Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-09 Thread JB
Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > ... > # cfdisk -Ps > FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 2: Partition ends in the final partial > cylinder > Hi, the error response shows incorrect partition # (it should be 3). A patch has been submitted to cfdisk. JB -- users mailing list users@lis

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-08 Thread James McKenzie
Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Wed August 4 2010, Clive Hills wrote: > >> 3 Primary 615401955 625137344 0 9735390 CP/M / CTOS / . (DB) >> None >> >> >> What I find amazing in all of this is that no one has asked what 's on >> sda3. I mean CPM/CTOS. That's pretty unlikely in 2010! Wha

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-06 Thread Gregory Hosler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2010 11:24 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Fri, 6 Aug 2010, Gregory Hosler wrote: > >> may, in fact, not be reclaimable -- in Linux, partitioning is usually done on >> cyl boundaries). > > Would you expound on that a bit? The default behav

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-06 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010, Gregory Hosler wrote: > may, in fact, not be reclaimable -- in Linux, partitioning is usually done on > cyl boundaries). Would you expound on that a bit? I've often seen *fdisk complain that a partition did not end on a cyl boundary. I've also read that cyl boundaries are not

how not to initialize HD

2010-08-06 Thread JB
Gregory Hosler redhat.com> writes: > ... Hi, FYI. This is from the dev team member. From: Karel Zak Subject: Re: cfdisk - logical partition Newsgroups: gmane.linux.utilities.util-linux-ng Date: 2010-08-06 13:18:37 GMT (35 minutes ago) On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 01:26:27PM +0200, J B wrote: > Exam

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-06 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri August 6 2010, JB wrote: > Paul, > but the disk we debugged together recently (the one with your Media Direct) > was after that partitioned with F13 live cd (anaconda) ? yes! and working fine right now! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- users mailing list users@lists.

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-06 Thread Gregory Hosler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2010 04:49 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 03:55:05 + (UTC), JB wrote: > >> JB yahoo.com> writes: >> >> Hi, >> let me follow the previous post with another example. >> >> One more "rule to follow" with regard to partitio

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-06 Thread Gregory Hosler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2010 11:55 AM, JB wrote: > JB yahoo.com> writes: > > Hi, > let me follow the previous post with another example. > > One more "rule to follow" with regard to partitions: > http://www.lissot.net/partition/partition-03.html > ... > Unlike pri

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-06 Thread JB
Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > > On Thu August 5 2010, JB wrote: > > Now another example of a disk layout (also Paul Cartwright's, but a > > different computer - Dell XPS desktops): > > Btw Paul, is that disk also partitioned by Anaconda tool ? > > no, that was done by Debian I thin

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-06 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thu August 5 2010, JB wrote: > Now another example of a disk layout (also Paul Cartwright's, but a > different computer - Dell XPS desktops): > Btw Paul, is that disk also partitioned by Anaconda tool ? no, that was done by Debian I think.. I think.. that was a few years ago 4-5 maybe.. -- P

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 03:55:05 + (UTC), JB wrote: > JB yahoo.com> writes: > > Hi, > let me follow the previous post with another example. > > One more "rule to follow" with regard to partitions: > http://www.lissot.net/partition/partition-03.html > ... > Unlike primary partitions, logical part

how not to initialize HD

2010-08-05 Thread JB
JB yahoo.com> writes: Hi, let me follow the previous post with another example. One more "rule to follow" with regard to partitions: http://www.lissot.net/partition/partition-03.html ... Unlike primary partitions, logical partitions must be contiguous. Each logical partition contains a pointer t

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-04 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed August 4 2010, Clive Hills wrote: >  3 Primary   615401955   625137344      0     9735390 CP/M / CTOS / . (DB) > None > > > What I find amazing in all of this is that no one has asked what 's on > sda3. I mean CPM/CTOS. That's pretty unlikely in 2010! What does that > partition contain? > -

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-04 Thread Clive Hills
> > cfdisk -Ps > Partition Table for /dev/sda > > First Last > # Type Sector Sector OffsetLength Filesystem Type (ID) > Flag > -- --- --- --- -- --- > > 1 Primary 0 128519 63 1

