Re: presto

2013-04-11 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 04/09/2013 01:36 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > I am curious to know why anyone would not want to use the deltarpms? It > works well and I am always looking for ways to save bandwidth, the > smaller the files I download the better. Because on some of my older machines, it takes

Re: presto

2013-04-10 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 10:45 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > Did it at least tell you that it had to install both basil and pine-nuts > as dependencies? You probably have to download the sauce, and make your own... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscripti

Re: presto

2013-04-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/10/2013 09:02 AM, Ian Malone wrote: Yum, pesto. Did it at least tell you that it had to install both basil and pine-nuts as dependencies? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: presto

2013-04-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 17:02 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: > On 8 April 2013 16:31, Tim wrote: > > > Alan Gagne: > > > > Try install presto yum plugin. > > > > > > > > yum install yum-presto > > > > > > > > [dw-agagne ~]# y

Re: presto

2013-04-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 8 April 2013 16:31, Tim wrote: > Alan Gagne: > > > Try install presto yum plugin. > > > > > > yum install yum-presto > > > > > > [dw-agagne ~]# yum info yum-pesto > > Henk Breimer: > > NoGo : yum-presto has been obsoleted. >

Re: presto

2013-04-10 Thread Henk Breimer
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 19:13:45 +0200 poma wrote: > > The tea party is here. ;) > > poma > > > [1] […] > deltarpm > When non-zero, delta-RPM files are used if available. […] > man 5 yum.conf > > This is it! thanks I scanned for presto and miss

Re: presto

2013-04-10 Thread Reindl Harald
ages at 12 MB/sec. :) > > Am I alone in feeling a tiny environmental or ethical concern > to minimise my contribution to network traffic? no, you are not i have one machine with all packages on any machine used installed this machine has 100Mbit WAN, is downloading the updates without p

Re: presto

2013-04-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Michael Cronenworth wrote: > A few of my machines (2 and 4 cores, SSDs) assemble delta-rpms at around > 1 to 2 MB/sec. I have a 100MBit internet connection, which can peak > around 12 MB/sec. I'd rather get my packages at 12 MB/sec. :) Am I alone in feeling a tiny environmental or ethical concern

Re: presto

2013-04-10 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 09/04/13 18:51, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 09.04.2013 19:36, schrieb Bob Goodwin - Zuni: I am curious to know why anyone would not want to use the deltarpms? It works well and I am always looking for ways to save bandwidth, the smaller the files I download the better if you are have creeping

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread poma
On 09.04.2013 19:41, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 13:36:05 -0400 > "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > >> I am curious to know why anyone would not want to use the deltarpms? >> It works well and I am always looking for ways to save bandwidth, the >> smaller the files I down

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread poma
On 10.04.2013 00:49, Reindl Harald wrote: […] > surely not, updates are NEVER exlusive drpms Good for you! :) > how do you imagine that the delta falls from heaven and what > do you think are the kernel and dracut packages below? Vorsprung durch Technik. :) poma -- users mailing list user

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.04.2013 19:36, schrieb Bob Goodwin - Zuni: > I am curious to know why anyone would not want to use the deltarpms? It works > well and I am always looking for ways > to save bandwidth, the smaller the files I download the better if you are have creeping slow disks and 100 Mbit WAN the rebu

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.04.2013 18:19, schrieb poma: > On 09.04.2013 15:27, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> have you tried to create the file and set it to "enabled=0" >> or are you only guessing? i have currently no access to >> my homemachine with the rawhide-VM because ISP is down >> and if i would if would have pro

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/09/2013 01:12 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 04/09/2013 02:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: "Trying?" The process is automated, and I've never seen it fail. However, if you prefer not to use it, it's your server room, not mine. Do whatever works for you. To provide hard evidence to support Kev

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 11:22:04 -0800 Antonio Olivares wrote: > Excellent points! > > May I add that sometimes the updates don't work via the drpms and the > real ones have to get downloaded again in order to correctly > install. There is always a trade off, but how does yum interpret > that the dr

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 04/09/2013 02:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > "Trying?" The process is automated, and I've never seen it fail. > However, if you prefer not to use it, it's your server room, not mine. > Do whatever works for you. To provide hard evidence to support Kevin/Chris' argument: A few of my machines (2 and

