Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-12-11 Thread Roger Heflin
It is almost certainly going to be a memory issue. In fact earlier today Firefox made my 32G windows 11 device mostly useless (not a complete lockup for anything but firefox, but everything else was horribly slow). I have had to kill firefox on multiple different websites and multiple different m

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-12-11 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 27 Nov 2023, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sat, 25 Nov 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: Hardware issues do not typically leave the machine up (except for intel/amd throttling down when getting hot, but even that will crash if it gets bad enough).install kernel-tools and run turbostat it will

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-27 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 25 Nov 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: Hardware issues do not typically leave the machine up (except for intel/amd throttling down when getting hot, but even that will crash if it gets bad enough).install kernel-tools and run turbostat it will show the cpu freqs and cpu temps. My CPU is

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-25 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> So, come OS install and update times, I tend to open a box, inspect >> heatsinks, clean it, and reseat all the connections.  Having a spare >> power supply to swap over is handy, too.  They don't always age >> well, especially the bargain basement types. > Joe Zeff: > Have you ever used a

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-25 Thread Roger Heflin
Only if freezing includes the machine crashing.If the machine is not crashing and it recovers from the freeze without a reboot/power cycle then we are back to memory/paging being a problem. Note I have seen swapping act as badly. And it may only be every so often that it runs out of ram.M

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/25/2023 12:08 AM, Tim via users wrote: So, come OS install and update times, I tend to open a box, inspect heatsinks, clean it, and reseat all the connections. Having a spare power supply to swap over is handy, too. They don't always age well, especially the bargain basement types. Have

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-25 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 2:08 AM Tim wrote: > > On Fri, 2023-11-24 at 21:02 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > You are having far too many problems with too many programs. The > > common fixes are not helping. > > Remembering tales from long ago - how updating an OS often seemed to > induce faults in

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-24 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2023-11-24 at 21:02 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > You are having far too many problems with too many programs. The > common fixes are not helping. Remembering tales from long ago - how updating an OS often seemed to induce faults in hardware that was apparently working fine before. There

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 8:57 PM Michael Hennebry wrote: > > chromium is freezing on me now, too. > journalctl -r -g romium > does not reveal any errors or warnings. > > -- > Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu > "His longhand was fairly good in his youth, but as he got older it got > smaller

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-24 Thread Michael Hennebry
chromium is freezing on me now, too. journalctl -r -g romium does not reveal any errors or warnings. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "His longhand was fairly good in his youth, but as he got older it got smaller, more scribbly, and harder to read; although, like being hanged, one can

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-24 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: I'm saying it wasn't a memory thing. Here are some example lines that I saw. They were all together at the time that firefox was stuck. rtkit-daemon[1090]: Successfully made thread 7825 of process 6769 (/usr/lib64/firefox/firefox) owned by '1000' RT at

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 17:37, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 17:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you checked the journal?  I had this happen on a computer that definitely wasn't low on memory and the journal had a bunc

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 17:37, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 17:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you checked the journal?  I had this happen on a computer that definitely wasn't low on memory and the journal had a bunc

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 17:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you checked the journal?  I had this happen on a computer that definitely wasn't low on memory and the journal had a bunch of messages from firefox about timeouts.

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 17:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you checked the journal?  I had this happen on a computer that definitely wasn't low on memory and the journal had a bunch of messages from firefox about timeouts. journalctl  and then what? I used "jou

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you checked the journal? I had this happen on a computer that definitely wasn't low on memory and the journal had a bunch of messages from firefox about timeouts. journalctl and then what? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 23 Nov 2023 at 18:53, Michael Hennebry wrote: Date sent: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 18:53:41 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Hennebry To: noloa...@gmail.com, Community support for Fedora users Subject:Re: firefox keeps freezing on

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 16:53, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 2:21?PM Michael Hennebry wrote: By now, I am fairly sure that the reason firefox freezes on me is neither a lack of memory nor a lack of CPU. My inference is that it is waiting for s

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 2:21?PM Michael Hennebry wrote: By now, I am fairly sure that the reason firefox freezes on me is neither a lack of memory nor a lack of CPU. My inference is that it is waiting for something. How do I discover what? I would

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 2:21 PM Michael Hennebry wrote: > > By now, I am fairly sure that the reason firefox freezes > on me is neither a lack of memory nor a lack of CPU. > My inference is that it is waiting for something. > How do I discover what? I would investigate the virtual memory system.

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Michael Hennebry
By now, I am fairly sure that the reason firefox freezes on me is neither a lack of memory nor a lack of CPU. My inference is that it is waiting for something. How do I discover what? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the su

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-03 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 3 Nov 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/03/2023 11:50 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: 210    linkedin.com 146    yahoo.com  88    yahoo.net  63    linkedin.com Why do you have both an extension and a tab for linkedin.com, and extensions for both yahoo.com and yahoo.net? I have more

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-03 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 3 Nov 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: How much ram does the machine firefox is running on have? 8 G $ free -h totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 7.7Gi 4.1Gi 882Mi 572Mi 2.7Gi 2.7Gi Swap: 7.7G

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-03 Thread Roger Heflin
\ On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 12:57 PM Michael Hennebry wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Nov 2023, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > > here are the top memory entries from about:processes: > > 872firefox > > 555weather.com > > 254imasdk.googleapis.com > > 210linkedin.com > > 204Extensions > > 146

