Re: [SOLVED FOR REAL:] Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-23 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/21/2012 9:59 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 3/21/2012 4:58 AM, Tim wrote: If a power supply is sagging, other things may have started working, *then* a drive may try starting up, afterwards. This changes the load on the power supply, and the output from a failing power supply may drop (vo

Re: [SORTA SOLVED:] Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-21 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/21/2012 4:58 AM, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 12:59 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: I hadn't thought of the power supply as I assumed that if that were the problem, everything would go down rather than selective components as it got worse and worse. If a power supply is sagging, other

Re: [SORTA SOLVED:] Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-21 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 12:59 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > I hadn't thought of the power supply as I assumed that if that were > the problem, everything would go down rather than selective components > as it got worse and worse. If a power supply is sagging, other things may have started workin

Re: [SORTA SOLVED:] Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/20/2012 3:29 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: If the power supply almost works, you might get a running system by taking something out. Michael: Thanks for the reply. I am going to sheepishly admit that your "obvious suggestion" never crossed my mind. Given I have two cd/dvd drives and tw

Re: [SORTA SOLVED:] Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-20 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012, Paul Allen Newell wrote: I hadn't thought of the power supply as I assumed that if that were the problem, everything would go down rather than selective components as it got worse and worse. Took a look on eBay and pwoer supplies and certainly cheaper than motherboards ---

Re: [SORTA SOLVED:] Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/20/2012 3:05 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 15:17 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Unless someone has a suggestion, I think I'll salvage for parts and let it go at that. Long shot: Power supply going bad, and became insufficient for your hard drives to power up properly? Tim: Tha

Re: [SORTA SOLVED:] Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-20 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 15:17 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Unless someone has a suggestion, I think I'll salvage for parts and > let it go at that. Long shot: Power supply going bad, and became insufficient for your hard drives to power up properly? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-7

[SORTA SOLVED:] Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-19 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/19/2012 6:54 AM, William Hooper wrote: I don't believe anyone has suggested it, but are your sure your hard drive is still functioning? The file you attached doesn't detect any hard disks, just two optical drives: Well, this seems to be it. I found my xw8000 diagnostic cd and it says t

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-19 Thread R. G. Newbury
> Aaron wroteL For what you are doing all you need is a LiveCD and fdisk applied to a unmounted disk. There is a option inn fdisk to clear all partitions from the disk which will leave you in a position to partition the disk from scratch. parted and/or partitionmagic are not needed. I assume that

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-19 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/19/2012 6:54 AM, William Hooper wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: I now have a machine that is "a brick". There is no operating system on it as that got destroyed and any attempts to do a fresh install come back with "No usable disks have been found" and I ca

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-19 Thread William Hooper
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > I now have a machine that is "a brick". There is no operating system on it > as that got destroyed and any attempts to do a fresh install come back with > "No usable disks have been found" and I can't make any progress. Nothing > could be

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-18 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 13:22 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 3/18/2012 12:05 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: > > Paul Allen Newell wrote > > its does the same "No usable disks" > > > > >> > > >> PartedMagic was the one option I asked about in my original email > > and it > > > > >On both the Li

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-18 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/18/2012 12:05 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote its does the same "No usable disks" >> >> PartedMagic was the one option I asked about in my original email and it >On both the LiveCD and the installation DVD troubleshot into a bash shell, I am getting "parted - Invali

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-18 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/18/2012 6:54 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: The program is really fdisk Yeah, man fdisc wasn't getting me anywhere (smile) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http:/

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-18 Thread R. G. Newbury
Paul Allen Newell wrote its does the same "No usable disks" >> >> PartedMagic was the one option I asked about in my original email and it >On both the LiveCD and the installation DVD troubleshot into a bash shell, I am getting "parted - Invalid partition table - recursive partition on /dev

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-18 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 21:45 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 3/17/2012 8:50 PM, Tim wrote: > > On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 18:40 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > >> I now have a machine that is "a brick". There is no operating system > >> on it as that got destroyed and any attempts to do a fresh i

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-18 Thread Timothy Murphy
Paul Allen Newell wrote: =>> IMO, the easiest thing to do would be to boot a LiveCD and use the disk >> tools to examine the partition tables and then to remove them all and >> relabel the disk. > Thanks. Let me create a LiveCD and see what I can do. I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned Knopp

