2010/2/8 Valent Turkovic :
> We have one laptop with Mobility Radeon HD 3430 integrated GPU using
> radeon driver and also see constant kernel crashes but not even mouse
> moves after crash, we just see black screen. We see these crashes
> while using Firefox and flash, but not 100% sure if that is
We have one laptop with Mobility Radeon HD 3430 integrated GPU using
radeon driver and also see constant kernel crashes but not even mouse
moves after crash, we just see black screen. We see these crashes
while using Firefox and flash, but not 100% sure if that is the issue.
Is the crash in the lo
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 21:34:33 -0500
Tom Horsley wrote:
> ATI Technologies Inc RV410 [Radeon X700 Pro (PCIE)]
>
> This one seems to work perfectly with the default
> installation (using KMS).
Actually, I take back the part about it working perfectly.
I never use any 3D apps on this thing, but since
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:26:37 -0500
Mail Lists wrote:
> Do you happen to know whether f12 will work with ATI mobility HD 5830
> which is in a bunch of laptops ? (I posted separately too - but since
> you seem to know about ATI thought I'd ask directly.
I only know about the ones I have and I don
On 02/06/2010 09:34 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Just collected all the data on all the systems I use
> with ATI cards, and the results are (mostly) not pretty:
>
> Fedora 12 systems with ATI cards:
Do you happen to know whether f12 will work with ATI mobility HD 5830
which is in a bunch of laptops
Just collected all the data on all the systems I use
with ATI cards, and the results are (mostly) not pretty:
Fedora 12 systems with ATI cards:
ATI Technologies Inc RV410 [Radeon X700 Pro (PCIE)]
This one seems to work perfectly with the default
installation (using KMS). This is the only ATI car
On Saturday 06 February 2010 01:39 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 13:26:12 -0800,
>Suvayu Ali wrote:
>>
>> A bit OT, but what is the difference/pros-cons between User Mode and
>> Kernel Mode Setting? Can anyone refer me to some _not too technical_
>> resource?
>
> User mo
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 13:26:12 -0800,
Suvayu Ali wrote:
>
> A bit OT, but what is the difference/pros-cons between User Mode and
> Kernel Mode Setting? Can anyone refer me to some _not too technical_
> resource?
User mode is the old way of doing things. The only reason to want to use it
is
On Saturday 06 February 2010 10:51 AM, Brian Mury wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 16:02 +, Terry Barnaby wrote:
>> I have machines with: ATI RV280, ATI RV535, ATI X300, Intel 945G and some
>> others. All of these have issues with F12, mainly with 3D but both the
>> ATI RV280 and ATI X300 cause o
On 02/06/2010 06:51 PM, Brian Mury wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 16:02 +, Terry Barnaby wrote:
>> I have machines with: ATI RV280, ATI RV535, ATI X300, Intel 945G and some
>> others. All of these have issues with F12, mainly with 3D but both the
>> ATI RV280 and ATI X300 cause occasional syste
On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 16:02 +, Terry Barnaby wrote:
> I have machines with: ATI RV280, ATI RV535, ATI X300, Intel 945G and some
> others. All of these have issues with F12, mainly with 3D but both the
> ATI RV280 and ATI X300 cause occasional system lockup's requiring a
> reboot in 2D and also
On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 12:37 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> I have a "ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (rev 01)" and I'm
> running F12 with KMS enabled, 2D works perfectly, 3D is sometimes a bit
> "stuttery" (i.e. it freezes on a frame for a small fraction of a second, not
> enough to be
On 02/06/2010 11:37 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Brian Mury wrote:
>> I disagree. As I posted earlier in this thread, my 9200 (rv280) does
>> *not* work with the current drivers. Booting with KMS I get 2D and 3D
>> that are both so slow they are unusable for many tasks (even watching a
>> low resoluti
Brian Mury wrote:
> I disagree. As I posted earlier in this thread, my 9200 (rv280) does
> *not* work with the current drivers. Booting with KMS I get 2D and 3D
> that are both so slow they are unusable for many tasks (even watching a
> low resolution video pins the CPU and drops more frames than i
On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 01:13 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Nobody asked YOU. It was a question directed specifically to me (and I
> wouldn't recommend a card which requires proprietary drivers).