Re: Dell MediaDirect and GRUB (was: how not to initialize HD)

2010-08-03 Thread Darr
On Tuesday, 03 August, 2010 @10:57 zulu, Paul Cartwright scribed: > On Mon August 2 2010, Darr wrote: >> However, if that is the hard disk that came in your Dell, >> MediaDirect is ALREADY installed... you just can't see >> it because from the factory it was installed in a hidden >> partition at t

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-03 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tue August 3 2010, JB wrote: > Hi Paul, > could you please give me an output of: > # cfdisk -Ps cfdisk -Ps Partition Table for /dev/sda First Last # Type Sector Sector OffsetLength Filesystem Type (ID) Flag -- --- --- --- -- ---

how not to initialize HD

2010-08-03 Thread JB
Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > ... > here is my Dell XPS desktops fdisk: > ... Hi Paul, could you please give me an output of: # cfdisk -Ps JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-03 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 19:29 -0400, Darr wrote: > MediaDirect 1 and 2 were installed in hidden partitions that > partitioning utils simply cannot see. That would depend on the tools that you use. Various tools can show hidden partitions. They're not hidden from drive prepping tools, they're jus

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-03 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tue August 3 2010, Thomas Taylor wrote: > I beg to differ on that.  My Dell Studio 1745 which came with the "hidden" > partition shows up clearly in Gparted (PartedMagic).  Found that out the > hard way when the windblows 7 blew up and the restore function failed. >  Something had creames that "

Re: Dell MediaDirect and GRUB (was: how not to initialize HD)

2010-08-03 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon August 2 2010, Darr wrote: > However, if that is the hard disk that came in your Dell, > MediaDirect is ALREADY installed... you just can't see > it because from the factory it was installed in a hidden > partition at the end. In that cased all you should need to > do is fix LBA0 - the MBR -

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-03 Thread Thomas Taylor
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 19:29:22 -0400 "Darr" wrote: > On Monday, 02 August, 2010 @12:46 zulu, Paul Cartwright scribed: > > > not a matter of getting RID of it, it's GONE, since I redid my > > partitions.. reclaimed space :) > > wonder what happens if I press that button NOW..."NO, DON'T DO IT > > :-

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-02 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon August 2 2010, Darr wrote: > > not a matter of getting RID of it, it's GONE, since I redid my > > partitions.. reclaimed space :) > > wonder what happens if I press that button NOW..."NO, DON'T DO IT > > > > :-0)" > > If that's the drive that came in your Dell, no - you didn't get rid of it.

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-02 Thread Darr
On Monday, 02 August, 2010 @12:46 zulu, Paul Cartwright scribed: > not a matter of getting RID of it, it's GONE, since I redid my > partitions.. reclaimed space :) > wonder what happens if I press that button NOW..."NO, DON'T DO IT > :-0)" If that's the drive that came in your Dell, no - you didn

Dell MediaDirect and GRUB (was: how not to initialize HD)

2010-08-02 Thread Darr
Hi Paul, First, just to be clear, MediaDirect is like its own OS. When you use the MediaDirect button from the off state, it sets a bit that's detected when the MBR is loaded (just like Ctrl+F11 does to access the restore partition), then makes the hidden partition active and boots MediaDirect.

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-02 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 08:46 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > wonder what happens if I press that button NOW..."NO, DON'T DO > IT :-0)" I wouldn't. I've read tales of people who've pressed such buttons. The computer has some simple firmware that loads software from certain partitions. If your dri

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-02 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon August 2 2010, Tim wrote: > Do you use it? > > Is yours one of those computers with buttons that specially boot up the > computer from the special partition, and get upset when it's not > present, and the button is somewhere that you might accidentally press? > yeah, I think I actually press

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-02 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 06:44 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > now how do I get my media-direct partition back:) > or really, do I NEED it.. Do you use it? Is yours one of those computers with buttons that specially boot up the computer from the special partition, and get upset when it's not present

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-02 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon August 2 2010, JB wrote: > I think your instict is telling you the right thing. > Stick with us, Linux/UNIX boyz and girls, and soon you will forget there is > anything like Windows on your hard disk. > I did it long time ago -:) well, I've been using linux on my desktop for many ye

