Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 17:19:34 +1030 Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 10 February 2016, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > > I prefer to type less rather than more :-) > > Groan... > Thanks for the hint. I missed it the first time through, and got a chuckle out of it this time. -- users mailing

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 11 February 2016 at 18:33, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 02/11/2016 05:41 AM, Ian Malone wrote: >> >> On 10 February 2016 at 23:22, jd1008 wrote: >>> >>> >>> I am sorry to burst the bubble that was perpetrated by Sun Microsystems. >>> I worked at Sun Microsystems as a contractor and talked to a very

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/11/2016 05:41 AM, Ian Malone wrote: On 10 February 2016 at 23:22, jd1008 wrote: I am sorry to burst the bubble that was perpetrated by Sun Microsystems. I worked at Sun Microsystems as a contractor and talked to a very senior developer at Menlo Park. I knew this developer from working

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/11/2016 02:42 AM, James Hogarth wrote: On 11 February 2016 at 06:48, Tim > wrote: Allegedly, on or about 10 February 2016, jd1008 sent: > I am sorry to burst the bubble that was perpetrated by Sun > Microsystems. I worked at Sun Microsy

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 10 February 2016 at 23:22, jd1008 wrote: > > > I am sorry to burst the bubble that was perpetrated by Sun Microsystems. > I worked at Sun Microsystems as a contractor and talked to a very senior > developer at Menlo Park. I knew this developer from working with him in > a previous company. Und

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On Thu, 2016-02-11 at 09:42 +, James Hogarth wrote: > On 11 February 2016 at 06:48, Tim > wrote: > > > Allegedly, on or about 10 February 2016, jd1008 sent: > > > I am sorry to burst the bubble that was perpetrated by Sun > > > Microsystems. I worked at Sun Microsystems as a contractor and >

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On Thu, 2016-02-11 at 17:19 +1030, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 10 February 2016, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > > I prefer to type less rather than more :-)  > > Groan... That came out funnier than I intended :-) poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or cha

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 11 February 2016 at 06:48, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 10 February 2016, jd1008 sent: > > I am sorry to burst the bubble that was perpetrated by Sun > > Microsystems. I worked at Sun Microsystems as a contractor and talked > > to a very senior developer at Menlo Park. I knew this devel

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

Allegedly, on or about 10 February 2016, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > I prefer to type less rather than more :-) Groan... -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, ther

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

Allegedly, on or about 10 February 2016, jd1008 sent: > I am sorry to burst the bubble that was perpetrated by Sun > Microsystems. I worked at Sun Microsystems as a contractor and talked > to a very senior developer at Menlo Park. I knew this developer from > working with him in a previous company.

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/10/2016 08:13 PM, Joseph Loo wrote: I am a little late in the discussion. Is your username in the wheel group? Mine isn't because I don't use sudo. The original poster of this thread is in the wheel group, I believe. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/10/2016 08:48 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/10/2016 04:53 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Surely this takes substantially more time than sudo? >> Presumably you have to give the argument in quotes, >> and then give the password? >> > > So? Time is not everything, and being retired, I have all th

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/10/2016 02:45 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2016-02-10 at 10:53 -0700, jd1008 wrote: On 02/10/2016 10:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2016-02-10 at 10:17 -0700, jd1008 wrote: A malefic website can and does user JS to fork out processes that can sudo whatever they wan

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On Wed, 2016-02-10 at 10:53 -0700, jd1008 wrote: > > On 02/10/2016 10:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2016-02-10 at 10:17 -0700, jd1008 wrote: > > > A malefic website can and does user JS to fork out processes that > > > can > > > sudo whatever they want. > > Are you sure? If so, ple

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/10/2016 11:31 AM, Tom H wrote: Your malefic JS will still need the user's password to run "sudo some_command". Not if you've set sudo up not to need a password. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/10/2016 11:28 AM, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:24:44 +0100 Tom H wrote: root's presumably disabled on the OP's box so rather than change this setup, the OP should run "visudo -f /etc/sudoers.d/maitra" after "chroot /fedora" (

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:17 PM, jd1008 wrote: > On 02/10/2016 08:24 AM, Tom H wrote: >> >> root's presumably disabled on the OP's box so rather than change this >> setup, the OP should run "visudo -f /etc/sudoers.d/maitra" after >> "chroot /fedora" (or "systemd-nspawn -D /fedora") to create the >

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:24:44 +0100 Tom H wrote: >> >> root's presumably disabled on the OP's box so rather than change this >> setup, the OP should run "visudo -f /etc/sudoers.d/maitra" after >> "chroot /fedora" (or "systemd-nspawn -D /fedor

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/10/2016 10:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2016-02-10 at 10:17 -0700, jd1008 wrote: A malefic website can and does user JS to fork out processes that can sudo whatever they want. Are you sure? If so, please give a reference. poc Some years ago, the reference came directly fro

