Re: Sound-setup with alsa and pulseaudio [was: Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!]

2017-11-26 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 20:43:07 -0800 Mike Wright wrote: > On 11/24/2017 01:02 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > Doug, Philip, and Everyone > > > > I started a new thread with the quotes below to make > > sure to not hijack the thread where they were taken from ... > > > > Short version: > > The wh

Re: Sound-setup with alsa and pulseaudio [was: Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!]

2017-11-25 Thread Mike Wright
On 11/24/2017 01:02 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Doug, Philip, and Everyone I started a new thread with the quotes below to make sure to not hijack the thread where they were taken from ... Short version: The whole thing isn't that important - if in doubt, ignore it ... :) The main reason I wro

Re: Sound-setup with alsa and pulseaudio [was: Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!]

2017-11-25 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 07:32:53 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/25/17 05:02, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > >[ ... ] namely to feed > > sound on a Linux machine to two audio systems at the same time: to > > internal speakers on the computer and to external ones like, e.g., > > those in a TV, via HDMI.

Re: Sound-setup with alsa and pulseaudio [was: Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!]

2017-11-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/25/17 05:02, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > Doug, Philip, and Everyone > > I started a new thread with the quotes below to make > sure to not hijack the thread where they were taken from ... > > Short version: > The whole thing isn't that important - if in doubt, ignore it ... :) > The main reaso

Re: Sound-setup with alsa and pulseaudio [was: Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!]

2017-11-24 Thread Doug
On 11/24/2017 04:02 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Doug, Philip, and Everyone I started a new thread with the quotes below to make sure to not hijack the thread where they were taken from ... Short version: The whole thing isn't that important - if in doubt, ignore it ... :) The main reason I wr

Sound-setup with alsa and pulseaudio [was: Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!]

2017-11-24 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Doug, Philip, and Everyone I started a new thread with the quotes below to make sure to not hijack the thread where they were taken from ... Short version: The whole thing isn't that important - if in doubt, ignore it ... :) The main reason I wrote this email is plain and simple curiosity about w

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-24 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 09:09:07 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 21:49:17 -0500 > Doug wrote: > > > It may take some serious fiddling > > around with the possibilities in PA > > My most annoying PA experience was it doing something > a bit like that all by itself. All I did was app

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 21:49:17 -0500 Doug wrote: > It may take some serious fiddling > around with the possibilities in PA My most annoying PA experience was it doing something a bit like that all by itself. All I did was apply updates one day, and suddenly only about half the media apps on my syst

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread Doug
On 11/23/2017 07:04 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On 11/23/17, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/2017 01:59 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: I ended up removing pulseaudio but couldn't get alsa to work either, so I now have a sound-less system just like in my AMD 386 running OS/2 back in 1993 before the Sou

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread stan
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 18:59:15 -0300 Fernando Cassia wrote: > Where do I sign?. Unfortunately I have a LinuxMINT system w AMD APU > and where audio over HDMI never actually worked. > > I purchased three cheap USB Sound adapters in the hope of getting > audio out that way, but I don't get sound fro

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread stan
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 11:14:37 -0500 "David A. De Graaf" wrote: > By fine, I mean, for example, that scripts that generate sound can be > invoked by any user, in any environment:  In /etc/rc.d/rc.local > during boot by root, in a plain text terminal, in an X window by any > user, including root,

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 21:04:51 -0300 Fernando Cassia wrote: > If there's something like that, I'd like to know about it. There is pacmd which has the world's most obscure interface but does allow you to do things like change the output device (once you spend 2 hours decrypting how to use it). It i

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread Fernando Cassia
On 11/23/17, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/23/2017 01:59 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> I ended up removing pulseaudio but couldn't get alsa to work either, >> so I now have a sound-less system just like in my AMD 386 running OS/2 >> back in 1993 before the SoundBlaster 16 arrived. > > If ALSA isn't w

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread Philip Rhoades
Wolfgang, Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 21:07:08 +0100 From: Wolfgang Pfeiffer Subject: Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE! To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: <20171123210708.26f09cb4@aw17> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 20:02:47 +0100 Wolfgang Pfeiffer

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/2017 01:59 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: I ended up removing pulseaudio but couldn't get alsa to work either, so I now have a sound-less system just like in my AMD 386 running OS/2 back in 1993 before the SoundBlaster 16 arrived. If ALSA isn't working, then PulseAudio won't either since i

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread Fernando Cassia
On 11/22/17, David A. De Graaf wrote: > Sound now works perfectly - just the way it should. > I cannot discern any important loss of function from the deleted 34 > packages so far. aplay, vlc, xmms, mythfrontend and even > skypeforlinux all work fine with alsa. > > pulseaudio should just go away

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/2017 08:14 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: By fine, I mean, for example, that scripts that generate sound can be invoked by any user, in any environment:  In /etc/rc.d/rc.local during boot by root, in a plain text terminal, in an X window by any user, including root, in a crontab job run

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 20:02:47 +0100 Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 20:10:19 -0500 > Doug wrote: > > > On 11/22/2017 05:36 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > > > [ ... ] > > > > > > Today I held an exorcism and have slain the damned thing: > > > dnf remove pulseaudio > > > whic

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 20:10:19 -0500 Doug wrote: > On 11/22/2017 05:36 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > > pulseaudio became unusable on F26 with the upgrade to vers 11.1.2 a > > few weeks ago. It rapidly filled the log files with trash - and > > produced no sound. > > By using dnf downgrade "*puls

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 11/22/17 21:59, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 22 November 2017, David A. De Graaf sent: I've fought with this miserable pulseaudio creation for several years, trying to get sound to work *properly*, but this is the last straw. I can't say I've had any real problems with it. I used to ha

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 11/22/17 19:38, Sam Varshavchik wrote: David A. De Graaf writes: Today I held an exorcism and have slain the damned thing:     dnf remove pulseaudio which, amazingly, took out 34 packages. Sound now works perfectly - just the way it should. I cannot discern any important loss of function fr

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-22 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 22 November 2017, David A. De Graaf sent: > I've fought with this miserable pulseaudio creation for several > years, trying to get sound to work *properly*, but this is the > last straw. I can't say I've had any real problems with it. I used to have lots of problems with wh

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-22 Thread Doug
On 11/22/2017 05:36 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: pulseaudio became unusable on F26 with the upgrade to vers 11.1.2 a few weeks ago. It rapidly filled the log files with trash - and produced no sound. By using dnf downgrade "*pulseaudio*"I was able to restore sanity. Yesterday I freshly i

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-22 Thread Sam Varshavchik
David A. De Graaf writes: Today I held an exorcism and have slain the damned thing:     dnf remove pulseaudio which, amazingly, took out 34 packages. Sound now works perfectly - just the way it should. I cannot discern any important loss of function from the deleted 34 packages so far.  aplay,

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/23/17 06:36, David A. De Graaf wrote: > pulseaudio became unusable on F26 with the upgrade to vers 11.1.2 a few > weeks ago.  It rapidly filled the log files with trash - and produced > no sound. > By using   dnf downgrade "*pulseaudio*"    I was able to restore sanity. > > Yesterday I freshl

pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-22 Thread David A. De Graaf
pulseaudio became unusable on F26 with the upgrade to vers 11.1.2 a few weeks ago.  It rapidly filled the log files with trash - and produced no sound. By using   dnf downgrade "*pulseaudio*"    I was able to restore sanity. Yesterday I freshly installed Fedora 27 Live Xfce on an Acer laptop. Tod