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-02 Thread JB
Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > > On Mon August 2 2010, JB wrote: > > this thread (investigation) proves that people should be more careful in > > generalizing solutions ("... removing all the existing partitions ..."). > > Time permitting, a step-by-step (partition-by-partition) appr

how not to initialize HD

2010-08-02 Thread JB
Gregory Hosler redhat.com> writes: > ... > The partitions created in the extended partition are commonly refereed to as > "logical partitions". In Linux you may have up to 11 logical partitions. > ... > Any disk in the extended partition that is not mapped by a logical > partition, is

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-02 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon August 2 2010, JB wrote: > this thread (investigation) proves that people should be more careful in > generalizing solutions ("... removing all the existing partitions ..."). > Time permitting, a step-by-step (partition-by-partition) approach to > removal and reorganization (incl. resizing)

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-02 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon August 2 2010, JB wrote: > >    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System > > /dev/sdb1               1        1011     2005793    b  W95 FAT32 > > What is it ? oh, sorry, I had plugged in a USB stick to transfer the screen shot of cfdisk! -- Paul Cartwright Registered

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-02 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon August 2 2010, Darr wrote: > >> Does your Dell have a MediaDirect button next to the Power button, > >> Paul? > > > > I have media buttons on the front of my laptop, to play, sound > > up/down... I think it is windows Media center version, I think.. I > > If your Dell has a DirectMedia butto

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-02 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun August 1 2010, Darr wrote: > > Does mediaDirect need 1308MB (i.e. 1.3 GB) > > be unallocated or was that a typo? > do I NEED media-direct installed? > It usually takes tools supplied by the disk manufacturer > to restore the HDD to its original capacity after MediaDirect > has been install

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 08:54:39 + (UTC), JB wrote: > Also note the following in 'cfdisk -Ps' output: > - entries are in disk order (as opposed to 'fdisk -l') Which doesn't imply that it would be a good thing. Btw, fdisk can fix the partition table order in expert mode with 'f'. -- users mailing

how not to initialize HD

2010-08-02 Thread JB
Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > ... Hi, what a nice and educational set of outputs. I think some final thoughts are justified. Anybody who tries to diminish the value of cfdisk, also in diagnosing problems (by ignoring its warning/error messages), is misleading. $ man fdisk

how not to initialize HD

2010-08-02 Thread JB
JB yahoo.com> writes: > ... > Solution. > To fix the above issue, you should correct the present disk layout. You can > perform this by removing all the existing partitions and creating new ones. > > Stay tuned. > JB > Hi, this thread (investigation) proves that people should be more careful

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Darr
On Sunday, 01 August, 2010 @21:10 zulu, Paul Cartwright scribed: >> Does your Dell have a MediaDirect button next to the Power button, >> Paul? > I have media buttons on the front of my laptop, to play, sound > up/down... I think it is windows Media center version, I think.. I If your Dell has

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Darr
On Sunday, 01 August, 2010 @16:34 zulu, Gregory Hosler scribed: > Then you weren't looking closely. > > - From the original post: > > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 12161 cylinders > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 * 1446235840983

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Darr
On Sunday, 01 August, 2010 @15:04 zulu, JD scribed: > Does mediaDirect need 1308MB (i.e. 1.3 GB) > be unallocated or was that a typo? Not a typo... some people recommended leaving 2GB unallocated, but instructions I found elsewhere were specific about 1308MB (that's 1.27GiB, btw). Dell doesn't g

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun August 1 2010, JB wrote: > ... I mean wonders happen if you really try :-))) I've BEEN trying, just took a while to get the RIGHT answer:) > > Btw, settle down with regular partitions layout first. > Forget LVM for now, it may get you into trouble again ... > > Let us know about that 'cfdis

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun August 1 2010, Darr wrote: > I prefer using the gnome partition editor, myself (rather than > partition magic)... it gives a nice user-friendly GUI so you > can see what you're doing. The version I use comes in a > 261MB bootable ISO from http://sysresccd.org/Download > so the file systems c

