Re: Installed Rawhide with btrfs; dnf system update to v40 has errors ; re-install from Live USB without affecting a non-root subvolume?

2024-06-04 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024, at 3:42 PM, Philip Rhoades via users wrote: > So, if I try to reinstall from the current f40 live usb - can I do that > without touching the backup subvolume? ie: > > /dev/nvme0n1p3btrfs 1,951,850,496 464,659,184 1,486,438,224 > 24% / &

Re: Installed Rawhide with btrfs; dnf system update to v40 has errors ; re-install from Live USB without affecting a non-root subvolume?

2024-06-03 Thread Philip Rhoades via users
George, On 2024-06-04 09:37, George N. White III wrote: On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 4:43 PM Philip Rhoades via users wrote: People, A while ago I was in a hurry to start using F40 (Sway) and installed Rawhide from a live usb to get started. Everything went pretty well and I had minimal

Re: Installed Rawhide with btrfs; dnf system update to v40 has errors ; re-install from Live USB without affecting a non-root subvolume?

2024-06-03 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 4:43 PM Philip Rhoades via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > People, > > A while ago I was in a hurry to start using F40 (Sway) and installed > Rawhide from a live usb to get started. > > Everything went pretty well and I had minimal

Installed Rawhide with btrfs; dnf system update to v40 has errors ; re-install from Live USB without affecting a non-root subvolume?

2024-06-03 Thread Philip Rhoades via users
People, A while ago I was in a hurry to start using F40 (Sway) and installed Rawhide from a live usb to get started. Everything went pretty well and I had minimal problems up until after f40 was release. However now, when I tried to do a: dnf system upgrade download --releasever=40 I

Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 4/28/24 15:04, Michael Hennebry wrote: If you are really makking the spin yourself, I am just downloading it https://fedoraproject.org/spins/mate/ -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows

Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 27 Apr 2024, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead. Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few mor

Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread Mike Wright
On 4/27/24 21:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora.  I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead. Question:  Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install

Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread Barry
> On 28 Apr 2024, at 05:21, ToddAndMargo via users > wrote: > > Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the > drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment > with? What I do is use the installer USB to install onto a second USB device. The second one will have writabl

Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 1:21 AM ToddAndMargo via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hi All, > > I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I > talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive > for him to play with before we jump

Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 11:21 PM ToddAndMargo via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hi All, > > I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I > talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive > for him to play with before we jump ahead. &

Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
ToddAndMargo via users writes: Hi All, I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead. Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs

Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 4/28/24 01:51, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2024-04-27 at 21:21 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora.  I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead. Questi

Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2024-04-27 at 21:21 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora.  I > talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive > for him to play with before we jump ahead. > > Question:  Is there a wa

Live USB extra space

2024-04-27 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead. Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment with? M

Re: Labling a live usb stick

2023-01-27 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 10:26:27 -0800 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > I'm using mediawriter to create a USB boot stick. Works fine. > > I would like to label the USB stick. > > AFAIK mediawriter does not have that option. gparted does not have > that ability either. > > It appears that livecd-tools does

Re: Labling a live usb stick

2023-01-27 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-01-26 at 10:26 -0800, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > I would like to label the USB stick. > > AFAIK mediawriter does not have that option. gparted does not have that > ability either. I'm pretty sure the last time I renamed something I used gparted. There is a "name partition" function in

Labling a live usb stick

2023-01-26 Thread Geoffrey Leach
I'm using mediawriter to create a USB boot stick. Works fine. I would like to label the USB stick. AFAIK mediawriter does not have that option. gparted does not have that ability either. It appears that livecd-tools does, but it appears that it requires a kickstart file. Any suggestions for a

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-11-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Nov 08, 2022 at 12:59:52AM -, Jake D wrote: > I am still getting emails. Unsure if you have actioned this yet. I have, I can confirm you are not subscribed anymore. So, you should likely not get this (or any other emails from the list). If you still do, can you forward directly to m

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-11-07 Thread Jake D
I am still getting emails. Unsure if you have actioned this yet. I have had someone else tell me to use this Pagure website when I was trying to close my Ask Fedora site too, and as I said there: despite repeated attempts my login details do not work to log into that page, which appears to be an

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-11-07 Thread Jake D
Astounding that in the face of someone telling you "You are not helping", your conclusion is to decide you are helpful, pat yourself on the back for it, and declare they have an 'attitude problem'. The lack of anything resembling self-awareness is almost comical, and I'm starting to understand