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Antonio Olivares
> -Original Message- > From: ke...@scrye.com > Sent: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 11:41:08 -0600 > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: Re: presto > > On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 13:36:05 -0400 > "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > >> I am curio

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/09/2013 11:26 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Because I have a local mirror server about 6 rack units away, connected to the same gigabit switch. Why futz around with trying to rebuild RPMs and apply changes when the full RPM can be downloaded much faster? "Trying?" The process is automated, and

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA said: > I am curious to know why anyone would not want to use the deltarpms? It > works well and I am always looking for ways to save bandwidth, the > smaller the files I download the better. Because I have a local mirror server about 6 rack

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 09/04/13 13:41, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 13:36:05 -0400 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: I am curious to know why anyone would not want to use the deltarpms? It works well and I am always looking for ways to save bandwidth, the smaller the files I download the better

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 13:27 +0200, Henk Breimer wrote: > On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 10:47:05 -0400 > Alan Gagne wrote: > > > > NoGo : yum-presto has been obsoleted. > > > > Don't know what to tell you. > > I have two F18 boxes that are both using the presto

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 13:36:05 -0400 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > I am curious to know why anyone would not want to use the deltarpms? > It works well and I am always looking for ways to save bandwidth, the > smaller the files I download the better. It's a trade off. It saves you

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 09/04/13 13:13, poma wrote: > In f19+, I think you can set in /etc/yum.conf: > > deltarpm=0 > > and it will not use them. You are right, I missed this[1] one. Sorry. > This might be a better topic for the test list since f19 is not > released yet. The tea party is here.;) poma [1] […]

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread poma
On 09.04.2013 18:44, Kevin Fenzi wrote: […] > Yeah, F19 has branched off rawhide, they are different now. > >> Updates are exclusively deltas/drpms. > > Nope. Regular packages are available as well. > > In f19+, I think you can set in /etc/yum.conf: > > deltarpm=0 > > and it will not use t

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 18:19:07 +0200 poma wrote: > On 09.04.2013 15:27, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > have you tried to create the file and set it to "enabled=0" > > or are you only guessing? i have currently no access to > > my homemachine with the rawhide-VM because ISP is down > > and if i would i

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread poma
On 09.04.2013 15:27, Reindl Harald wrote: > have you tried to create the file and set it to "enabled=0" > or are you only guessing? i have currently no access to > my homemachine with the rawhide-VM because ISP is down > and if i would if would have proven it by output or searched > whatever optio

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Frank Murphy
rpm(s) Total download size: 326 k Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading packages: Not downloading Presto metadata for fedora-updates-testing (1/4): xorg-x11-drv-mga-1.6.2-6.fc18.x86_64.rpm | 66 kB 00:00:01 (2/4): xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-1.0.6-4.fc18.x86_64.rpm | 92 kB 00:00:01 (3/4): xorg-x11-drv-qxl

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Frank Murphy
by output or searched > whatever option or config file is repsonsible > It will tell you there is no plugin called presto. Presto is only mentioned in yum-cli-commands to grab the presodelta.xml Running F18 with yum-rawhide.repo (nightly builds) F19 F19-yum Rawhide Rawhide.yum > howeve

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.04.2013 15:22, schrieb Frank Murphy: > On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 15:20:00 +0200 > Reindl Harald wrote: > ones >> >> [root@rh:/etc/yum/pluginconf.d]$ >> cat /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/presto.conf [main] >> enabled=0 >> > > Does not exist in newer yum F19+ > So to disable it, you hunt the code. > Whic

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 15:20:00 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: ones > > [root@rh:/etc/yum/pluginconf.d]$ > cat /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/presto.conf [main] > enabled=0 > Does not exist in newer yum F19+ So to disable it, you hunt the code. Which is what the OP asked for. -- Regards, Frank http//www.fran

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Reindl Harald
have been much shorter with a subject like "how to disable presto in F19 and above" instead bring phrases like obsoleted and no clear question: why should someone touch things in /usr and let them overwrite with any random update? as user you MUST NOT touch files from RPMs which are not

