Paul W. Frields wrote:
Let's get the list back on topic please. I see no extenuating cause
for the bad language and vitriol being tossed around here.
I marked this thread as moderated to help with that. There are
certainly plenty of more appropriate places to have this sort of
conversation.
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 03:54:31PM -0500, David wrote:
> When I was young as you appear to be I too was a libertarian. Then I
> graduated, grew up, and realized just how the real world really works.
I'm with Neil Peart in that the logical extension of a libertarian is a
liberal. The best way to ra
On 01/20/2014 01:11 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
This is the second or third person to abuse me because of my expertise. If you
want to stay on topic, then where I make a contribution where it concerns my
expertise, I would appreciate if idiots would defer to my wisdom as I
continually state tha
| From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson"
| To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
| Sent: Monday, 20 January, 2014 13:13:58
| Subject: Re: email failure
|
| On 01/20/2014 03:11 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
| > Paul:
| >
| > This is the second or third person to abuse me because of my
| > exp
| From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson"
| To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
| Sent: Monday, 20 January, 2014 13:13:58
| Subject: Re: email failure
|
| On 01/20/2014 03:11 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
| > Paul:
| >
| > This is the second or third person to abuse me because of my
| >
On 01/20/2014 03:11 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
Paul:
This is the second or third person to abuse me because of my expertise. If you
want to stay on topic, then where I make a contribution where it concerns my
expertise, I would appreciate if idiots would defer to my wisdom as I
continually st
| From: "Paul W. Frields"
| To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
| Sent: Monday, 20 January, 2014 11:28:44
| Subject: Re: email failure
|
| On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:33:00AM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
| > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:08:48PM -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
| > >
On 01/20/2014 12:05 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
|
| Going even further way off topic, but I don't really think slavery
| has
| been abolished, it's just changed. Think about this: Are you
| self-sufficient, or do you *need* to have a job? Is your land large
| enough that you can grow all your o
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:33:00AM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:08:48PM -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
> > | From: "Joe Zeff"
>
> ...snip...
>
> > |
> > | Why do you think you deserve compensation, what do you think would be
> > | fair and how would yo
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:00:33 -0800 (PST)
Richard Vickery wrote:
>
> |
> |--
> |[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp
> |Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013
> x86_64
>
> Tim:
>
> "Man was born free, but everywhere he is in chains" Locke 1768(?)
>
> You are not slave to
|
|--
|[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp
|Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64
Tim:
"Man was born free, but everywhere he is in chains" Locke 1768(?)
You are not slave to the Government unless you choose to be. You, and everyone
in the state (in the global sen
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:08:48PM -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
> | From: "Joe Zeff"
...snip...
> |
> | Why do you think you deserve compensation, what do you think would be
> | fair and how would you enforce it?
> | --
>
> Getting rid of the asshole would be a good start
Excel
| I think you've gone way off tangent with the civil rights response.
| I
| was just talking about free email services, which aren't offices of
| government, but business enterprises. I'm not saying it's a good
| thing,
| that *you* are the product, I'm just pointing out the circumstances.
| It's
On 01/20/2014 04:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be a way to
have Plain Text as the default.
OTOH, once the Plain Text option is set, it appears to stick, even
across Gmail sessions. Good to
On 01/20/2014 04:31 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:26:10 + "Patrick O'Callaghan"
wrote:
I see I did it again! That reply was from my Nexus tablet using the
Gmail app. The app has a handy "Reply In-line" button (which the
web version doesn't have) but there doesn't seem to
On 01/20/2014 04:26 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
if you look up from bottom, you will also see that it has;
}> --e89a8f646f8f93fa7504f051c062
}> Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
}> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printa
On 01/20/2014 03:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Jan 20, 2014 2:22 AM, "g" wrote:
On 01/19/2014 07:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: <>
IOW it *was* in plaintext. It did however also have a "Rich
Text" alternative part, which presumably is what violates the
Guidelines
if you look up
On 20.01.2014 16:42, Tim wrote:
> It's how capitalism works. Just about all of these things exist to make
> money. There are very few totally altruistic enterprises, and even Red
> Hat is using us with Fedora for their own purposes. Either they make
> you pay for the product, or they make some
Tim:
>> Quoting an advertiser (one who makes them):
>>
>> "If you're not paying for the service, then you are the product."
Richard Vickery:
> A citizen does not, nor ought need to, pay anyone for the rights of
> the office of citizenship. Slavery is an abolished practice, yet your
> advertiser h
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> Is Nexus Android?
> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/k-9-mail-the-best-alternative-email-management-solution-for-your-android-1-5/
> "You can choose between rich emails and plain text emails."
>
Of course. It's marketed by Google so always has t
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:26:10 +
"Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote:
> I see I did it again! That reply was from my Nexus tablet using the
> Gmail app. The app has a handy "Reply In-line" button (which the web
> version doesn't have) but there doesn't seem to be a way to get
> plaintext in replies. Ge
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
> Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be a way to
> have Plain Text as the default.