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Gregory Hosler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/01/2010 10:47 PM, Darr wrote: > On Sunday, 01 August, 2010 @04:08 zulu, Gregory Hosler scribed: > >> Now, looking at your logical partitions (with minor rearrangement to >> make things more obvious): >> >>> /dev/sda54718 --> 5961

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread JD
On 08/01/2010 07:47 AM, Darr wrote: > snip... > I'm wondering if the OP needs to 'unallocate' 1308MB on the > end of the disk for CyberLink's MediaDirect (a real battery > stretcher when using the laptop as a portable DVD player, > since it let's you watch them without fully loading an OS). > > D

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Darr
On Sunday, 01 August, 2010 @04:08 zulu, Gregory Hosler scribed: > Now, looking at your logical partitions (with minor rearrangement to > make things more obvious): > >> /dev/sda54718 --> 5961 9989120 83 Linux >> /dev/sda65962 --> 809417133291 83 Linux >

how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread JB
Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > > On Sun August 1 2010, JB wrote: > > You can consider nuking everything except Win XP partition and then > > organize it properly for the next 10 years or so ... with smartly > > preallocated primary partitions and the extended one. > > Somehaow I hope

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun August 1 2010, JB wrote: > You can consider nuking everything except Win XP partition and then > organize it properly for the next 10 years or so ... with smartly > preallocated primary partitions and the extended one. > Somehaow I hope that this would get rid of that cfdisk error message as

how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread JB
Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > ... > Fedora 13 live cd > > Solution. > > To fix the above issue, you should correct the present disk layout. You can > >  perform this by removing all the existing partitions and creating new > > ones. > not sure if that is possible. Live cd doesn't see

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun August 1 2010, JB wrote: > Also I need to know what do you use to install your Fedora, version > (this is important: Fedora 12 or 13 ?), live cd ? Fedora 13 live cd > > In the meantime, please read some newly added comments from Tom and > Gregory. > yup.. did that! > Solution. > To fix the

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun August 1 2010, JB wrote: > We still have an option of nuking the extended partion at once and see if > that changes anything. After that there is only Win XP partition left. > I will ask Paul, when he comes back, to run his Fedora installer with > selected Custom Layout option and we will se

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun August 1 2010, Tom H wrote: > > sda2 is the original Dell recscue partition, there is no way I'd ever use > > it again.. but I copied it to sda8 anyway.. > > You might want to re-install XP at some point. > -- actually, I already did, a while back.. Once before, I tried the fedora install,

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun August 1 2010, Tom H wrote: > As a concrete example, Debian (and therefore Ubuntu), in its default > set up, mounts / on sda1 and swap on sda5 (with sda2 as an extended > partition) so having sda3 rather than sda4 as an extended partition > isn't a problem. > > The sda7/sda8 situation is str

how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread JB
Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > ... Hi Paul, I reset the thread to the left origin to make it easier to follow now. I hope you are in a good mood and ready to help us and yourself debug the problem. We will try to save your Win XP installation, but we can not promise it to you -:). L

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Sat July 31 2010, JB wrote: >> > > /dev/sda1   *           1        4462    35840983+   7  HPFS/NTFS >> > > /dev/sda3            4718       12162    59793409    5  Extended >> > > Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. >> > > /de

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Sat July 31 2010, JB wrote: > /dev/sda1   *           1        4462    35840983+   7  HPFS/NTFS > /dev/sda2            4463        4717     2048287+   e  W95 FAT16 (LBA) > /dev/sda3            4718       12162    59793409    5  Extended

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 5:11 PM, JB wrote: > > good to hear from you. I hoped that Tom and Marko would join us again, but > they are lurking only and are reluctant a bit :) Was out, LOL. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://ad

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Sat July 31 2010, JB wrote: >> this is part 2. >> Above you see your disk layout. >> You have noticed that there is one primary partition missing - the sda3 >> should be a primary partition (even if unused free space), the extended >> pa

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:52 PM, JB wrote: > Tom H gmail.com> writes: >> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:25 PM, JB yahoo.com> wrote: >> > JB yahoo.com> writes: >> > >> > # fdisk -l >> > ... >> >   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System >> > /dev/sda1   *           1        4462  

how not to initialize HD

2010-08-01 Thread JB
Gregory Hosler redhat.com> writes: > > There is nothing "screwed up" with the partition table. > > There are 3 primary partitions instead of 4. no big deal. the extended > partition is #3 instead of #4. Again. no big deal. And finally, > the logicals are out of order. Again, no big deal. None o

