Re: startx equivalent for Wayland

2023-09-26 Thread Philip Rhoades via users
George, On 2023-09-26 23:45, George N. White III wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 1:13 AM Dave Close wrote: I detest a graphical login and insist on running in multi-user mode (old runlevel 3). To start an X11 session after login, I can use the startx command. But I haven't found an equivalent

Re: startx equivalent for Wayland

2023-09-26 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 1:13 AM Dave Close wrote: > I detest a graphical login and insist on running in multi-user mode > (old runlevel 3). To start an X11 session after login, I can use the > startx command. But I haven't found an equivalent command to start a > Wayland session. > > An old post

Re: multi-user vs graphical mode (was startx equivalent for Wayland)

2023-09-25 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2023-09-25 at 11:18 -0400, John Mellor wrote: > I strongly dislike the make-it-look-like Windows thinking that goes on I right with you on that. I escaped a few years of Windows hell to Linux, because I wanted something better. I get the impression some people just choose it because they

Re: multi-user vs graphical mode (was startx equivalent for Wayland)

2023-09-25 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-09-25 09:39, George N. White III wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 2:34 AM Dave Close wrote: I wrote: > I detest a graphical login and insist on running in multi-user mode > (old runlevel 3). To start an X11 session after login, I can use the > startx command. But I haven'

Re: multi-user vs graphical mode (was startx equivalent for Wayland)

2023-09-25 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 2:34 AM Dave Close wrote: > I wrote: > > > I detest a graphical login and insist on running in multi-user mode > > (old runlevel 3). To start an X11 session after login, I can use the > > startx command. But I haven't found an equivalent command to start a > > Wayland sess

Re: multi-user vs graphical mode (was startx equivalent for Wayland)

2023-09-25 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2023-09-24 at 22:33 -0700, Dave Close wrote: > The principal advantage is that I get to see what the system is doing > during boot and login. I strongly dislike any interface that tries > to make things "simple" by hiding what it does. I don't trust things > that are hidden from view. I de

Re: multi-user vs graphical mode (was startx equivalent for Wayland)

2023-09-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2023-09-24 at 22:33 -0700, Dave Close wrote: > The principal advantage is that I get to see what the system is doing > during boot and login. I strongly dislike any interface that tries > to make things "simple" by hiding what it does. I don't trust things > that are hidden from view. AFAI

Re: multi-user vs graphical mode (was startx equivalent for Wayland)

2023-09-24 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/24/2023 11:33 PM, Dave Close wrote: And I've probably used computers longer than most of us, having started with an IBM 7094 and an 029 keypunch. IBM 1620 mod 2 and 029 keypunch here. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To un

multi-user vs graphical mode (was startx equivalent for Wayland)

2023-09-24 Thread Dave Close
I wrote: > I detest a graphical login and insist on running in multi-user mode > (old runlevel 3). To start an X11 session after login, I can use the > startx command. But I haven't found an equivalent command to start a > Wayland session. Tim via users wrote: >I don't really see the advantage i

Re: startx equivalent for Wayland

2023-09-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 1:04 AM Tim via users wrote: > > On Sun, 2023-09-24 at 21:12 -0700, Dave Close wrote: > > I detest a graphical login and insist on running in multi-user mode > > (old runlevel 3). To start an X11 session after login, I can use the > > startx command. But I haven't found an

Re: startx equivalent for Wayland

2023-09-24 Thread Dave Close
I asked: > I detest a graphical login and insist on running in multi-user mode > (old runlevel 3). To start an X11 session after login, I can use the > startx command. But I haven't found an equivalent command to start a > Wayland session. > > An old post on this list suggests using weston-launch

Re: startx equivalent for Wayland

2023-09-24 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2023-09-24 at 21:12 -0700, Dave Close wrote: > I detest a graphical login and insist on running in multi-user mode > (old runlevel 3). To start an X11 session after login, I can use the > startx command. But I haven't found an equivalent command to start a > Wayland session. I don't really

Re: startx equivalent for Wayland

2023-09-24 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/24/23 21:12, Dave Close wrote: I detest a graphical login and insist on running in multi-user mode (old runlevel 3). To start an X11 session after login, I can use the startx command. But I haven't found an equivalent command to start a Wayland session. An old post on this list suggests usi

startx equivalent for Wayland

2023-09-24 Thread Dave Close
I detest a graphical login and insist on running in multi-user mode (old runlevel 3). To start an X11 session after login, I can use the startx command. But I haven't found an equivalent command to start a Wayland session. An old post on this list suggests using weston-launch. But dnf says there i