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-03 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/03/2023 11:50 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: 210    linkedin.com 146    yahoo.com  88    yahoo.net  63    linkedin.com Why do you have both an extension and a tab for linkedin.com, and extensions for both yahoo.com and yahoo.net? ___ use

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-03 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 3 Nov 2023, Michael Hennebry wrote: here are the top memory entries from about:processes: 872firefox 555weather.com 254imasdk.googleapis.com 210linkedin.com 204Extensions 146yahoo.com 132avrfreaks.net 116googlesyndication.com 88yahoo.net 85hackerra

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-03 Thread Michael Hennebry
here are the top memory entries from about:processes: 872firefox 555weather.com 254imasdk.googleapis.com 210linkedin.com 204Extensions 146yahoo.com 132avrfreaks.net 116googlesyndication.com 88yahoo.net 85hackerrank.com 63linkedin.com 37github.com

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-11-02 at 11:21 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > Main, google and yahoo mail tabs seem to be taking the most CPU and memory, > 20% 618MB, 0.6% 411MG and 0.18% 159MB . > The latter two occasionally flicker to about 20% CPU. > No smoking gun. It's well to remember that it can be a cumula

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread Roger Heflin
It does seem that about:processes and about:performance seem to be same page. So yes about:process. When I googled it pointed me to about:performance so I have been using that without noticing that it was an alias. finding and killing/restarting the specific tab has been working for me for a cou

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: type this In the address bar: about:performance I cannot get to about:performance . 'Tis not in the about:about list. When I type about:performance , I get about:memory . click on the memory column and sort by biggest first. see what specific web page

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/02/2023 02:10 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: With firefox frozen. And with it closed? What I'm trying to find out is how much of that is stuff Firefox needs to keep between sessions and how much of it is session specific. 885M with firefox closed.

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 11:12 PM Michael Hennebry wrote: > > My firefox on F38 freezes a lot. > I get "Firefox" is not responding a lot. > At one time, I thought it was because of too many windows and tabs open. > I closed several windows. > Shutting it down and bringing it back up often helped, >

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/02/2023 02:10 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: With firefox frozen. And with it closed? What I'm trying to find out is how much of that is stuff Firefox needs to keep between sessions and how much of it is session specific. I'll get back to you on tha

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/02/2023 02:10 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: With firefox frozen. And with it closed? What I'm trying to find out is how much of that is stuff Firefox needs to keep between sessions and how much of it is session specific. ___ users mailing list

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/02/2023 01:55 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/02/2023 10:21 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: /dev/sda7    32G   23G  7.1G  76% /home If I'm not mistaken, firefox puts its working files both in /tmp and in your

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/02/2023 01:55 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/02/2023 10:21 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: /dev/sda7    32G   23G  7.1G  76% /home If I'm not mistaken, firefox puts its working files both in /tmp and in your home directory.  If so, that may be yo

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/02/2023 10:21 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: /dev/sda7    32G   23G  7.1G  76% /home If I'm not mistaken, firefox puts its working files both in /tmp and in your home directory. If so, that may be your problem. Consider installing Bleachbit and l

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread Michael Hennebry
Thank you Joe Z, Tim and Richard E. Firefox just starting freezing. [hennebry@fedora ~]$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on devtmpfs4.0M 0 4.0M 0% /dev tmpfs 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /dev/shm tmpfs 1.6G 1.7M 1.6G 1% /run /dev/sda331G

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread simmon simmon
yeah...! I also had the same symptoms... it wasn't good. firefox-118.0.2.tar.bz2 https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux I manually setup fedora38 and applied it through the link process, and it seems to have improved, so I'm using it well. ___

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 22:12:14 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry wrote: > My firefox on F38 freezes a lot. > I get "Firefox" is not responding a lot. > At one time, I thought it was because of too many windows and tabs > open. I closed several windows. > Shutting it down and bringing it back up often hel

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread Roger Heflin
type this In the address bar: about:performance click on the memory column and sort by biggest first. see what specific web pages are using excessive ram (usually close to 1gb or more). click on the tab: entryh that sucks and a X will appear on the far right, and click the X and the specific tab

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/02/2023 10:21 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: /dev/sda7    32G   23G  7.1G  76% /home If I'm not mistaken, firefox puts its working files both in /tmp and in your home directory. If so, that may be your problem. Consider installing Bleachbit and letting it clean all of the cruft out.

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread richard emberson
I had firefox continually freezing (Xorg) taking the gui with it. I then aliased firefox to: cpulimit -i -l 200 /usr/bin/firefox "$@" and it stopped taking the rest of the gui with it. Recently I (had to) switched to Wayland and firefox (with the alias) has only crashed 3 or 4 times but it has not

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-02 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2023-11-01 at 21:24 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > Firefox can be quite a memory hog, depending on what you're doing. What > does > > free -h > > show you, as well as > > df There's an about:memory page in Firefox, an about:performance, an about:processes and a bunch of other info listed if

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/01/2023 09:12 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: My firefox on F38 freezes a lot. I get "Firefox" is not responding a lot. Firefox can be quite a memory hog, depending on what you're doing. What does free -h show you, as well as df You might be running short of memory and/or disk space. _

firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-01 Thread Michael Hennebry
My firefox on F38 freezes a lot. I get "Firefox" is not responding a lot. At one time, I thought it was because of too many windows and tabs open. I closed several windows. Shutting it down and bringing it back up often helped, but not necessarily for very long. According to top, firefox freezes e