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2013-01-17 Thread Tim
Bob Goodwin: > I also prefer Deja vu sans mono because I can easily differentiate > between I, 1, and l. It seriously irks me when computers use fonts that don't allow that. It's absolutely essential to be able to use, and see, the correct characters on a computer. You can't use the wrong ones, i

Re: f-18 scfolling -

2013-01-17 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 17/01/13 10:38, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I have gone through the same issue on a mouse-less, old synaptics touchpad-only system (no gestures, no multi-tap). In my case, something during the upgrade to f17 has changed xfce's "Appearance/Style" to using "Adwaita"-style. This style lacks "arrows"

Re: f-18 scfolling -

2013-01-17 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/16/2013 09:54 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Something has happened to the ability to scroll smoothly in Thunderbird since upgrading two computers to F-18/64/XFCE. In the past there has been a spot at the top and bottom of the scroll bar where you could incre

Re: f-18 scfolling -

2013-01-17 Thread Dale Dellutri
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > On 17/01/13 07:57, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> >> With GTK based apps I use the right mouse-button to page up/down, >> the mouse-wheel to scroll up/down in small steps, and the left >> mouse-button to position the slider fr

Re: f-18 scfolling -

2013-01-17 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 17/01/13 07:57, Michael Schwendt wrote: With GTK based apps I use the right mouse-button to page up/down, the mouse-wheel to scroll up/down in small steps, and the left mouse-button to position the slider freely. That's not specific to GNOME. -- We are a family of track ball users, I ha

Re: f-18 scfolling -

2013-01-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:54:12 -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > > Something has happened to the ability to scroll smoothly in > Thunderbird since upgrading two computers to F-18/64/XFCE. In the > past there has been a spot at the top and bottom of the scroll bar >

Re: f-18 scfolling -

2013-01-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/16/2013 04:43 PM, Brian Mury wrote: But why ask me? I'm not in any way involved with GNOME project. If you don't like it (I don't either), take it up with them. I would, but I bailed on Gnome when I read what Gnome 3 was going to be like. Now, I too use Xfce and am very happy with it T

Re: f-18 scfolling -

2013-01-16 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 16/01/13 19:43, Brian Mury wrote: Hi Joe, It says here, quite clearly, that the OP is using Xfce, not Gnome. Oops, you're right, I missed that. Thanks for pointing it out. even if he were, why should he have to change themes to get back functionality that's been standard for over a decad

Re: f-18 scfolling -

2013-01-16 Thread Brian Mury
Hi Joe, It says here, quite clearly, that the OP is using Xfce, not Gnome. Oops, you're right, I missed that. Thanks for pointing it out. even if he were, why should he have to change themes to get back functionality that's been standard for over a decade? Because that's the default theme

Re: f-18 scfolling -

2013-01-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/16/2013 04:01 PM, Brian Mury wrote: Are you using GNOME? The default GNOME theme removed the scroll buttons (they'll be missing in lots of other places too). Changing the theme should bring them back. This change was in Gnome 3.4, so you should have seen it in F17 too. Brian On 16-Jan-1

Re: f-18 scfolling -

2013-01-16 Thread Brian Mury
Hi Bob, Are you using GNOME? The default GNOME theme removed the scroll buttons (they'll be missing in lots of other places too). Changing the theme should bring them back. This change was in Gnome 3.4, so you should have seen it in F17 too. Brian On 16-Jan-13 12:54, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Vir

f-18 scfolling -

2013-01-16 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
Something has happened to the ability to scroll smoothly in Thunderbird since upgrading two computers to F-18/64/XFCE. In the past there has been a spot at the top and bottom of the scroll bar where you could increment the scroll gradually. That is no longer there in Thunderbird o