Re: Getting crontab to send an email

2025-06-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz via users
On 6/26/25 7:51 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/26/25 3:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Try mailx for starters? Or does it need more... To get the terms right, you need an MDA or LDA, not an MTA. :-) Something that can do local mail delivery and it seems that there are no o

Re: Getting crontab to send an email

2025-06-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 6/26/25 3:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> Try mailx for starters? >> >> Or does it need more... > > To get the terms right, you need an MDA or LDA, not an MTA. :-) > Something that can do local mail delivery and it seems that there are no > options available other than t

Re: Getting crontab to send an email

2025-06-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
users     wrote:     I want to get emails from my Fedora notebook for crontab     activities.     First figure out if your MTA is working, then you can figure out     what you want to *actually* send, whether Logwatch rolled-up     reports, or just the individual crontabs. There's a

Re: Getting crontab to send an email

2025-06-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz via users
Moskowitz via users     wrote:     I want to get emails from my Fedora notebook for crontab     activities.     First figure out if your MTA is working, then you can figure out     what you want to *actually* send, whether Logwatch rolled-up     reports, or just the individual crontabs

Re: Getting crontab to send an email

2025-06-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz via users
from my Fedora notebook for crontab     activities.     First figure out if your MTA is working, then you can figure out     what you want to *actually* send, whether Logwatch rolled-up     reports, or just the individual crontabs. There's almost certainly     a bunch of ways you can

Re: Getting crontab to send an email

2025-06-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/26/25 3:15 PM, Robert Moskowitz via users wrote: On 6/26/25 6:09 PM, Will McDonald wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 at 23:05, Will McDonald wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 at 22:50, Robert Moskowitz via users wrote: I want to get emails from my Fedora notebook for crontab

Re: Getting crontab to send an email

2025-06-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz via users
On 6/26/25 6:09 PM, Will McDonald wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 at 23:05, Will McDonald wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 at 22:50, Robert Moskowitz via users wrote: I want to get emails from my Fedora notebook for crontab activities. First figure out if your MTA is

Re: Getting crontab to send an email

2025-06-26 Thread Will McDonald
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 at 23:05, Will McDonald wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 at 22:50, Robert Moskowitz via users < > users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> I want to get emails from my Fedora notebook for crontab activities. > > > First figure out if your MTA is wo

Re: Getting crontab to send an email

2025-06-26 Thread José María Terry Jiménez via users
t does rsync the files, but no report is > emailed. Not local or other. > > The command seems to send its output to stdout. > Do your crontab file has a line as: MAILTO=root Ir where you want to send the email? -- ___ users mailing l

Re: Getting crontab to send an email

2025-06-26 Thread Will McDonald
ws: > > 10 4* * * root/usr/sbin/shutdown > > And I get a daily email saying the system will shutdown in ~1min. Nice. > > I want to get emails from my Fedora notebook for crontab activities. I > particular, I want to do a nightly rsync to an rsynd and get the result

Getting crontab to send an email

2025-06-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz via users
I want to get emails from my Fedora notebook for crontab activities.  I particular, I want to do a nightly rsync to an rsynd and get the results of this printed. something like: 10 4    * * *   rgm    /usr/bin/time --password-file=pasw --verbose /usr/bin/rsync -ah --stats /home/rgm/r/ rsync://rg

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-11 Thread olivares33561 via users
gt; [olivares@fedora user]$ > > > > however, when I try to enable the service I get > > > > [olivares@fedora user]$ mcedit poweroff.service > > > > [olivares@fedora user]$ mcedit poweroff.timer > > > > [olivares@fedora user]$ systemctl --user enable poweroff

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-09 Thread Mike Wright
template units, the unit is meant to be enabled with some instance name specified. [olivares@fedora user]$ I changed 16:20:00 to 07:45:00 for testing purposes. But this is what I get. I just want a service that powers off machine using this method. The crontab method of shutting down the m

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-08 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Apr 8, 2022, at 08:43, olivares33561 via users wrote: > > [olivares@fedora user]$ systemctl --user enable poweroff.service If you are editing files in /etc/systemd/system, then take off the “--user” and use sudo when activating the service. Never use sudo in a systemd Exec line unless you