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:55:36 +0200 Henk Breimer wrote: > > I would still like to know how it can be switched off Have a look at: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/yum -- Regards, Frank http//www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscrip

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Henk Breimer
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 14:23:07 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 09.04.2013 13:27, schrieb Henk Breimer: > > On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 10:47:05 -0400 > > Alan Gagne wrote: > > > >>> NoGo : yum-presto has been obsoleted. > >> > >> Don't

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.04.2013 13:27, schrieb Henk Breimer: > On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 10:47:05 -0400 > Alan Gagne wrote: > >>> NoGo : yum-presto has been obsoleted. >> >> Don't know what to tell you. >> I have two F18 boxes that are both using the presto plugin for yum. &g

Re: presto

2013-04-09 Thread Henk Breimer
On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 10:47:05 -0400 Alan Gagne wrote: > > NoGo : yum-presto has been obsoleted. > > Don't know what to tell you. > I have two F18 boxes that are both using the presto plugin for yum. > > Linux dw-agagne 3.8.5-201.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Mar 28 21:01:19

Re: presto

2013-04-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.04.2013 19:27, schrieb Bill Davidsen: > Reindl Harald wrote: >>> NoGo : yum-presto has been obsoleted >> >> aha and what is this? >> yum-presto-0.9.0-1.fc18.noarch >> >> it has been obsoleted for Fedora 10 because it is no longer >> needed as

Re: presto

2013-04-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Reindl Harald wrote: Am 08.04.2013 16:37, schrieb Henk Breimer: On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 10:14:24 -0400 Alan Gagne wrote: starting fc18 presto-plugin has disappeared I would like to get yum out of this mode. Can't find a conf switch or trick to do that in man or google. Is this another c

Re: presto

2013-04-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Henk Breimer wrote: starting fc18 presto-plugin has disappeared I would like to get yum out of this mode. Can't find a conf switch or trick to do that in man or google. Is this another choice removed from "Linux,the world of choice"? Or can I get a hint from here? Hint: yu

Re: presto

2013-04-08 Thread Tim
Alan Gagne: > > Try install presto yum plugin. > > > > yum install yum-presto > > > > [dw-agagne ~]# yum info yum-pesto Henk Breimer: > NoGo : yum-presto has been obsoleted. So, did you type yum-presto or yum-pesto?? It's yum-presto. -- [tim@localhos

Re: presto

2013-04-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.04.2013 16:37, schrieb Henk Breimer: > On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 10:14:24 -0400 > Alan Gagne wrote: > >>> starting fc18 presto-plugin has disappeared >>> I would like to get yum out of this mode. >>> Can't find a conf switch or trick to do that in

Re: presto

2013-04-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/08/13 22:37, Henk Breimer wrote: > On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 10:14:24 -0400 > Alan Gagne wrote: > >>> starting fc18 presto-plugin has disappeared >>> I would like to get yum out of this mode. >>> Can't find a conf switch or trick to do that in man or g

Re: presto

2013-04-08 Thread Henk Breimer
On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 10:14:24 -0400 Alan Gagne wrote: > > starting fc18 presto-plugin has disappeared > > I would like to get yum out of this mode. > > Can't find a conf switch or trick to do that in man or google. > > Is this another choice removed from "Linux,

presto

2013-04-08 Thread Henk Breimer
starting fc18 presto-plugin has disappeared I would like to get yum out of this mode. Can't find a conf switch or trick to do that in man or google. Is this another choice removed from "Linux,the world of choice"? Or can I get a hint from here? Thanks, Henk -- users mai

Re: FC13 yum presto

2010-06-18 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 11:59 +0300, Dj YB wrote: > hello, > > since installation all updates had to be downloaded almost entirely and not > used the benefit of delta's > is anyone else seeing this problem or is something temporary in the repos? > how could I investigate the source of the problem i

FC13 yum presto

2010-06-18 Thread Dj YB
hello, since installation all updates had to be downloaded almost entirely and not used the benefit of delta's is anyone else seeing this problem or is something temporary in the repos? how could I investigate the source of the problem if it lies at my configurations? thanks, YB. -- users mail