Kevin, on a public list, others are allowed and encouraged to chime in
with their opinions!
> FWIW, th
Robin Laing wrote:
> I will recommend the nVidia. Their site states that they support the
> FX58000.
Nobody asked YOU. It was a question directed specifically to me (and I
wouldn't recommend a card which requires proprietary drivers).
> Now there is a problem here. It is the card interface. I
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 13:58:14 -0700,
Robin Laing wrote:
>
> I say support the company that supports their customers. I would prefer
> OSS but that is not always the option. Just as using Linux all the time
> instead of Windows isn't either.
We are both sort of saying that, but we are ex
On 02/01/2010 03:49 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 22:31:22 +,
>Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>> Suppose I am a newbie for computers, and I decided to buy the latest&greatest
>> in available hardware (btw, this can make sense if you don't want your
>> machine
>> to be obsol
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 16:13 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> NV does not feel that in the Linux market they would make more money,
> sell more hardware, with Open Source drivers than they do with the
> drivers they provide. They feel that the closed source drivers
> suffice, and they provide those.
I
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 15:02:38 -0800,
"Arne Chr. Jorgensen" wrote:
>
> My question: what on earth was so terrible wrong with the driver under F10 ?
> What was the nature of that error ?
The landscape for linux graphics drivers has been changing over the last couple
of years. Fedora has been
hi,
Been reading your dialogue regarding the subject. Having a laptop, HP 6715b,
which became a *nightmare* under F10-x86_64. I have managed a lot of crappy
stuff, but that was hell until the very end.
A quick test of F11-686, F13-rawhide, and did install F12-x86_64, with some
hesitation.
I
Tim wrote:
> Very easy to say, not so easy to do for some people. And even when you
> have a few shops to visit, the same thing applies:
>
> They carry new cards, and only a few in stock. Ordering in as they
> need. The don't sell old cards. You are going to get nowhere going to
> a shop askin
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>> AFAIK, nVidia is locked up in closed source licences and non-disclosure
>> agreements, and that is the only reason why they don't provide specs and
>> open source drivers. It appears nVidia has good will, but legal issues are
>> a showstopper.
>
> Th
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
>> And what you are saying is that someone can't get support for the video
>> card in his/her brand spanking new computer that they just bought at the
>> computer storeassuming it has the latest and greatest video card
>> from whatever manufacturer
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 22:31:22 +,
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>> Suppose I am a newbie for computers, and I decided to buy the
>> latest&greatest
>> in available hardware (btw, this can make sense if you don't want your
>> machine
>> to be obsolete by tomorrow).
Brian Mury wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 08:51 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> I don't have access to and r600 or r700 based cards. I have a rv280 at
>> home and an rv530 at work and both do 3d currently.
>
> I also have an rv280 that I have been having problems with. I'm curious
> if you are us
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 11:39 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Then you go to a different computer shop.
Very easy to say, not so easy to do for some people. And even when you
have a few shops to visit, the same thing applies:
They carry new cards, and only a few in stock. Ordering in as they
need.
2010/2/2 Kevin Kofler :
> Tim wrote:
>> A common problem is that from time to time someone will need to buy a
>> new card (their old one failed, they're building a new computer), and
>> sometimes the only choice you get is to buy a very recently released
>> card. Some computer shops won't carry an
Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M56P [Radeon
> Mobility X1600]
Yeah, that's r5xx alright, support for it was added with the Fedora 9 update
FEDORA-2008-5567 on July 2, 2008 as written in its update notes.
Kevin Kofler
--
users mailing
Tim wrote:
> A common problem is that from time to time someone will need to buy a
> new card (their old one failed, they're building a new computer), and
> sometimes the only choice you get is to buy a very recently released
> card. Some computer shops won't carry anything else, and won't have an
> What we need is to take a year, devise some test programs people
> can run to check the actual behavior of video cards against the
> individual bits of information described in the docs, then encourage
> folks to run the tests and report all the flaws in the docs which
> we could then ask ati to
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 00:58 +0100, François Cami wrote:
> The reason _I_ do not own anything more current is that I don't
> need any faster card than the ones I have.