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-08 Thread olivares33561 via users
ser enable poweroff.service > The unit files have no installation config (WantedBy=, RequiredBy=, Also=, > Alias= settings in the [Install] section, and DefaultInstance= for template > units). This means they are not meant to be enabled using systemctl. > > Possible reasons for havin

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-08 Thread olivares33561 via users
ctory. • A unit's purpose may be to act as a helper for some other unit which has a requirement dependency on it. • A unit may be started when needed via activation (socket, path, timer, D-Bus, udev, scripted systemctl call, ...). • In case of template units, the unit is meant to be enabled

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-08 Thread Barry Scott
> On 7 Apr 2022, at 21:22, olivares33561 via users > wrote: > > Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. > > > > I am getting closer. > > [olivares@fedora user]$ cat poweroff.service > # /etc/systemd/system/poweroff.service > [Unit] > Description = Poweroff machine at 16

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-07 Thread Mike Wright
based in Switzerland. --- Original Message --- On Wednesday, April 6th, 2022 at 8:09 PM, Tim via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, 2022-04-05 at 20:18 +, olivares33561 via users wrote: How can I convert a crontab # [olivares@fedora Downloads]$ crontab -l # min hour

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-07 Thread olivares33561 via users
Switzerland. > > > > --- Original Message --- > > On Wednesday, April 6th, 2022 at 8:09 PM, Tim via users > > users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2022-04-05 at 20:18 +, olivares33561 via users wrote: > > > > > > > How can I con

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-07 Thread Barry Scott
> On 6 Apr 2022, at 00:43, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > So sorry to suddenly wake up on this thread, but is cron going away. I use it > all the time, hourly for backups and nightly for updates. > > Many thanks, > Ranjan cron is not going away, but it's got a cryptic syntax and is, in my experien

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-07 Thread Barry Scott
022-04-05 at 20:18 +, olivares33561 via users wrote: >> >>> How can I convert a crontab >>> # >>> [olivares@fedora Downloads]$ crontab -l >>> # min hour day-of-month month day-of-week command >>> # 0-59 0-23 1-31 1-12 0-6 0=sun 1=mon >>&g

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-07 Thread Mike Wright
a crontab # [olivares@fedora Downloads]$ crontab -l # min hour day-of-month month day-of-week command # 0-59 0-23 1-31 1-12 0-6 0=sun 1=mon #50 04 * * 1-5 ~/.xalarm >/dev/null 2>&1 #50 04 * * 0,6 ~/.salarm >/dev/null 2>&1 #59 09 * * 0,6 ~/.salarm >/dev/null 2>&1 #00 0

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-07 Thread olivares33561 via users
Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. --- Original Message --- On Wednesday, April 6th, 2022 at 8:09 PM, Tim via users wrote: > On Tue, 2022-04-05 at 20:18 +, olivares33561 via users wrote: > > > How can I convert a crontab > > # &g

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-06 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2022-04-05 at 20:18 +, olivares33561 via users wrote: > How can I convert a crontab > # > [olivares@fedora Downloads]$ crontab -l > # min hour day-of-month month day-of-week command > # 0-59 0-231-311-12 0-6 0=sun 1=mon > #50 04 * * 1-5 ~/.xalarm >/d

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-06 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Apr 5, 2022, at 16:19, olivares33561 via users wrote: > > [olivares@fedora Downloads]$ crontab -l > […] > [olivares@fedora Downloads]$ sudo systemctl list-timers I noticed you put your crontab entries in your user crontab, but later looked at system timers. You will want t

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-06 Thread Mike Wright
On 4/6/22 10:50, olivares33561 via users wrote: I have a crontab file that I use to play some files about 3 minutes before bell rings between classes. I had to install anacron with dnf command. I have seen emails where some folks recommend systemd timers. How can I convert a crontab 25 16

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-06 Thread olivares33561 via users
2 22:02:35 +0100 > > To: olivares33561 olivares33...@protonmail.com, Community support for > > Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Subject: Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers >

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-05 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue Apr05'22 10:02:35PM, Barry wrote: > From: Barry > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 22:02:35 +0100 > To: olivares33561 , Community support for > Fedora users > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers > >