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Gregory Hosler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/01/2010 01:43 AM, JB wrote: > Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > >> ... > > Hi, > great job ! > I want to do some things with your disk, but in a controlled manner - please > do not get excited, just deliberately follow the instructio

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Gregory Hosler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/01/2010 01:47 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Sat July 31 2010, you wrote: >> The fdisk -l must be done as root. >> >>> I can't copy & paste because I am not on that laptop right now.. >> >> The above output (which you haven't provided, yet) will

how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread JB
Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > > > and give me display of: > > # fdisk -l > >  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System > /dev/sda1   *           1        4462    35840983+   7  HPFS/NTFS > /dev/sda3            4718       12162    59793409    5  Extended > Par

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat July 31 2010, JB wrote: > > > /dev/sda1   *           1        4462    35840983+   7  HPFS/NTFS > > > /dev/sda3            4718       12162    59793409    5  Extended > > > Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. > > > /dev/sda5            4718        5961     9989120   83  Linux > >

how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread JB
Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > > On Sat July 31 2010, JB wrote: > >    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System > > /dev/sda1   *           1        4462    35840983+   7  HPFS/NTFS > > /dev/sda3            4718       12162    59793409    5  Extended > > Partition

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat July 31 2010, JB wrote: >    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System > /dev/sda1   *           1        4462    35840983+   7  HPFS/NTFS > /dev/sda3            4718       12162    59793409    5  Extended > Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. > /dev/sda5        

how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread JB
Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > > On Sat July 31 2010, JB wrote: > /dev/sda1   *           1        4462    35840983+   7  HPFS/NTFS > /dev/sda2            4463        4717     2048287+   e  W95 FAT16 (LBA) > /dev/sda3            4718       12162    59793409    5  Extended > Partition

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat July 31 2010, JB wrote: /dev/sda1   *           1        4462    35840983+   7  HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda2            4463        4717     2048287+   e  W95 FAT16 (LBA) /dev/sda3            4718       12162    59793409    5  Extended Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda5        

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat July 31 2010, JB wrote: > # fdisk -l >   > Can you do this now ? If so, give me the display. > # cfdisk -Ps > > In any case, reboot your system to make sure the new partition table was > filed. rebooted.. > Return to your Linux again and your terminal. > Check again and tell me what works (

how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread JB
Darr core.com> writes: > > I agree that 3 primaries don't need to be used before an extended partition > is created for logical volumes (I've done 1 primary and 1 extended before, > too), but why is there no /sda4 ? > > i.e. If the extended partition was /sda2 would the first logical volume

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Mike Wright
Darr wrote: > I agree that 3 primaries don't need to be used before an extended partition > is created for logical volumes (I've done 1 primary and 1 extended before, > too), but why is there no /sda4 ? > > i.e. If the extended partition was /sda2 would the first logical volume > *still* be /sd

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Darr
I agree that 3 primaries don't need to be used before an extended partition is created for logical volumes (I've done 1 primary and 1 extended before, too), but why is there no /sda4 ? i.e. If the extended partition was /sda2 would the first logical volume *still* be /sda5? -- users mailing

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread JB
Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > > On Sat July 31 2010, JB wrote: > > # cfdisk -Ps > > FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 2: Partition ends in the final partial > > cylinder > > > > That's the one making trouble, and you indicated we can get rid of it now). > > ... > > /dev/sda2      

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat July 31 2010, JB wrote: > # cfdisk -Ps > FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 2: Partition ends in the final partial > cylinder > > That's the one making trouble, and you indicated we can get rid of it now). > ... > /dev/sda2            4463        4717     2048287+   e  W95 FAT16 (LBA) > ...