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-11-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Nov 07, 2022 at 03:23:00AM -, Jake D wrote: ...snip... > > Now, can anyone tell me how to close a HyperKitty account? Or is that also > too much to ask? Theres no seperate HyperKitty account, it's just a Fedora account used to login there. I've gone ahead and unsubscribed you from

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-11-07 Thread Doug Herr
On Sun, Nov 6, 2022, at 5:15 PM, Jake D wrote: > If any new users come looking, my (and his) advice was/is: Don't use Fedora. I think this is a very good thread to have in the archive. I don't think it shows that you should not use Fedora. I think it clearly shows that the community is ready and

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-11-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 02:02 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Most using email for reading and responding rather than the > HyperKitty web > interface to the list probably have no ideas about how to "close a > HyperKitty > account". I have no idea whether I have any such account. My > subscriptions to >

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-11-06 Thread Felix Miata
Joe Zeff composed on 2022-11-06 21:57 (UTC-0700) > Jake D wrote: >> Now, can anyone tell me how to close a HyperKitty account? Or is that also >> too much to ask? > All you need to do is read the footer that the list puts at the bottom > of every message and you will know how to unsubscribe fr

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-11-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/06/2022 08:23 PM, Jake D wrote: Now, can anyone tell me how to close a HyperKitty account? Or is that also too much to ask? All you need to do is read the footer that the list puts at the bottom of every message and you will know how to unsubscribe from the list. __

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-11-06 Thread Jake D
> On Nov 6, 2022, at 20:16, Jake D wrote: > > (I doubt the OP will read this, but in case other new users do…) I dont really have a choice! For some reason every single reply is still being emailed directly to me > I’m part of the Fedora community and while I’ve largely stayed in the > perip

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-11-06 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Nov 6, 2022, at 20:16, Jake D wrote: > > If any new users come looking, my (and his) advice was/is: Don't use Fedora. > > I think the reasons for that are abundantly clear already. I'm not going to > waste his time further. > > I dont really even want to waste my time further, but I can'

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-11-06 Thread Jake D
If any new users come looking, my (and his) advice was/is: Don't use Fedora. I think the reasons for that are abundantly clear already. I'm not going to waste his time further. I dont really even want to waste my time further, but I can't seem to delete my hyperkitty account. That seems to b

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-11-06 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 12:13:44 - "Jake D" wrote: [snip] > many also having been lured onto Fedora ...), and thus I was put in > touch with one of the course tutors. > > I copied my first post through to him, and in about 10 minutes and > two emails of plain, easy language, it was fixed. I d

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-11-06 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 8:13 AM Jake D wrote: > Well, an update. > > [...] I was put in touch with one of the course tutors. > > I copied my first post through to him, and in about 10 minutes and two > emails of plain, easy language, it was fixed. I didn't write down the exact > commands as I was

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-11-06 Thread Jake D
Well, an update. When I left this discussion, it had taken what I would describe diplomatically as an ...unhelpful turn. People were either repeatedly insisting that I "just reinstall" despite my explanations why this was not practical; lecturing me about panic psychology and/or their opinions

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-11-02 Thread Roger Heflin
hdparm has a secure erase option on it that tells the disk to erase the disk via a sata command. I am going to bet it will erase it faster and more completely than using dd. On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 8:30 AM George N. White III wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 8:36 AM Mauricio Tavares wrote: >> >

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-11-02 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 8:36 AM Mauricio Tavares wrote: > On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 4:01 AM Todd Chester via users > wrote: > > > > > > I met with the customer today. She bought a Mac Books instead > > of repairing or replacing her iMac. She plans just to run > > the iMac until bricks. > > >

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-11-02 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 4:01 AM Todd Chester via users wrote: > > > I met with the customer today. She bought a Mac Books instead > of repairing or replacing her iMac. She plans just to run > the iMac until bricks. > Fun fact: a lot of the old iMac make rather decent Linux boxes. > Soldere

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-11-02 Thread Todd Chester via users
On 11/1/22 22:44, Slade Watkins via users wrote: On 11/1/22 11:54 PM, Mauricio Tavares wrote: I second shred. Only issue is that if drive is ssd chances are you will not overwrite every sector. Ditto, as well. Todd, I do not know how old those iMacs are, but some (lampshade) had the drive

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-11-01 Thread Slade Watkins via users
On 11/1/22 11:54 PM, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > I second shred. Only issue is that if drive is ssd chances are you > will not overwrite every sector. Ditto, as well. > > Todd, I do not know how old those iMacs are, but some (lampshade) had > the drives on the base while others have it behind the