A common problem is that from time to time someone will need to buy a
new card (their old one failed, they're building a new comput
On 02/01/2010 10:51 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Assuming it's an r5xx series card (it can't be r6xx or higher because you
> said the Catalyst driver doesn't support it anymore), Fedora 9 updates /
> Fedora 10. It was added in this update:
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/20
Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> And what you are saying is that someone can't get support for the video
> card in his/her brand spanking new computer that they just bought at the
> computer storeassuming it has the latest and greatest video card
> from whatever manufacturer. Weird.
"whatever manuf
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 02:20:38 +,
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Monday 01 February 2010 22:58:13 Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > And look what just came out today:
> > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk0Ng
>
> OH, WOW! :-D
>
> I was just about to opt-out of the discussion be
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 17:23:40 -0800,
Brian Mury wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 08:51 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > I don't have access to and r600 or r700 based cards. I have a rv280 at
> > home and an rv530 at work and both do 3d currently.
>
> I also have an rv280 that I have been havi
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 19:38:39 -0500,
"Kevin J. Cummings" wrote:
>
> I think you are missing the point here. Fedora is admittedly a bleeding
> edge software distribution that does not support the bleeding edge of
> video hardware. How ironic is that?
I sure there is plenty of hardware that
On Monday 01 February 2010 23:58:45 François Cami wrote:
> Moreover, according to Wikipedia [2] [3] and others, it seems that
> NVIDIA has not released any really new hardware for a long while.
> If this is true, you are comparing apples (really new hardware
> on new Xorg) to oranges (refreshed old
On 02/01/2010 08:23 PM, Brian Mury wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 08:51 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> I don't have access to and r600 or r700 based cards. I have a rv280 at
>> home and an rv530 at work and both do 3d currently.
>
> I also have an rv280 that I have been having problems with. I'm
On Monday 01 February 2010 23:53:32 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > And who supports their own hardware at all? Opensource-ness is immaterial
> > here, ATI doesn't have *any* drivers which would work in F12, for their
> > own latest&greatest graphics card.
>
> Who cares? That card
On Monday 01 February 2010 22:58:13 Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> And look what just came out today:
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk0Ng
OH, WOW! :-D
I was just about to opt-out of the discussion because it is getting more and
more philosophical, but *this* text... This text i
On Monday 01 February 2010, Tom Horsley wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:35:03 -0500
>
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> if I enable pulseaudio, it chooses that for
>> the main output, cannot be convinced to ignore it
>
>Actually, in F12, the advanced audio control app has
>a hardware control tab where one of
Hi Marko,
On Monday 01 February 2010 06:23 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Sunday 31 January 2010 20:30:36 Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> I think the current suggestion is to buy Intel or ATI hardware and use
>> the open source drivers
> When we speak of 3D, ATI just doesn't have decent open source dri
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 08:51 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> I don't have access to and r600 or r700 based cards. I have a rv280 at
> home and an rv530 at work and both do 3d currently.
I also have an rv280 that I have been having problems with. I'm curious
if you are using kernel or user space mod
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 16:58 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 22:52:24 +,
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> >
> > Unlike ATI, who *claim* to support FS, but actually do so only when the
> > hardware in question becomes obsolete.
>
> r700 series chipsets are hardly obsolete.
On 02/01/2010 05:49 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 22:31:22 +,
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>> You are basically listing hardware that is either inferior in performance or
>> is going to become obsolete in a year.
>
> Obsolete? Not for Fedora. Maybe for playing the latest
Tom Horsley wrote:
> Actually, in F12, the advanced audio control app has
> a hardware control tab where one of the modes available
> to operate each hardware device is "ignore". I'm now willing to
> use pulse in F12 because I can make it ignore my 2nd sound
> card which I dedicate to optical outpu
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:43:06 +
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Monday 01 February 2010 20:46:52 François Cami wrote:
> >
> > Of course, I use neither IGPs nor the latest cards.
>
> Of course you don't, because the latest ATI cards don't work on F12.
The reason _I_ do not own anything more curren
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> And who supports their own hardware at all? Opensource-ness is immaterial
> here, ATI doesn't have *any* drivers which would work in F12, for their
> own latest&greatest graphics card.
