RE: With JDK 17, Oracle moves back to a free license

2021-09-14 Thread Rob Walker
Agreed – also how I read it For any vendor working around Java, this doesn’t really change much. You cannot bundle in an app you charge for, or use as part of a service you charge for. At first, I though this might just be if you try to charge a fee for the JDK part itself. But the wording seem

Re: With JDK 17, Oracle moves back to a free license

2021-09-14 Thread Emilian Bold
Indeed, there is no reason to switch back to Oracle JDK unless you want legal ambiguities. There are many JDK vendors/builds now, the Oracle build doesn't have anything fancy, they themselves tried very hard to kill it and now want back into the spotlight. I don't think it works that way and I can'

Re: With JDK 17, Oracle moves back to a free license

2021-09-14 Thread Scott Palmer
That says for a year after the *NEXT* LTS release, so not until a year from now. That should mean a year after JDK 21 is released in 2023, so freely supported for 3 years from now. I’ve been using Azul builds these days anyway, since they make a JDK with Java FX included. Scott > On Sep 14

Re: With JDK 17, Oracle moves back to a free license

2021-09-14 Thread Andreas Reichel
All, in my opinion, even if Oracle changed the terms and meant it (which would be welcome of course) -- there won't be a guarantee, that they will flip-flop again after a new lawyer/COO/whatever arrived. Any corporate's worst nightmare is to a java stack running, which is suddenly affected by suc

Re: With JDK 17, Oracle moves back to a free license

2021-09-14 Thread Raul Cosio
Thanks Will, interesting reading but I still don't get it. Comments from the group are welcome. I've read the license many times but it doesn't look clear to me, the license says that It grants to you, a limited license to internally use the unmodified programs for the purposes of "developing, test

Re: With JDK 17, Oracle moves back to a free license

2021-09-14 Thread Will Hartung
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 10:40 AM Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > >- >- “Oracle will provide these free releases and updates starting with Oracle >JDK 17 and continue for one full >year after the next LTS release

Re: With JDK 17, Oracle moves back to a free license

2021-09-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
- - “Oracle will provide these free releases and updates starting with Oracle JDK 17 and continue for one full year after the next LTS release . Prior versions are n

With JDK 17, Oracle moves back to a free license

2021-09-14 Thread Will Hartung
JDK 17 is out. And there was this interesting development. https://blogs.oracle.com/java/post/free-java-license Top two bullet points: + Oracle is making the industry leading Oracle JDK available for free, including all quarterly security updates. This includes commercial and production use.

Unable to add Persistence 3.0 provider

2021-09-14 Thread Claudia Pastor Ramirez
Hello everyone, First of all, thank you for your work on the IDE and your support on this concrete matter. The problem I currently have is that I am trying to add a new persistence provider for the 3.0 Persistence API, but the IDE seems to be unable to recognise the libraries as valid. I have tri