OTOH, once the Plain Text option is set, it appears to stick, even
across Gmail sessions. Good to know.
poc
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
>> if you look up from bottom, you will also see that it has;
>>
>> }> --e89a8f646f8f93fa7504f051c062
>> }> Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
>> }> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>
>> which also violates guidelines.
On Jan 20, 2014 2:22 AM, "g" wrote:
>
>
>
> On 01/19/2014 07:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> <>
>
>> IOW it *was* in plaintext. It did however also have a "Rich Text"
>> alternative part, which presumably is what violates the Guidelines
>
>
> if you look up from bottom, you will also see that
| From: "Joe Zeff"
| To: "Community support for Fedora users"
| Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 21:42:41
| Subject: Re: email failure
|
| On 01/19/2014 09:35 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
| > | From: "Joe Zeff"
| > | To: "Community support for Fedora use
On 01/19/2014 09:35 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
| From: "Joe Zeff"
| To: "Community support for Fedora users"
| Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 21:27:38
| Subject: Re: email failure
|
| On 01/19/2014 09:03 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
| > This doesn't do much to addr
| From: "Joe Zeff"
| To: "Community support for Fedora users"
| Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 21:27:38
| Subject: Re: email failure
|
| On 01/19/2014 09:03 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
| > This doesn't do much to address his abuse of my projects
|
| Which is
On 01/19/2014 09:03 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
This doesn't do much to address his abuse of my projects
Which is why I requested that we stop discussing it here.
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From: "Joe Zeff"
| To: "Community support for Fedora users"
| Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 20:55:23
| Subject: Re: email failure
|
| On 01/19/2014 07:25 PM, David wrote:
| > My point? I supported the troupes.
|
| And my 'Nam vet friends and I both thank you; mos
On 01/19/2014 07:25 PM, David wrote:
My point? I supported the troupes.
And my 'Nam vet friends and I both thank you; most of the anti-war
movement didn't. I'm not going to argue with you over which, if any of
our wars have been right and which wrong, because this isn't the right
place, but
| From: "David"
| To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
| Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 19:25:59
| Subject: Re: email failure
|
| On 1/19/2014 10:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
| > On 01/19/2014 06:05 PM, David wrote:
| >> Last comment and I am gone Punk. I was involved at Kent
On 1/19/2014 10:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 01/19/2014 06:05 PM, David wrote:
>> Last comment and I am gone Punk. I was involved at Kent State when the
>> troupes murdered the students. I was at Chicago when the police beat the
>> crap out of us with night sticks protesting Vietnam.
>
> And I was
On 01/19/2014 06:05 PM, David wrote:
Last comment and I am gone Punk. I was involved at Kent State when the
troupes murdered the students. I was at Chicago when the police beat the
crap out of us with night sticks protesting Vietnam.
And I was in Tonkin Gulf during the Easter Offensive in '72,
Richard
- Original Message -
| From: "Richard Vickery"
| To: "Community support for Fedora users"
| Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 18:14:39
| Subject: Re: email failure
|
| | From: "David"
| | To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
| | Sent: Sunday, 19 Janu
On 01/19/2014 07:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
<>
IOW it *was* in plaintext. It did however also have a "Rich Text"
alternative part, which presumably is what violates the Guidelines
if you look up from bottom, you will also see that it has;
}> --e89a8f646f8f93fa7504f051c062
}> Conten
| From: "David"
| To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
| Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 18:05:03
| Subject: Re: email failure
|
| On 1/19/2014 8:36 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
| > | From: "David"
| > | To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
| > | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 20
On 1/19/2014 8:36 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
> | From: "David"
> | To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 13:55:38
> | Subject: Re: email failure
> |
> | On 1/19/2014 4:30 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
> | > | From: "David&quo
| From: "David"
| To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
| Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 13:55:38
| Subject: Re: email failure
|
| On 1/19/2014 4:30 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
| > | From: "David"
| > |
| > | When I was young as you appear to be I too was a libertarian.
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>
> It's the Gmail trap; even though it seems like plain text, it is not.
> You have to explicitly choose plain text (lower right of the compose
> window I think). Once you do, then it becomes obvious that it was not
> plain text before.
>
> Hope
On 01/19/2014 01:57 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
A citizen does not, nor ought need to, pay anyone for the rights of the office
of citizenship. Slavery is an abolished practice, yet your advertiser has just
stated in this quote that slavery is alive and well. Is it not time to rethink
this? Trea
On 1/19/2014 4:30 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
> | From: "David"
> |
> | When I was young as you appear to be I too was a libertarian. Then I
> | graduated, grew up, and realized just how the real world really
> | works.
