Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Yeah, bad timing, 12.0 LTS will come out with 6.3 and the next day users would pounding for 6.4 support with JPMS... On 4/23/20 2:47 PM, Scott Palmer wrote: On Apr 23, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Ty Young > wrote: I tried converting an modular Ant project to Gradle once

Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Scott Palmer
> On Apr 23, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Ty Young wrote: > I tried converting an modular Ant project to Gradle once and I could never > figure it out(this was early days when Modules where still new). learning an > entire language just to build is a bit much, so I was relying on IDE support. > Maven wa

Re: Maven JavaFX based project does not run due to nonvisible runtime

2020-04-23 Thread Ty Young
On 4/23/20 2:50 PM, Ty Young wrote: I am using Netbeans 12-3. Even with the Maven JavaFX template it fails. Corrections: template works but copy/pasting the same plugins/nbactions into the JavaFX application(not JavaFX template) fails. I'd rebase on the JavaFX template but the ability to

Re: Maven JavaFX based project does not run due to nonvisible runtime

2020-04-23 Thread Ty Young
I am using Netbeans 12-3. Even with the Maven JavaFX template it fails. On 4/23/20 2:45 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: The Gluon OpenJFX projects run out of the box from 12.0 onwards, Beta 3 is available already. In 11.3, you need to tweak the nbactions.xml file as explained at openjfx.io

Re: Maven JavaFX based project does not run due to nonvisible runtime

2020-04-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/NetBeans/job/ netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release120/12/artifact/dist/netbeans/ On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:45 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > The Gluon OpenJFX projects run out of the box from 12.0 onwards, Beta 3 is > available already. > > In 11.3, you n

Re: Maven JavaFX based project does not run due to nonvisible runtime

2020-04-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
The Gluon OpenJFX projects run out of the box from 12.0 onwards, Beta 3 is available already. In 11.3, you need to tweak the nbactions.xml file as explained at openjfx.io -- but best would be to give Beta 3 a try. Gj On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:42 PM Ty Young wrote: > Issue: > > https://issues.

Maven JavaFX based project does not run due to nonvisible runtime

2020-04-23 Thread Ty Young
Issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-4234?filter=allopenissues In addition, Netbeans doesn't allow editing of runtime arguments if manually edited or worse, generate by Netbeans itself using the JavaFX Maven template. -

Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Ty Young
On 4/23/20 2:10 PM, Neil C Smith wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2020, 19:28 Scott Palmer, > wrote: +1  If you aren’t already using Maven, skip it. Gradle will also be somewhat of a “do it yourself” approach, but in the long run it will be easier to manage than M

Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020, 19:28 Scott Palmer, wrote: > +1 If you aren’t already using Maven, skip it. Gradle will also be > somewhat of a “do it yourself” approach, but in the long run it will be > easier to manage than Maven and worth learning. > "Gradle is for Ant developers that don't understand

Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Scott Palmer
+1 If you aren’t already using Maven, skip it. Gradle will also be somewhat of a “do it yourself” approach, but in the long run it will be easier to manage than Maven and worth learning. You won’t get the same level of IDE support because Gradle build scripts are too easy to customize in ways

Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Alan
On 2020-04-23 13:27, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Filing an issue is always the starting point, never the end point of your involvement. In open source projects, you can't file an issue and then walk away and hope someone will turn up to fix it. You need to motivate others to fix it or fix it yours

Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Telling the truth it ie easier to convert an Ant project to Gradle than Ant. But there is no such a conversion tool yet. Probably won't be ever. On 4/23/20 10:57 AM, Ty Young wrote: Anyway, is there any way currently or maybe in the future that can easily convert Ant based projects t

Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Ty Young
Anyway, is there any way currently or maybe in the future that can easily convert Ant based projects to Maven? Start by creating a Maven project and then copy and paste the packages from your Ant-based project to packages in your Maven-based project. That should get you very far. Tho

Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
> > It's disappointing to see a issue tagged wontfix / closed without even a > comment years after it was filed. Filing an issue is always the starting point, never the end point of your involvement. In open source projects, you can't file an issue and then walk away and hope someone will turn up

Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Ty Young
On 4/23/20 12:11 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: You'll only get love and respect from us. File those issues and fight for them on the mailing lists. :-) If I joined any more mailing lists I think my inbox will implode! Anyway, is there any way currently or maybe in the future that can easil

Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Alan
I have to say that although I don't have the Java required to make much of a contribution in the way of code, when I do find a project I'd like to work on, those pages of open bugs are the first place I look for some way to get up to speed on contributing. They might look like they're being ign

Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
You'll only get love and respect from us. File those issues and fight for them on the mailing lists. :-) Gj On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 7:08 PM Ty Young wrote: > > On 4/23/20 12:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > > It's pretty good for you that the people working hard on this project > don't have

Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Ty Young
On 4/23/20 12:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: It's pretty good for you that the people working hard on this project don't have the opinion of you that you have of us. :-) No offense meant! I've just had some very bad experiences with many different open source projects.  I've reported arou

Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
It's pretty good for you that the people working hard on this project don't have the opinion of you that you have of us. :-) Have a nice day. :-) Gj On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ty Young wrote: > > On 4/23/20 11:33 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > Guess it's time to file an issue. :-) > >

Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Ty Young
On 4/23/20 11:33 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Guess it's time to file an issue. :-) Here's where you do that: https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS I'll be honest, unless I'm confident that someone is actually going to fix the bug I don't usually report them. It's not worth my ti

Re: PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Guess it's time to file an issue. :-) Here's where you do that: https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS Gj On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:31 PM Ty Young wrote: > Bit of a PSA for those that don't build the in-development(15, right > now) from source, Modular Ant based projects WILL NOT com

PSA: Modular Ant based projects no longer build on latest JDK builds

2020-04-23 Thread Ty Young
Bit of a PSA for those that don't build the in-development(15, right now) from source, Modular Ant based projects WILL NOT compile, failing on: Unable to create javax script engine for javascript which then points to: xmlns:j2semodularproject1="http://www.netbeans.org/ns/j2se-modular-projec

Re: Problems with Consolas font in NetBeans and Windows 10

2020-04-23 Thread Eric J. Schwarzenbach
FWIW, the open source font Inconsolata is very similar to Consolas. If you end up needing a workaround. On 4/22/20 7:54 AM, Thomas Kellerer wrote: Hello, I am using the (built-in) Consolas font for editing in NetBeans (and all other code editors actually). It seems that the line height in t