Who cares? That card is too expensive anyway! At an Austrian price
comparison site (but
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:35:03 -0500
Gene Heskett wrote:
> if I enable pulseaudio, it chooses that for
> the main output, cannot be convinced to ignore it
Actually, in F12, the advanced audio control app has
a hardware control tab where one of the modes available
to operate each hardware device is
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> And much cheaper hadrware. And possibly passively cooled hardware that is
> quieter. (The 9200 was a really card for its time. It was inexpensive and
> didn't need a separate fan.)
That's also a good point. It's a good argument for an integrated Intel GMA
chipset, as thos
On Monday 01 February 2010, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>On Monday 01 February 2010 20:11:46 Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>> > And the fact that they provide support next to none (of their closed
>> > source drivers) demonstrates that they *do* care about Linux market,
>> > and do take
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Suppose I am a newbie for computers, and I decided to buy the
> latest&greatest in available hardware
Then you're already making a mistake. The latest hardware isn't always the
best. Especially not when it comes to driver support. It's just a big waste
of money.
> So wh
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 22:52:24 +,
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
> Unlike ATI, who *claim* to support FS, but actually do so only when the
> hardware in question becomes obsolete.
r700 series chipsets are hardly obsolete. I don't think one would have too
much trouble buying one.
And look wha
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 22:31:22 +,
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Suppose I am a newbie for computers, and I decided to buy the latest&greatest
> in available hardware (btw, this can make sense if you don't want your
> machine
> to be obsolete by tomorrow). So when I get to choose a graphics
On Monday 01 February 2010 20:11:46 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > And the fact that they provide support next to none (of their closed
> > source drivers) demonstrates that they *do* care about Linux market, and
> > do take the community support seriously.
>
> I disagree. Provid
On Monday 01 February 2010 20:46:52 François Cami wrote:
>
> Of course, I use neither IGPs nor the latest cards.
Of course you don't, because the latest ATI cards don't work on F12. There is
no functional driver, nor open nor closed source.
> > oops, sorry... you *cannot* opt for radeon(hd)
> >
On Monday 01 February 2010 20:03:40 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > You mean as in nVidia drivers taking a week or so to adjust to new kernel
> > version and reach rpmfusion? Wow, that's a bummer! So you suggest we all
> > opt to use ATI drivers which don't work at all on current X
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:01:45 +
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> As for 3D and closed source drivers... If you buy a nVidia card, you can use
> their closed source drivers, and they basically Just Work. If you buy an ATI
> card, you can use... oops, sorry... you *cannot* use their closed source
> d
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> As for 3D and closed source drivers... If you buy a nVidia card, you can
> use their closed source drivers, and they basically Just Work. If you buy
> an ATI card, you can use... oops, sorry... you *cannot* use their closed
> source drivers, because they do not support your
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> AFAIK, nVidia is locked up in closed source licences and non-disclosure
> agreements, and that is the only reason why they don't provide specs and
> open source drivers. It appears nVidia has good will, but legal issues are
> a showstopper.
That's bullshit. There are repea
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> You mean as in nVidia drivers taking a week or so to adjust to new kernel
> version and reach rpmfusion? Wow, that's a bummer! So you suggest we all
> opt to use ATI drivers which don't work at all on current X for several
> months now, basically since F12 appeared? And who
Robin Laing wrote:
> I purchased two new computers (1 laptop) last year. In both cases I
> chose nVidia video because I know that they work. Even in F12 and KDE.
> I have had Intel video cards and had to replace them with nVidia to
> get applications to work properly.
Weird, the Intel GM965 on
Robin Laing wrote:
> There is a supposed to be 3D support work through Gallium3D. Now this
> is not an option with Fedora as they don't make a RPM for this package.
> Maybe it isn't ready yet. I don't know. Without this, I cannot test
> the Nouveau driver.
It's really not ready. Fedora is qui
On 01/31/2010 01:18 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 08:27:04 -0700,
>"Christopher A. Williams" wrote:
>>
>> Nouveau only supports 2D, and the OpenSource Radeon driver has had at
>> least as many ...ummm issues as the proprietary driver.
>>
>> So, if you need true 3D graphi
Once upon a time, Bruno Wolff III said:
> I am not sure about that. I think that a lot of the stuff that is upstream in
> 2.6.33 is already in Fedora kernels. I use an rv530 on F12 (currently with the
> 2.6.32 kernels, but previously with 2.6.31) and it seems to work OK for
> 3d stuff, though I ju
On Monday 01 February 2010, Tom Horsley wrote:
>On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:23:57 +
>
>Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>> Given the alleged
>> availability of hardware specs, I'd expect the driver to progress much
>> faster than it actually does.