> |
> |
> | --
> |
> | David
>
> I'm sorry David, that you have neither
| From: "David"
|
| When I was young as you appear to be I too was a libertarian. Then I
| graduated, grew up, and realized just how the real world really
| works.
|
|
| --
|
| David
I'm sorry David, that you have neither heard of either courts, or mass
demonstrations. If you want to conti
On 1/19/2014 2:57 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
> | From: "Tim"
> | To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 01:13:38
> | Subject: Re: email failure
> |
> | Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2014, Richard Vickery sent:
> | > I recentl
| From: "Tim"
| To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
| Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 01:13:38
| Subject: Re: email failure
|
| Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2014, Richard Vickery sent:
| > I recently quit Gmail because I got sick of that they read your
| > email
| > AND
On 1/19/2014 8:45 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
>
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:16:40PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Tim wrote:
>>
>>> Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
In particular, you should avoid top-posting a
Hi Patrick,
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:16:40PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Tim wrote:
>
> > Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
> > > In particular, you should avoid top-posting and posting in HTML.
> >
> > Are you going to f
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Tim wrote:
> Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
> > In particular, you should avoid top-posting and posting in HTML.
>
> Are you going to facepalm, or am I going to smirk? At the least, I am
> amused.
>
Not sure I get your point T
Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
> In particular, you should avoid top-posting and posting in HTML.
Are you going to facepalm, or am I going to smirk? At the least, I am
amused.
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Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2014, Richard Vickery sent:
> I recently quit Gmail because I got sick of that they read your email
> AND they treat users as products rather than citizens,
Quoting an advertiser (one who makes them):
"If you're not paying for the service, then you are the produc
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 06:15:04PM -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
> | 1. I think you missed the instruction I was pointing to in my earlier
> |response[1]; I'm quoting it below.
> |
> | Specify whether to prefix each line with > of | for the previous
> | email messages that are for
- Original Message -
| From: "Suvayu Ali"
| To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
| Sent: Saturday, 18 January, 2014 15:26:16
| Subject: Re: email failure
|
| Hi Richard,
|
| On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:17:06AM -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
| >
| > The problem with bottom
, 2014 15:26:16
Subject: Re: email failure
Hi Richard,
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:17:06AM -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
The problem with bottom-posting on this server is that when I send, it
is hard for some, perhaps everyone, to know where the quoted message
stops and my contribution begin
Is it *actually* Desktop preferences that I seek?
Richard
- Original Message -
From: "Suvayu Ali"
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Saturday, 18 January, 2014 02:07:35
Subject: Re: email failure (was: mock fail under F20)
Hello Richard,
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 06:13:
Hi Richard,
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:17:06AM -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
>
> The problem with bottom-posting on this server is that when I send, it
> is hard for some, perhaps everyone, to know where the quoted message
> stops and my contribution begins. If you go to the bottom of this
> emai
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
> The problem with bottom-posting on this server is that when I send, it is
> hard for some, perhaps everyone, to know where the quoted message stops and
> my contribution begins. If you go to the bottom of this email you will see
> that yo
On 01/18/2014 12:17 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
The problem with bottom-posting on this server is that when I
send, it is hard for some, perhaps everyone, to know where the
quoted message stops and my contribution begins. If you go to the
bottom of this email you will see that your contributio
ginal Message -
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan"
To: "Community support for Fedora users"
Sent: Saturday, 18 January, 2014 04:09:31
Subject: Re: email failure
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 6:38 AM, g < gel...@bellsouth.net > wrote:
On 01/17/2014 08:13 PM, Richard
hello poc,
On 01/18/2014 06:09 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
<>
Seeing this out of context (is there an existing thread, if so then
why wasn't the reply posted there?).
good question.
tho i really do not know why you are pushing an issue.
all i did was select "Reply to sender an all recip
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 6:38 AM, g wrote:
> On 01/17/2014 08:13 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
>
>> Hi Suvayu, and anybody else who cares - assuming that Suvayu cares -
>> about the issue:
>>
>> This is originally how this server has set the return mail as; I can
>> possibly talk to the university co
Hello Richard,
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 06:13:14PM -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
>
> This is originally how this server has set the return mail as; I can
> possibly talk to the university computer people about fixing the
> program so that I can have the option of bottom-post correctly, such
> that
On 01/17/2014 08:13 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
Hi Suvayu, and anybody else who cares - assuming that Suvayu cares -
about the issue:
This is originally how this server has set the return mail as; I can
possibly talk to the university computer people about fixing the
program so that I can have
Allegedly, on or about 17 January 2014, Richard Vickery sent:
> If anyone knows of an email server I can use until I get a break, can
> find and read my Linux books on setting up an old Pentium Celeron box
> that at the moment has Microsoft's shit on it with a mail server, or
> can pick a Linux ser
Hi Suvayu, and anybody else who cares - assuming that Suvayu cares - about the
issue:
This is originally how this server has set the return mail as; I can possibly
talk to the university computer people about fixing the program so that I can
have the option of bottom-post correctly, such that i
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