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread JB
Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > > sda2 is the original Dell recscue partition, there is no way I'd ever use it > again.. but I copied it to sda8 anyway.. > Hi Paul, good to hear from you. I hoped that Tom and Marko would join us again, but they are lurking only and are reluctant a b

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat July 31 2010, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Since the OP claims that this setup works well with both Windows and Ubuntu > but not with Fedora, my advice would be to burn a Fedora Live CD, boot it, > and do a fdisk -l again to see if Fedora provides some different kind of > output. That might give

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Robert Nichols
On 07/31/2010 02:02 PM, JB wrote: > Marko Vojinovic gmail.com> writes: > >> >> The above partition table looks completely OK, AFAIK. And I have never seen >> Anaconda insisting on reinitializing the partition table except on a brand >> new, unformatted drive. >> ... >> Marko >> > Hi Marko, > plea

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat July 31 2010, JB wrote: > this is part 2. > Above you see your disk layout. > You have noticed that there is one primary partition missing - the sda3 > should be a primary partition (even if unused free space), the extended > partition would be sda4, and the logical partitions would be sda5,

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread JB
JB yahoo.com> writes: > > Marko Vojinovic gmail.com> writes: > > > > > The above partition table looks completely OK, AFAIK. And I have never seen > > Anaconda insisting on reinitializing the partition table except on a brand > > new, unformatted drive. > > ... > > Marko > > > Hi Marko, >

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread JB
Marko Vojinovic gmail.com> writes: > > The above partition table looks completely OK, AFAIK. And I have never seen > Anaconda insisting on reinitializing the partition table except on a brand > new, unformatted drive. > ... > Marko > Hi Marko, please read my new post before yours, under Tom.

how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread JB
Tom H gmail.com> writes: > > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:25 PM, JB yahoo.com> wrote: > > JB yahoo.com> writes: > > > > # fdisk -l > > > > ... > >   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System > > /dev/sda1   *           1        4462    35840983+   7  HPFS/NTFS > > /dev/sda2    

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday, July 31, 2010 19:25:50 JB wrote: > JB yahoo.com> writes: > > ... > > # fdisk -l > > Disk /dev/sda: 100.0 GB, 100030242816 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 12161 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:25 PM, JB wrote: > JB yahoo.com> writes: > > # fdisk -l > > Disk /dev/sda: 100.0 GB, 100030242816 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 12161 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > I/O size (m

how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread JB
JB yahoo.com> writes: > ... # fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 100.0 GB, 100030242816 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 12161 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifie

how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread JB
Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > ... Hi, great job ! I want to do some things with your disk, but in a controlled manner - please do not get excited, just deliberately follow the instructions. We will try to save the disk (which seems to have its partition table screwed up), first "th

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat July 31 2010, JB wrote: >   #  <-- not the root prompt ! > - give us the output (please do not cut/edit it; do not tell us that it > said something ...; just copy and paste it for us, whatever it is !) # > fdisk -l >   # fdisk -l /dev/sda >   # cfdisk -Ps > - can you see a di

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread JB
Paul Cartwright pcartwright.com> writes: > ... > hm, fdisk -l just returns my prompt back, no entry shown. > fdisk /dev/sda says it cannot open that. > > Paul, please follow me: - make sure you are signed in as root (su followed by root password) $ su ... # <-- not the root

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat July 31 2010, James Mckenzie wrote: > There is and always has been a limit of 4 physical partitions.  Fedora, for > some strange reason, wants to put a /boot in the mix if you try to boot off > of a LVM.  I had both as physical partitions (all of the space in the > logical is taken).  When I

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread James Mckenzie
Gregory Hosler wrote: >Sent: Jul 31, 2010 4:37 AM >To: Community support for Fedora users >Subject: Re: how not to initialize HD > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >On 07/31/2010 06:38 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: >> I don't know why, but I

Re: how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Gregory Hosler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/31/2010 06:38 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > I don't know why, but I keep trying to install Fedora on my laptop. The last > time I did it , it told me it had to initialize my HD, and I stupidly said > YES. And it did. Wiped out my XP/Ubuntu setup

how not to initialize HD

2010-07-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
I don't know why, but I keep trying to install Fedora on my laptop. The last time I did it , it told me it had to initialize my HD, and I stupidly said YES. And it did. Wiped out my XP/Ubuntu setup. I reinstalled XP , and I tried AGAIN, and it still wants to initialize my HD. This is a Dell 10