>
>There is a link on the xorg web site somewhere to a batch of
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 09:16:29 -0500,
Bill Davidsen wrote:
> I think the issue is that the drivers in F12 are already out of date,
> and that unless the 2.6.33 (and later) video drivers are backported, or
> the kernel is upgraded, there won't be a lot of joy.
I am not sure about that. I thi
On Monday 01 February 2010, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>On Sunday 31 January 2010 20:47:11 Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 16:01:45 +,
>> nVidia's stance is that they neither help nor hinder the Nouveau project.
>> That could certainly be worse. They could be trying to actively p
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 14:23:57 +,
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
> Well, ok, but if you are testing out new kernels, the open-source 2D driver
> shoud do, right? Or are you typically testing kernels and 3D graphics
> simultaneously?
Sometimes. I am doing dogfood type testing. I occasionally
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:23:57 +
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Given the alleged
> availability of hardware specs, I'd expect the driver to progress much faster
> than it actually does.
There is a link on the xorg web site somewhere to a batch of pdf files
provided by amd/ati (I saw it once, but do
On Sunday 31 January 2010 20:47:11 Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 16:01:45 +,
> nVidia's stance is that they neither help nor hinder the Nouveau project.
> That could certainly be worse. They could be trying to actively prevent
> that effort.
AFAIK, nVidia is locked up in c
On Sunday 31 January 2010 20:30:36 Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 16:16:06 +,
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > You mean as in nVidia drivers taking a week or so to adjust to new kernel
> > version and reach rpmfusion? Wow, that's a bummer! So you suggest we all
> > opt to use A
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 13:45:39 -0500,
> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>
>> I don't need or want 3D anything, just a working display which doesn't
>> crash.
>> Note that 2.6.33-rc[56] seem somewhat better, although some adventures in
>> cmdline options are needed to get th
On Sunday 31 January 2010 18:54:17 you wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 16:35 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
> ===
>
> > > I'm using the same binary driver as you are.
>
> ===
>
> Do take notice that
On Sunday 31 January 2010 20:18:15 Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 08:27:04 -0700,
> "Christopher A. Williams" wrote:
> > Nouveau only supports 2D, and the OpenSource Radeon driver has had at
> > least as many ...ummm issues as the proprietary driver.
> >
> > So, if you need tru
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 13:45:39 -0500,
Bill Davidsen wrote:
>
> I don't need or want 3D anything, just a working display which doesn't crash.
> Note that 2.6.33-rc[56] seem somewhat better, although some adventures in
> cmdline options are needed to get there (not the same on each laptop). I
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 16:01:45 +,
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
> As for 3D and closed source drivers... If you buy a nVidia card, you can use
> their closed source drivers, and they basically Just Work. If you buy an ATI
> card, you can use... oops, sorry... you *cannot* use their closed so
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 16:16:06 +,
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
> You mean as in nVidia drivers taking a week or so to adjust to new kernel
> version and reach rpmfusion? Wow, that's a bummer! So you suggest we all opt
> to use ATI drivers which don't work at all on current X for several mon
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 08:27:04 -0700,
"Christopher A. Williams" wrote:
>
> Nouveau only supports 2D, and the OpenSource Radeon driver has had at
> least as many ...ummm issues as the proprietary driver.
>
> So, if you need true 3D graphics support without a lot of issues, at the
> moment nVi
On 01/31/2010 08:16 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> You mean as in nVidia drivers taking a week or so to adjust to new kernel
> version and reach rpmfusion? Wow, that's a bummer! So you suggest we all opt
> to use ATI drivers which don't work at all on current X for several months
> now, basically sin
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 16:35 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
===
> > I'm using the same binary driver as you are.
===
Do take notice that I -am- using the nVidia binary drivers.
> > - Legacy driver rele
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>> Since you don't mind using closed-source drivers... :-) If the graphics
>> card in your machine is not integrated (ie. is replaceable), my advice is
>> to go buy an nVidia card. They at least provide nonzero support for
>> contemporary Linux. And if i
On Sunday 31 January 2010 14:25:39 Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 20:30 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > In my case, none of the above...