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-11-01 Thread Mauricio Tavares
I second shred. Only issue is that if drive is ssd chances are you will not overwrite every sector. Todd, I do not know how old those iMacs are, but some (lampshade) had the drives on the base while others have it behind the motherboard behind the monitor. And some also had the drive soldered to t

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-11-01 Thread Go Canes
When using dd for copying or erasing disks, I typically use bs=1M. For erasing disks I prefer to use the shred utility - multiple passes with various patterns and it displays progress. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-11-01 Thread Roger Heflin
For people that don't want to use a 2nd terminal, and/or are working in single user mode. I usually do the =1M also, and the default for dd has always sucked going back 30+ years. On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 6:56 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 11/1/22 11:13, Roger Heflin wrote: > > I usually add a bs=4

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-11-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/1/22 11:13, Roger Heflin wrote: I usually add a bs=4k or bs=16k or a bs=256k when using dd so the blocksize is larger. That usually makes it quite a bit faster. I usually use at least bs=1M. And if you background the dd you can use "vmstat 1" and the bi/bo columns tell you the actual

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-11-01 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 3:14 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > I usually add a bs=4k or bs=16k or a bs=256k when using dd so the > blocksize is larger. That usually makes it quite a bit faster. fdisk shows block size > > > And if you background the dd you can use "vmstat 1" and the bi/bo > columns tel

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-11-01 Thread Roger Heflin
I usually add a bs=4k or bs=16k or a bs=256k when using dd so the blocksize is larger. That usually makes it quite a bit faster. And if you background the dd you can use "vmstat 1" and the bi/bo columns tell you the actual disk io rates, and you can use that to reliably estimate. Default is 512

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-11-01 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 11:17 PM George N. White III wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 8:51 PM ToddAndMargo via users < > users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I have an upcoming appointment with a customer >> who wants a number of his old computers >> (mostly iMacs) removed

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-11-01 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 5:01 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Jake D wrote: > > Hello all. > > > > I need some help. > > > My opinion: This is probably easier in a live discussion on IRC or Matrix. > There's just too much back and forth required. > > But the absolute

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-10-31 Thread George N. White III
can remove the > drives, I just remove them and give them > to the customer to hit with a hammer. > > But iMacs I will need a glass puller, etc.. > So what I usually do when I can not get the > drive out is to boot into a Linux (Fedora) > Live USB and run > > # dd if=

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-31 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 12:11:57 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: Thank you. > stan via users composed on 2022-10-30 07:23 (UTC-0700): > > >> Finally, I build /boot/grub2/custom.cfg from scratch that uses > >> volume LABELs and symlinks to kernels and initrds, and customize > >> /etc/grub.d/ to cause its e

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/30/22 17:55, Felix Miata wrote: I use ordinary cheap sticky duct tape You know what, since these are being tossed, why not! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/30/22 17:55, Felix Miata wrote: ToddAndMargo via users composed on 2022-10-30 16:51 (UTC-0700): iMacs I will need a glass puller, etc.. I use ordinary cheap sticky duct tape. All the tape or pullers do is overpower magnets that hold the glass in place. Suction cup pullers are cheap and

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-10-30 Thread Felix Miata
ToddAndMargo via users composed on 2022-10-30 16:51 (UTC-0700): > iMacs I will need a glass puller, etc.. I use ordinary cheap sticky duct tape. All the tape or pullers do is overpower magnets that hold the glass in place. Suction cup pullers are cheap and less messy than cleaning tape residue f

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
ar the proper, Apple approved Micky Mouse ears whilst doing it. So what I usually do when I can not get the drive out is to boot into a Linux (Fedora) Live USB and run # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd[x] Where sd[x] is the drive to be blanked. This will write 0x00H across every section of t

Re: Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-10-30 Thread Slade Watkins via users
at I usually do when I can not get the > drive out is to boot into a Linux (Fedora) > Live USB and run > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd[x] > > > Where sd[x] is the drive to be blanked. > This will write 0x00H across every section > of the drive. > > Then give

Can I see an iMac drive with a Live USB?

