Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: > > On 12/16/14 22:32, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: > >> Hm, could it be due to 'kernel' missing here? >> > > Apparently not: > > "Moreover, the currently booted kernel package is always protected." > > (from

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/17/14 05:51, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: > On 12/16/14 22:32, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: >> Hm, could it be due to 'kernel' missing here? > > Apparently not: > > "Moreover, the currently booted kernel package is always protected." > > (from >

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/16/14 22:32, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: Hm, could it be due to 'kernel' missing here? Apparently not: "Moreover, the currently booted kernel package is always protected." (from ) So, still strange that

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/16/14 22:23, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: Nah, still wants to remove the running kernel... Hm, could it be due to 'kernel' missing here? # ll /etc/{yum,dnf}/protected.d/* -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4 Dec 9 12:36 /etc/dnf/protected.d/dnf.conf -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 8 Nov 27 15:07 /etc/yum/pro

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/16/14 22:16, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Upgrades to Fedora 22 should get it. I have added both dnf and the core plugin as default packages to the base group. Good! What I was suggesting is to Lars is to install the plugin manually now and test whether that explains the difference. Nah, st

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 09:39:29PM +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: > > >How come our systems behave differently? > > >Make sure you have dnf-plugins-core installed > > Shouldn't that package be a requirement of dnf, and due to tha

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/16/2014 12:58 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: OK. That would mean that there are situations where the 'dnf erase kernel' safeguard doesn't work either. Perhaps it would be better to move this particular safeguard into dnf? I know from experience that yum has that safeguard. (It came in ve

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/16/14 21:53, Matthew Miller wrote: There are some situations where it'd be nice to have DNF but the plugin behavior isn't necessary. So a hard dependency isn't ideal. And we OK. That would mean that there are situations where the 'dnf erase kernel' safeguard doesn't work either. Perhaps

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 09:39:29PM +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: > >How come our systems behave differently? > >Make sure you have dnf-plugins-core installed > Shouldn't that package be a requirement of dnf, and due to that be > installed automatically if dnf is installed? There are some si

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/16/14 21:34, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: How come our systems behave differently? Make sure you have dnf-plugins-core installed Shouldn't that package be a requirement of dnf, and due to that be installed automatically if dnf is

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: > > > How come our systems behave differently? > > Make sure you have dnf-plugins-core installed Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/16/14 09:31, Jan Zelený wrote: On 15. 12. 2014 at 13:03:54, Chris Murphy wrote: ... I suggest being really skeptical of dnf erase suggestions. It can be brutal (don't try dnf erase kernel for example, it'll remove all kernels including the running one). This is not true, the issue was f

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 15. 12. 2014 at 22:10:21, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:34:30 AM Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Question: why do stuff like createrepo, fedup, livecd-tools, etc still > > depend on yum? Should they be made to depend on dnf now, in which case, > > should there be a bug report

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 15. 12. 2014 at 10:34:30, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going away in > favor dnf, I was trying to get used to the latter. Because the former is so > ingrained in me, I was trying to get rid of it from the system so that not > having it avail

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 15. 12. 2014 at 13:03:54, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Ranjan Maitra > > wrote: > > Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going away in > > favor dnf, I was trying to get used to the latter. Because the former is > > so ingrained in me, I was tr

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 15. 12. 2014 at 17:23:48, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:46:53 + > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 10:34 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going > > > away in favor dnf, I was trying to get

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-15 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going away in > favor dnf, I was trying to get used to the latter. Because the former is so > ingrained in me, I was trying to get rid of it from the system so that not > having

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-15 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:46:53 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 10:34 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going > > away in favor dnf, I was trying to get used to the latter. Because > > the former is so ingrained in me

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 10:34 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going > away in favor dnf, I was trying to get used to the latter. Because the > former is so ingrained in me, I was trying to get rid of it from the > system so that not having it

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-15 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:34:30 AM Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Question: why do stuff like createrepo, fedup, livecd-tools, etc still > depend on yum? Should they be made to depend on dnf now, in which case, > should there be a bug report on this? Yum isn't going anywhere anytime soon. DNF doesn'

getting rid of yum

2014-12-15 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going away in favor dnf, I was trying to get used to the latter. Because the former is so ingrained in me, I was trying to get rid of it from the system so that not having it available would force me to think and thus get used to dnf.