>
> Oh, come on!
> I'm using the same binary driver as you are.
> And yes, nVidia binary driver, while -far- better than ATI's driver,
Lesser of two
On Sunday 31 January 2010 09:52:58 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Ed Greshko wrote:
> > Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >> Recommending proprietary drivers in general and NVidia in particular is
> >> a very bad idea, they'll come to bite you in the ass sooner or later,
> >> and with NVidia there's no alternative with
On Sunday 31 January 2010 09:28:40 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > Since you don't mind using closed-source drivers... :-) If the graphics
> > card in your machine is not integrated (ie. is replaceable), my advice is
> > to go buy an nVidia card. They at least provide nonzero suppo
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 08:27:04 -0700
Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> Nouveau only supports 2D, and the OpenSource Radeon driver has had at
> least as many ...ummm issues as the proprietary driver.
Hell, I wish there was a stable working radeon driver that only
supported 2D so I could get reliable
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 16:25 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 20:30 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > In my case, none of the above...
>
> Oh, come on!
> I'm using the same binary driver as you are.
> And yes, nVidia binary driver, while -far- better than ATI's driver, has
> had it's
Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 20:30 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>> In my case, none of the above...
>>
>
> Oh, come on!
> I'm using the same binary driver as you are.
> And yes, nVidia binary driver, while -far- better than ATI's driver, has
> had it's share of issues.
> E.g.
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 20:30 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> In my case, none of the above...
Oh, come on!
I'm using the same binary driver as you are.
And yes, nVidia binary driver, while -far- better than ATI's driver, has
had it's share of issues.
E.g.
- Initial F12 xorg + nVidia driver combo resulte
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>
>> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>>
>>> Recommending proprietary drivers in general and NVidia in particular is a
>>> very bad idea, they'll come to bite you in the ass sooner or later, and
>>> with NVidia there's no alternative with OpenGL support. (Nouvea
Ed Greshko wrote:
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Recommending proprietary drivers in general and NVidia in particular is a
>> very bad idea, they'll come to bite you in the ass sooner or later, and
>> with NVidia there's no alternative with OpenGL support. (Nouveau
>> reportedly works great for 2D these
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
>> Since you don't mind using closed-source drivers... :-) If the graphics
>> card in your machine is not integrated (ie. is replaceable), my advice is
>> to go buy an nVidia card. They at least provide nonzero support for
>> contemporary Linux. And
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Since you don't mind using closed-source drivers... :-) If the graphics
> card in your machine is not integrated (ie. is replaceable), my advice is
> to go buy an nVidia card. They at least provide nonzero support for
> contemporary Linux. And if it is integrated, next time
Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:02:46 -0600
> Dale Dellutri wrote:
>
>> Note that I worked around my bug by adding "nomodeset" to the kernel boot
>> line.
>
> Nope. If I turn off modesetting, it has even bigger problems. I seem
> to recall I couldn't even get X to start the last time
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:02:46 -0600
Dale Dellutri wrote:
> Note that I worked around my bug by adding "nomodeset" to the kernel boot
> line.
Nope. If I turn off modesetting, it has even bigger problems. I seem
to recall I couldn't even get X to start the last time I tried it.
The default setting s
On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 18:58 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Since you don't mind using closed-source drivers... :-) If the graphics card
> in your machine is not integrated (ie. is replaceable), my advice is to go
> buy
> an nVidia card. They at least provide nonzero support for contemporary Lin
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> My poor system at work generated this bug shortly after
> I installed f12 on it:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541387
>
Your bug report 541387 seems to be the same as mine:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557
On Tuesday 26 January 2010 18:01:24 Tom Horsley wrote:
> Is there any remote chance that AMD/ATI are ever going
> to produce a catalyst driver that can be built on the
> fedora 12 kernel? It might work better...
Since you don't mind using closed-source drivers... :-) If the graphics card
in your
My poor system at work generated this bug shortly after
I installed f12 on it:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541387
I had hoped that over time, the drivers would improve,
but since the updates of about a week ago, the crashes
have been much more dramatic and frequent, so much
so tha
100 matches
Mail list logo