2022-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
.. So what I usually do when I can not get the drive out is to boot into a Linux (Fedora) Live USB and run # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd[x] Where sd[x] is the drive to be blanked. This will write 0x00H across every section of the drive. Then give it to the computer local charity used computer

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-30 Thread Felix Miata
stan via users composed on 2022-10-30 07:23 (UTC-0700): >> Finally, I build /boot/grub2/custom.cfg from scratch that uses volume >> LABELs and symlinks to kernels and initrds, and customize >> /etc/grub.d/ to cause its entries to head Grub's menu. > I think this means that if you update any of th

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-30 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 28 Oct 2022 18:31:41 - "Jake D" wrote: > I have an internal drive that used to successfully dual boot windows > and a LUKS-encrypted F36 installation with BTRFS. > > I also had some spare unpartitioned space, which I used to fully > install some other linux distros (including another

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-30 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/30/22 07:23, stan via users wrote: On Sat, 29 Oct 2022 18:38:53 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: stan via users composed on 2022-10-29 11:55 (UTC-0700): I hadn't even looked into creating a new partition under /boot/efi/EFI with a unique name, and what would be required for it to work. Is it

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-30 Thread stan via users
On Sat, 29 Oct 2022 18:38:53 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: > stan via users composed on 2022-10-29 11:55 (UTC-0700): > > >> I hadn't even looked into creating a new partition under > >> /boot/efi/EFI with a unique name, and what would be required for > >> it to work. Is it really as simple as changi

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-29 Thread Felix Miata
stan via users composed on 2022-10-29 11:55 (UTC-0700): >> I hadn't even looked into creating a new partition under /boot/efi/EFI >> with a unique name, and what would be required for it to work. Is it >> really as simple as changing GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR= in /etc/default/grub, >> and everything else

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-29 Thread stan via users
On Sat, 29 Oct 2022 11:39:00 -0700 stan via users wrote: > On Sat, 29 Oct 2022 14:09:26 -0400 > Felix Miata wrote: > > > stan via users composed on 2022-10-29 09:21 (UTC-0700): > > > > > UEFI only allows a single > > > version of fedora (or any OS) to boot without some alterations > > > that

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-29 Thread stan via users
On Sat, 29 Oct 2022 14:09:26 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: > stan via users composed on 2022-10-29 09:21 (UTC-0700): > > > UEFI only allows a single > > version of fedora (or any OS) to boot without some alterations that > > are complicated > > Besides making GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR= in /etc/default/gru

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-29 Thread Felix Miata
stan via users composed on 2022-10-29 09:21 (UTC-0700): > UEFI only allows a single > version of fedora (or any OS) to boot without some alterations that are > complicated Besides making GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR= in /etc/default/grub a unique string and applying the change, what are those alterations?

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-29 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 28 Oct 2022 18:31:41 - "Jake D" wrote: > I seem to have got myself in a bit of a mess and I’ve having trouble > finding documentation that I can apply directly to my case . This is > my first time on Linux so I’m not familiar with much of the > terminology or background of these syste

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Oct 29, 2022, at 1:18 AM, Tim via users wrote: > Here's some more advice you probably won't like: Multi-booting (any > computer, any OS) can be a pain, and it may be best to only attempt > that after you've learnt how a system works. Your safest approach to > learning a new system is t

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Oct 29, 2022, at 12:54 AM, Slade Watkins via users wrote: > On 10/28/22 4:27 PM, Jake D wrote: >> I really can't believe that these Linux systems are so fragile and the ONLY >> option is to start over > > Wanted to hop in here real fast and say: > Pop!_OS, which is my primary distro (wit

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Oct 28, 2022, at 7:09 PM, Jake D wrote: > No, it's not a troll. > > Thank-you for your otherwise completely irrelevant , unsolicited and > entirely unhelpful opinion piece. I'm sorry for not realising Windows > upsets you so much and is therefore inferior, and for daring to ask if >

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Oct 28, 2022, at 5:53 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote: > It sounds like you only wiped the /boot partition, which should be > fairly easy to get back. But /boot/grub2 and /boot/loader/entries are on /boot so the real grub.cfg and BLS snippets are gone, which are trivial to create if you

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Oct 28, 2022, at 4:27 PM, Jake D wrote: >> My opinion: This is probably easier in a live discussion on IRC or Matrix. >> There's >> just too much back and forth required. > > Are these different forums? I just googled 'Fedora matrix 'and I'm > getting a lot of very varied hits https:/

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Oct 28, 2022, at 4:21 PM, Jake D wrote: >> HyperKitty is a web front-end for what is really a mailing list. Most >> people here access the list via a standard mailer rather than the web >> interface, which (IMHO) gives better results, including proper quoting. > > I 'm not really sure wha