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On Wed, 2016-02-10 at 10:17 -0700, jd1008 wrote: > A malefic website can and does user JS to fork out processes that can > sudo whatever they want. Are you sure? If so, please give a reference. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/10/2016 08:24 AM, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:02 PM, jd1008 wrote: To the OP of this thread: Why not boot a live CD or DVD Once booted, su - root mkdir /fedora mount /dev/sd ?? /fedora (?? are something like a0 or a1 ...etc ... the name of your hard drive boot partiti

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On Wed, 2016-02-10 at 08:48 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/10/2016 04:53 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Surely this takes substantially more time than sudo? > > Presumably you have to give the argument in quotes, > > and then give the password? > > > > So?  Time is not everything, and being retired

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/10/2016 04:53 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Surely this takes substantially more time than sudo? Presumably you have to give the argument in quotes, and then give the password? So? Time is not everything, and being retired, I have all that I need. And doesn't it give an alternative way fo

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:24:44 +0100 Tom H wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:02 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > > > To the OP of this thread: > > > > Why not > > > > boot a live CD or DVD > > > > Once booted, > > su - root > > > > mkdir /fedora > > mount /dev/sd ?? /fedora (?? are something like a0 or

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:02 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > To the OP of this thread: > > Why not > > boot a live CD or DVD > > Once booted, > su - root > > mkdir /fedora > mount /dev/sd ?? /fedora (?? are something like a0 or a1 ...etc ... the > name of your hard drive boot partition) > > chroot /fedo

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On Wed, 2016-02-10 at 12:53 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Joe Zeff wrote: > > > I, OTOH, find su -c quite satisfactory, TYVM. > > Surely this takes substantially more time than sudo? > Presumably you have to give the argument in quotes, > and then give the password? My thinking exactly. > And

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

Joe Zeff wrote: > I, OTOH, find su -c quite satisfactory, TYVM. Surely this takes substantially more time than sudo? Presumably you have to give the argument in quotes, and then give the password? And doesn't it give an alternative way for the hacker to get the superuser password, eg by key-logg

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On Tue, 2016-02-09 at 14:15 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/09/2016 01:10 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > SUdo is useful even when you do have root. I use it all the time > > because I don't like actually logging in as root if I can avoid it. > > I > > know you can use "su -c bla bla" but sudo is

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/09/2016 01:10 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: SUdo is useful even when you do have root. I use it all the time because I don't like actually logging in as root if I can avoid it. I know you can use "su -c bla bla" but sudo is quicker and easier to remember. I, OTOH, find su -c quite satisf

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On Tue, 2016-02-09 at 08:48 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/09/2016 06:50 AM, SternData wrote: > > You'll need to find that scrap of paper on which you wrote the > > password > > for "root" and put away someplace safe. :-) > > And once you have it, you won't need to bother with sudo any more. SUdo

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/09/2016 09:09 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Thanks to all who replied! As a security feature, I chose not have a root account on the machine (of course, I never expected my sudo access to disappear) and have not had it on any of my machines ever since Fedora allowed that possiblity (circa Fed

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

Thanks to all who replied! As a security feature, I chose not have a root account on the machine (of course, I never expected my sudo access to disappear) and have not had it on any of my machines ever since Fedora allowed that possiblity (circa Fedora-low-teens-or-before). The proposed solutio

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

To the OP of this thread: Why not boot a live CD or DVD Once booted, su - root mkdir /fedora mount /dev/sd ?? /fedora (?? are something like a0 or a1 ...etc ... the name of your hard drive boot partition) chroot /fedora passwd root now you can enter a new password. HTH -- users mai

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/09/2016 06:50 AM, SternData wrote: You'll need to find that scrap of paper on which you wrote the password for "root" and put away someplace safe. :-) And once you have it, you won't need to bother with sudo any more. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or c

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/09/2016 06:19 AM, SternData wrote: run visudo This requires root access, which he doesn't have. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedorapr

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/09/2016 05:52 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Short of reinstalling, how do I get around this? Note that I do not have root account, so I am not sure about what to do. Is this a home box, or work? If it's home, why don't you have root? If it's work, it may be easiest to talk to whoever does

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/09/2016 08:29 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 08:19:24 -0600 SternData > wrote: > >> On 02/09/2016 07:52 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have a strange issue: my machine was updated via cron last noght. I >>> rebooted this morning and several attempts, includin

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 08:19:24 -0600 SternData wrote: > On 02/09/2016 07:52 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have a strange issue: my machine was updated via cron last noght. I > > rebooted this morning and several attempts, including rebooting into the > > older kernel do not seem

Re: sudo disappears after latest update

On 02/09/2016 07:52 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Hello, > > I have a strange issue: my machine was updated via cron last noght. I > rebooted this morning and several attempts, including rebooting into the > older kernel do not seem to work in granting me sudo access. > > ~$ sudo dnf update > [sud

sudo disappears after latest update

Hello, I have a strange issue: my machine was updated via cron last noght. I rebooted this morning and several attempts, including rebooting into the older kernel do not seem to work in granting me sudo access. ~$ sudo dnf update [sudo] password for maitra: maitra is not in the sudoers file.