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 11:47 PM, Edward M. wrote: On 03/17/2012 06:40 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: come back with "No usable disks have been found" Have you tried booting to desktop with the livecd and issue 'fdisk -l' as root from the terminal to see if it detects any drives.? Edward: Than

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Edward M .
On 03/17/2012 06:40 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: come back with "No usable disks have been found" Have you tried booting to desktop with the livecd and issue 'fdisk -l' as root from the terminal to see if it detects any drives.? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 11:09 PM, Pete Travis wrote: On Mar 18, 2012 12:04 AM, "Paul Allen Newell" > wrote: > > On 3/17/2012 10:50 PM, Pete Travis wrote: >> >> >> On Mar 17, 2012 11:37 PM, "T.C. Hollingsworth" mailto:tchollingswo...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, Mar 17

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Pete Travis
On Mar 18, 2012 12:04 AM, "Paul Allen Newell" wrote: > > On 3/17/2012 10:50 PM, Pete Travis wrote: >> >> >> On Mar 17, 2012 11:37 PM, "T.C. Hollingsworth" wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> > > On 3/17/2012 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> > >> On 03/18/2

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 10:50 PM, Pete Travis wrote: On Mar 17, 2012 11:37 PM, "T.C. Hollingsworth" mailto:tchollingswo...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Paul Allen Newell mailto:pnew...@cs.cmu.edu>> wrote: > > On 3/17/2012 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 03/18/2012 12:49

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Pete Travis
On Mar 17, 2012 11:37 PM, "T.C. Hollingsworth" wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > On 3/17/2012 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 03/18/2012 12:49 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > >>> > >>> Though I appreciate the suggestion, I can't get any further progress o

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 10:37 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 3/17/2012 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/18/2012 12:49 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Though I appreciate the suggestion, I can't get any further progress once I do the install to ha

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 3/17/2012 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 03/18/2012 12:49 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >>> >>> Though I appreciate the suggestion, I can't get any further progress once >>> I do the >>> install to hard drive option ... its does the

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/18/2012 12:49 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Though I appreciate the suggestion, I can't get any further progress once I do the install to hard drive option ... its does the same "No usable disks" message (and therefore no option to try anything). I

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 8:03 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: I have an install DVD that I used to do a fresh install of F16 onto a i386/686 machine. I then used it to do a fresh install of a second machine. Midway through the formatting/partitioning, it "popped up a bug". When I reported it, it pointed me to 743

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/18/2012 12:49 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Though I appreciate the suggestion, I can't get any further progress once I > do the > install to hard drive option ... its does the same "No usable disks" message > (and > therefore no option to try anything). I don't think I ever suggested do

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 6:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/18/2012 09:40 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: For what it is worth, I used the same DVD and am now doing a fresh install on a third machine. First and third machines are HP x4000 and the second "brick" is HP xw8000. I'm hard-pressed to believe it is a

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 8:50 PM, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 18:40 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: I now have a machine that is "a brick". There is no operating system on it as that got destroyed and any attempts to do a fresh install come back with "No usable disks have been found" and I can't make a

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 18:40 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > I now have a machine that is "a brick". There is no operating system > on it as that got destroyed and any attempts to do a fresh install > come back with "No usable disks have been found" and I can't make any > progress. Is that at a

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread R. G. Newbury
I have an install DVD that I used to do a fresh install of F16 onto a i386/686 machine. I then used it to do a fresh install of a second machine. Midway through the formatting/partitioning, it "popped up a bug". When I reported it, it pointed me to 743778 which was closed as "notabug". At that p

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 6:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/18/2012 09:40 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: For what it is worth, I used the same DVD and am now doing a fresh install on a third machine. First and third machines are HP x4000 and the second "brick" is HP xw8000. I'm hard-pressed to believe it is a

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/18/2012 09:40 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > For what it is worth, I used the same DVD and am now doing a fresh install on > a > third machine. First and third machines are HP x4000 and the second "brick" > is HP > xw8000. I'm hard-pressed to believe it is a difference between x4000 and >

recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
To all: I have an install DVD that I used to do a fresh install of F16 onto a i386/686 machine. I then used it to do a fresh install of a second machine. Midway through the formatting/partitioning, it "popped up a bug". When I reported it, it pointed me to 743778 which was closed as "notabug"