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/28/22 21:54, Slade Watkins via users wrote: On 10/28/22 4:27 PM, Jake D wrote: I really can't believe that these Linux systems are so fragile and the ONLY option is to start over Wanted to hop in here real fast and say: Pop!_OS, which is my primary distro (with Fedora being my secondary

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2022-10-28 at 23:09 +, Jake D wrote: > No, it's not a troll. It does appear otherwise. > Thank-you for your otherwise completely irrelevant , unsolicited and > entirely unhelpful opinion piece. NB: I responded to you in EXACTLY the same way as your opening post. Go back and read

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Slade Watkins via users
On 10/28/22 4:27 PM, Jake D wrote: > I really can't believe that these Linux systems are so fragile and the ONLY > option is to start over Wanted to hop in here real fast and say: Pop!_OS, which is my primary distro (with Fedora being my secondary), has the option to go into recovery (has a small

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/28/22 16:07, Jake D wrote: Case in point being you own choice to ignore my request to clarify the scatter-shot of previously mentioned commands, in favor of going on a tangent about how "well, all my laptops work", as if all you're really interested in is invalidating me for asking in

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Jake D
> Well the good news is that if it is booting to a grub prompt, it is most > likely not a > problem with the EFI volume, because it is booting into grub. You just need > to regenerate > the contents of the /boot volume, which most importantly needs a kernel, an > initrd and > some grub configu

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Jake D
No, it's not a troll. Thank-you for your otherwise completely irrelevant , unsolicited and entirely unhelpful opinion piece. I'm sorry for not realising Windows upsets you so much and is therefore inferior, and for daring to ask if Linux has similar recovery functionality, after being told th

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Jake D
> That's funny. Randomly delete some system files and the boot partition > and ask a new user to fix it. Good luck. Almost always, even for not > new users, any serious windows problem is solved by reinstalling the system. This is demonstrably not true, but also not relevant and I have no i

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2022-10-28 at 20:27 +, Jake D wrote: > I really can't believe that these Linux systems are so fragile and > the ONLY option is to start over, is there nothing like Resotre > Points in windows? Hmm, hahaha, is this a troll?   Was there anything ever more self-destructive than Windows?

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Oct 28, 2022, at 14:32, Jake D wrote: > > Hello all. > > I need some help. > > Firstly: Please forgive the formatting - I'm new to this medium and not sure > what the accepted conventions are, the HyperKitty interface is ...very basic. > Also please forgive the length, I just don't know

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/28/22 13:14, Jake D wrote: Then you're probably done. This much damage is difficult to repair without some knowledge about what you're doing. I'm curious about all the issues you were having because that's unusual. Did you ask here about those issues? Thats disappointing. I didnt reali

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2022-10-28 at 20:21 +, Jake D wrote: > > > HyperKitty is a web front-end for what is really a mailing list. > > Most > > people here access the list via a standard mailer rather than the > > web > > interface, which (IMHO) gives better results, including proper > > quoting. > > I 'm n

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Go Canes
ting /etc/mnttab in the "Live USB" environment, but /etc/mnttab in > > the chroot environment is not updated. > > I'm sorry but I really dont understand the terminology/jargon here. "Live USB" - the environment you are in when booted off the Live USB, before you

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Jake D
> My opinion: This is probably easier in a live discussion on IRC or Matrix. > There's > just too much back and forth required. Are these different forums? I just googled 'Fedora matrix 'and I'm getting a lot of very varied hits > But the absolute easiest thing to do is mount the encrypted bt

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Jake D
> HyperKitty is a web front-end for what is really a mailing list. Most > people here access the list via a standard mailer rather than the web > interface, which (IMHO) gives better results, including proper quoting. I 'm not really sure what a "standard mailer" is or what you mean by 'mailing

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Jake D
> Do you have any initramfs files in /boot? Not at present, Like I said, it was wiped > Yes. You need to find out which kernel version(s) you have installed in > order to run the following command. I'm sorry, which command? dnf upgrade kernel? Is that also inside chrrot ? > First try "dnf u

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Oct 28, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Jake D wrote: > Hello all. > > I need some help. My opinion: This is probably easier in a live discussion on IRC or Matrix. There's just too much back and forth required. But the absolute easiest thing to do is mount the encrypted btrfs, make a backup of the

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/28/22 12:26, Jake D wrote: What does "ls -l /dev/mapper/fedora_crypt" show? Do I run this from...'within' the 'chroot' thing, or just in the live USB after i do 'luks open'? within the chroot. That's one of the possible places for

