing. (As far as I remember the Information has been that this is wha

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-09-26 Thread Ulf Zibis
Thanks Alonso, but save your effort. The plugin from 8.2 works so far with 11.1, but I'm longing for a new updated version. -Ulf Am 26.09.19 um 22:37 schrieb Alonso Del Arte: > (off-list) Huh... I have at least one C++ project in NetBeans 8.2. I'm > going to have to check if I can open it in 11.

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-09-26 Thread Ulf Zibis
Am 26.09.19 um 22:42 schrieb Neil C Smith: > > The donation didn't make it by the 11.2 feature freeze date. Where is the home for the donations? -Ulf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additio

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-09-26 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019, 21:17 Ulf Zibis, wrote: > I've seen, that the C/C++ inclusion has been removed from the release plan. > So now, what is the future of C/C++ inclusion in NetBeans IDE? > The donation didn't make it by the 11.2 feature freeze date. Hopefully it won't be long now and can be int

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-09-26 Thread Ulf Zibis
Hi Geertjan, I've seen, that the C/C++ inclusion has been removed from the release plan. So now, what is the future of C/C++ inclusion in NetBeans IDE? -Ulf Am 09.05.19 um 05:07 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga: > Here's the roadmap, C/C++ inclusion is scheduled for September: > > https://cwiki.apache.

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-05-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
elenga > Date : 09/05/2019 05:07 (GMT+01:00) > À : Emilian Bold > Cc : Koos du Preez , NetBeans Mailing < > users@netbeans.apache.org> > Objet : Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++ > > Here's the roadmap, C/C++ inclusion is scheduled for September: > > >

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-05-08 Thread Richard Grin
: Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++ Here's the roadmap, C/C++ inclusion is scheduled for September: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap Thanks, Gj On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 12:56 AM Emilian Bold mailto:emilian.b...@gmail.com>> wrote: &g

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-05-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Here's the roadmap, C/C++ inclusion is scheduled for September: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap Thanks, Gj On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 12:56 AM Emilian Bold wrote: > > 1 Does NB11 also include C++ projects (I only saw Java, PHP and couple > othe

Re: Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-05-08 Thread Emilian Bold
> 1 Does NB11 also include C++ projects (I only saw Java, PHP and couple other > web based types) No. I suspect the next release will include the C++ projects. In the meantime you can try CoolBeans ( https://coolbeans.xyz ) which does compile the C++ modules. > 3 Does NB11 support C++17 ? I su

Question on Netbeans 11 and C++

2019-05-08 Thread Koos du Preez
We are using Netbeans 8.2 extensively for cross platform C++ development and I was curious with Netbeans 11 release, I have the following questions 1 Does NB11 also include C++ projects (I only saw Java, PHP and couple other web based types) 2 Can you upgrade NB8.2 projects to NB11 ? 3 Does NB11