Re: etc-shadow

2015-02-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:23:45AM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Curiously, Anaconda calls authconfig to create the key, and the resulting >> shadow entry contains a 16 character salt. Whereas passwd uses an 8 >> character salt. > > Huh, th

Re: etc-shadow

2015-02-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:23:45AM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > Curiously, Anaconda calls authconfig to create the key, and the resulting > shadow entry contains a 16 character salt. Whereas passwd uses an 8 > character salt. Huh, that is curious. I assume we really want to be using the 16-char sa

Re: etc-shadow

2015-02-22 Thread Chris Murphy
lso self-describing, the /etc/shadow entry contains the 8 or 16 character salt, so whatever's doing the password+salt+SHA512rounds work knows from /etc/shadow what to do. And if rounds= is used in /etc/pam.d/passwd, the next time you use passwd, it writes out $rounds=x$ in the 2nd field i

Re: etc-shadow

2015-02-22 Thread Alex Regan
est way (of course using the python crypt > module or whatever). That's it. Thanks! So there is a salt listed in /etc/shadow, and 5000 rounds of SHA512 are used by default according to sha512-crypt.c. The number of rounds can be changed in /etc/pam.d/passwd. Curiously, Anaconda calls authc

Re: etc-shadow

2015-02-22 Thread Chris Murphy
. (If you do want to dig further, I suppose > sha512-crypt.c is the place to look.) > > If you want to generate such a string yourself, using the crypt > function seems like the easiest way (of course using the python crypt > module or whatever). That's it. Thanks! So there is a

Re: etc-shadow

2015-02-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 06:07:18PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > I read this: > http://www.aychedee.com/2012/03/14/etc_shadow-password-hash-formats/ > But Fedora doesn't have mkpasswd by default, whereas passwd seems to > only update shadow rather than outputting to stdout. And if there's a > salt u

Re: etc-shadow

2015-02-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 6:32 PM, jd1008 wrote: > Why not just download > http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/21/Everything/source/SRPMS/p/asswd-0.79.tar.bz2 > and read the source code :) > There are macros you will need to look at as well I've already looked at passwd.c before asking. --

Re: etc-shadow

2015-02-21 Thread jd1008
On 02/21/2015 06:07 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: I'm curious about how the hash in /etc/passwd is generated. I know it's SHA512 based, since the 2nd field starts with $6$. But the characters that follow aren't a SHA512 hash. It looks like it was run through base64. I read this: http://www.aychedee.

etc-shadow

2015-02-21 Thread Chris Murphy
I'm curious about how the hash in /etc/passwd is generated. I know it's SHA512 based, since the 2nd field starts with $6$. But the characters that follow aren't a SHA512 hash. It looks like it was run through base64. I read this: http://www.aychedee.com/2012/03/14/etc_shadow-password-hash-formats

Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?

2012-01-12 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Marko Vojinovic said: > On Thursday 12 January 2012 05:53:42 g wrote: > > if you compare "/etc/shadow" to "/etc/shadow.rpmnew" when it is there, > > you will see that yum/rpm has added a program's name to "/etc/shadow" &g

Re: Purpose of /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- ?

2012-01-12 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Joachim Backes wrote: Question: are these files only created for backup purposes, or is there another reason for this? $ man 5 shadow ... /etc/shadow- Backup file for /etc/shadow. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: Purpose of /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- ?

2012-01-12 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
he was speaking about "/etc/shadow-" and NOT "/etc/shadow" and yes i am sure they are backups Whoops, right you are! - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listi

Re: Purpose of /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- ?

2012-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.01.2012 12:52, schrieb Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak: > On 01/12/2012 12:05 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> adding a new user with "useradd ..." will create two additional files >> never removed: >> >> /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow-

Re: Purpose of /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- ?

2012-01-12 Thread Lewis Handy
> > adding a new user with "useradd ..." will create two additional files > never removed: > > /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- > > Question: are these files only created for backup purposes, or is there > another reason for this? > > > Looking at a sys

Re: Purpose of /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- ?

2012-01-12 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 01/12/2012 12:05 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: Hi all, adding a new user with "useradd ..." will create two additional files never removed: /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- Question: are these files only created for backup purposes, or is there another reason for this? /etc/passw

Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?

2012-01-12 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 01/12/2012 10:28 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Thursday 12 January 2012 05:53:42 g wrote: if you compare "/etc/shadow" to "/etc/shadow.rpmnew" when it is there, you will see that yum/rpm has added a program's name to "/etc/shadow" when yum/rpm adds a new p

Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?

2012-01-12 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 12 January 2012 05:53:42 g wrote: > if you compare "/etc/shadow" to "/etc/shadow.rpmnew" when it is there, > you will see that yum/rpm has added a program's name to "/etc/shadow" > when yum/rpm adds a new program that needs to be assigned

Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/12/2012 01:56 PM, g wrote: > On 01/12/2012 02:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > <> > >> I saw the same message just now But no /etc/shadow.rpmnew was >> created and the /etc/shadow file was not touched. > -=- > > where you updating same package? > >

Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?

2012-01-11 Thread g
On 01/12/2012 02:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: <> > I saw the same message just now But no /etc/shadow.rpmnew was > created and the /etc/shadow file was not touched. -=- where you updating same package? could be you two have found a bug with yum/rpm. -- peace out. tc.hago,

Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?

2012-01-11 Thread g
On 01/12/2012 01:28 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: <> > What is this all about? -=- if you compare "/etc/shadow" to "/etc/shadow.rpmnew" when it is there, you will see that yum/rpm has added a program's name to "/etc/shadow" when yum/rpm adds a new pr

Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?

2012-01-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On 12/01/12 02:40, Ed Greshko wrote: I saw the same message just now But no /etc/shadow.rpmnew was created and the /etc/shadow file was not touched. diff /etc/shadow /etc/shadow- -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users

Purpose of /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- ?

2012-01-11 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi all, adding a new user with "useradd ..." will create two additional files never removed: /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- Question: are these files only created for backup purposes, or is there another reason for this? Kind regards -- Joachim Backes http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.

Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?

2012-01-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/12/2012 09:28 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > I just did a yum update on my F16 box, and the transaction reported (among > the > usual things): > > Updating : setup-2.8.36-3.fc16.noarch 111/236 > warning: /etc/shadow created as /etc/shadow.rpmnew > > Additional

Yum is updating /etc/shadow?

2012-01-11 Thread Marko Vojinovic
I just did a yum update on my F16 box, and the transaction reported (among the usual things): Updating : setup-2.8.36-3.fc16.noarch 111/236 warning: /etc/shadow created as /etc/shadow.rpmnew Additionally, after the update was completed, I looked up /etc/shadow.rpmnew, and it'