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2022-10-28 at 18:31 +, Jake D wrote: > Firstly:  Please forgive the formatting - I'm new to this medium and > not sure what the accepted conventions are, the HyperKitty interface > is ...very basic. HyperKitty is a web front-end for what is really a mailing list. Most people here acces

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Jake D
> Stab in the dark - within the chroot jail maybe it knows about the > mounted *tree* but it doesn't know about the mounts themselves? In > other words, by doing the mounts outside of the chroot, you are > updating /etc/mnttab in the "Live USB" environment, but

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Jake D
> What does "ls -l /dev/mapper/fedora_crypt" show? Do I run this from...'within' the 'chroot' thing, or just in the live USB after i do 'luks open'? > That's one of the possible places for it to write the files. Did it > find the right pl

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Go Canes
jail maybe it knows about the mounted *tree* but it doesn't know about the mounts themselves? In other words, by doing the mounts outside of the chroot, you are updating /etc/mnttab in the "Live USB" environment, but /etc/mnttab in the chroot environment is not updated. If this is the c

Re: How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/28/22 11:31, Jake D wrote: I’ve managed to chroot (a very dumb word) thru a LiveUSB session, with the following commands: It's better not to call things dumb without understanding. It's short for CHange ROOT, which does what it says. cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/nvme0n1p6 fedora_crypt m

How do I rebuild Grub/Boot/initramfs from a Live USB?

2022-10-28 Thread Jake D
Hello all. I need some help. Firstly: Please forgive the formatting - I'm new to this medium and not sure what the accepted conventions are, the HyperKitty interface is ...very basic. Also please forgive the length, I just don't know how to make it shorter without losing potentially relevant

Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

2021-11-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 22/11/2021 11:47, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/19/21 14:47, linux guy wrote: Aside An interesting thing happened when I installed F35 on the USB SSD drive using the Live USB drive :  it chose a plain old file system instead of LVM. $ df -h Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev

Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

2021-11-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/19/21 14:47, linux guy wrote: Aside An interesting thing happened when I installed F35 on the USB SSD drive using the Live USB drive :  it chose a plain old file system instead of LVM. $ df -h Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3   465G  4.7G  459G   1% / /dev

Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

2021-11-19 Thread linux guy
# hdparm -Tt /dev/sda /dev/sda: Timing cached reads: 30886 MB in 2.00 seconds = 15463.41 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 1046 MB in 3.01 seconds = 348.01 MB/sec ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

2021-11-19 Thread linux guy
d to doing maintenance work with a slow Live USB drive. THis USB SSD is a fast Cadillac compared to them. I am now very happy with my "maintenance" drive. I should have done this years ago. The drive gets warm to the touch during regular use, but nothing alarming so far. Aside An intere

Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

2021-11-19 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 12:04, linux guy wrote: > Thanks for all the advice. > > How does one use a discarded NVME SSD drive ? If it is SATA, put it in an > external enclosure ? > There are 3 common types of SSD drives, NVME and SATA NGFF (Next Gen Form Factor?) that use M.2 slots, and legacy (O

Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

2021-11-19 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, linux guy said: > The USB flash recovery OS is extremely slow compared to a Live OS. It is > slow even when I ssh into it and not run a window manager. Why ? What > can I change to make it faster ? IIRC the LiveOS image is run from a squashfs-compressed filesystem, which pr

Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

2021-11-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 11:34:37 -0700 linux guy wrote: > What > can I change to make it faster ? There are fantastic speed variations for different brand USB sticks. When I set up my 64GB stick, I got the Sandisk "Ultra Trek" specifically because reviews of USB sticks said it was the fastest USB 3 s

Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

2021-11-19 Thread linux guy
The USB flash recovery OS is extremely slow compared to a Live OS. It is slow even when I ssh into it and not run a window manager. Why ? What can I change to make it faster ? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe sen

Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

2021-11-19 Thread linux guy
Thanks for all the advice. How does one use a discarded NVME SSD drive ? If it is SATA, put it in an external enclosure ? I installed F35 Workstation on a 256GB USB3 flash drive. It boots and works, but it is slower than the Live version. Why would that be ? Are there any special settings I

Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

2021-11-19 Thread George N. White III
ything set up to where I was the last time I > booted. > > One can supposedly make Live USB images persistent, but 1) it didn't work > when I tried it and 2) there are limitations, including that do a major > upgrade to the Live installation. (ie, no dnf updates) > > So... I&

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