Re: Plug-in support and compatibility suggestion

2018-08-07 Thread Will Hartung
I mis-replied this before, so resending it. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > Beansbinding can be brought back easily. We have the existing code > service-based, we only have to put the GPL w/ CPE plugin somewhere online > and suggest it to users, just like we suggest nb-java

Re: Plug-in support and compatibility suggestion

2018-08-07 Thread Emilian Bold
Beansbinding can be brought back easily. We have the existing code service-based, we only have to put the GPL w/ CPE plugin somewhere online and suggest it to users, just like we suggest nb-javac. --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 7 August 2018 6:56 PM, Oliver Rettig wrote: > Hi, > >

Re: Plug-in support and compatibility suggestion

2018-08-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yup, makes sense and is sorely needed, would be great to have a page where these can be documented and referenced. Another one is Hibernate. We'd refer to the PRs that are relevant, the mailing list threads that relate, etc. Gj On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 5:56 PM, Oliver Rettig wrote: > Hi, > > >

Re: Plug-in support and compatibility suggestion

2018-08-07 Thread Oliver Rettig
Hi, Can we establish a page in the wiki with the problematic libraries: org.jdesktop.beansbinding org.jdesktop.swingx javahelp Are there others? What is to do? How can the functionality in the first two be substituted? What can we do to substitute javahelp. best regards Oliver > The owner is

Re: Plug-in support and compatibility suggestion

2018-08-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I see two QuickOpener plugins: http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/43217/quickopener http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/62668/quickopener Which of these, or another one, is being referred to in this thread? To fix the problem described in the thread, send a PR to the GitHub repo of the plugin you'

Re: Plug-in support and compatibility suggestion

2018-08-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Not sure I understand fully, but isn't what you describe already the case? Backward compatibility is one of the key aspects of NetBeans going many years back now. Gj On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 8:58 AM, * William wrote: > > Thank you Geertjan, > > I understand the licienseing point -- Yes in that sp

Fwd: Plug-in support and compatibility suggestion

2018-08-06 Thread * William
Thank you Geertjan, I understand the licienseing point -- Yes in that specific case, yes the plugin needs to be compatible. I am unconcerned about specific missing plugins. I had hoped my point was clear enough as this is something that applies to a Great Many products that use "plug-in" and "ad

Re: Plug-in support and compatibility suggestion

2018-08-03 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
The owner is Oracle. And the JSR for BeansBinding is dead. And that is not my point — my point is that any plugin using that JAR needs to be rewritten to not use it. Gj On Friday, August 3, 2018, Boris Heithecker wrote: > Hi, > does anybody know who's the owner of org.jdesktop.beansbinding? W

Re: Plug-in support and compatibility suggestion

2018-08-03 Thread Boris Heithecker
Hi, does anybody know who's the owner of org.jdesktop.beansbinding? Whom should I contact? Is the license really GPL, or LGPL? Same question applies to org.jdesktop.swingx: GPL oder LGPL? Who's the owner? Havn't found any robust information about these libraries so far. Am I allowed to ship them wi

Re: Plug-in support and compatibility suggestion

2018-08-03 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I would recommend to fix the sources of the plugin so that this library isn't used there. Gj On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Eduard wrote: > So it appears that in this case there exists a one-off reason for the > incompatibility. > > As a heavy user of QuickOpener I'd need a solution that mak

Re: Plug-in support and compatibility suggestion

2018-08-03 Thread Eduard
So it appears that in this case there exists a one-off reason for the incompatibility. As a heavy user of QuickOpener I'd need a solution that makes it work. It did so in the RC1. That suggests I could just use the or.opendesktop jar from the RC1 and add it to Netbeans. 9.0. Is there anything

Re: Plug-in support and compatibility suggestion

2018-08-03 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
And the solution is to get hold of the owners of the plugins that do not work with 9.0 and ask them/work with them to make them compatible with 9.0. Gj On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > The problems are a bit more complex than how you

Re: Plug-in support and compatibility suggestion

2018-08-03 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
The problems are a bit more complex than how you describe them, in the case of Apache NetBeans. Take for example 'org.jdesktop.beansbinding'. This is a library that has been part of NetBeans for many years. And it's been used by a variety of plugins as well, such as some of those you seem to be t

Plug-in support and compatibility suggestion

2018-08-03 Thread * William
Hello all... I have an interesting general for platforms supporting: extras, macros, add-ons, plug-ins, extensions, themes, what have you. For this post, I'll jsut use "plug-in" as a *generic* term meaning all things you can add/theme, etc. *use-case:* I've faced the same situation on many pla