Re: convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-05 Thread Barry
> On 5 Apr 2022, at 21:19, olivares33561 via users > wrote: > > Dear kind Fedora users, > > I have a crontab file that I use to play some files about 3 minutes before > bell rings between classes. I had to install anacron with dnf command. I > have seen emails wh

convert crontab jobs to systemd timers

2022-04-05 Thread olivares33561 via users
Dear kind Fedora users, I have a crontab file that I use to play some files about 3 minutes before bell rings between classes. I had to install anacron with dnf command. I have seen emails where some folks recommend systemd timers. How can I convert a crontab # [olivares@fedora Downloads

Re: [OT] need crontab help

2022-02-18 Thread Mike Wright
On 2/18/22 00:22, Barry wrote: On 18 Feb 2022, at 01:53, Mike Wright wrote: There is a java app that writes directly to the pulseaudio MASTER channel at full volume twice a day. I'm pretty sure the neighbors hear it. My idea is to use crontab to run at 12:59 Monday-Friday. It wai

Re: [OT] need crontab help

2022-02-18 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2022-02-17 at 17:39 -0800, Mike Wright wrote: > There is a java app that writes directly to the pulseaudio MASTER > channel at full volume twice a day. I'm pretty sure the neighbors > hear it. My idea is to use crontab to run at 12:59 Monday- > Friday. It waits 59 s

Re: [OT] need crontab help

2022-02-18 Thread Barry
> On 18 Feb 2022, at 01:53, Mike Wright wrote: > > Hi all, > > There is a java app that writes directly to the pulseaudio MASTER channel at > full volume twice a day. I'm pretty sure the neighbors hear it. My idea is > to use crontab to run at 12:59 Monday-Fr

Re: [OT] need crontab help

2022-02-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 17:39:18 -0800 Mike Wright wrote: > Anybody explain why this doesn't do what I intend? Odds are good something in your login environment is required. DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is one good candidate. Lots of linux tools don't directly do anything, but instead connect to DBUS to

[OT] need crontab help

2022-02-17 Thread Mike Wright
Hi all, There is a java app that writes directly to the pulseaudio MASTER channel at full volume twice a day. I'm pretty sure the neighbors hear it. My idea is to use crontab to run at 12:59 Monday-Friday. It waits 59 seconds, mutes the audio, waits 6 more seconds and unmutes the

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Emmett Culley via users
On 11/16/21 2:27 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/16/21 2:46 PM, Peter Boy wrote: Yes indeed, you know that (and I, too). But someone, who is new to Linux? Or to computers in general? If I were helping a newcomer to Linux, and pointed them toward nano, I'd include explaining what ^ means in that c

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 14:27:49 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > What I don't understand is why so many people think that > vi/vim is so wonderful unless it's justifying the amount of work it took > them to learn it. Bingo! :-). Why would anyone think an editor with separate "modes" for moving the cursor a

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/16/21 2:46 PM, Peter Boy wrote: Yes indeed, you know that (and I, too). But someone, who is new to Linux? Or to computers in general? If I were helping a newcomer to Linux, and pointed them toward nano, I'd include explaining what ^ means in that context. How much explaining do you n

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/16/21 2:40 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: If I need more that vi, then I use geany.  We ARE using a gui interface on most systems and often gui remote into servers. Yes, of course you should use your GUI editor of choice if it's available. That's why I kept talking about emergency edits

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 16.11.2021 um 22:27 schrieb Joe Zeff : > > On 11/16/21 2:08 PM, Peter Boy wrote: >> You might see it yourself: K for cut, very intuitive , ^ for „Press >> key, even more intuitive. > > Back it the Old Days when nano was first developed, the standard way to > signify use of the control k

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/16/21 16:27, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/16/21 2:08 PM, Peter Boy wrote: You might see it yourself: K for cut, very intuitive , ^ for „Press key, even more intuitive. Back it the Old Days when nano was first developed, the standard way to signify use of the control key was ^, which is st

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/16/21 2:08 PM, Peter Boy wrote: You might see it yourself: K for cut, very intuitive , ^ for „Press key, even more intuitive. Back it the Old Days when nano was first developed, the standard way to signify use of the control key was ^, which is still used in the various terminal prog

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 16.11.2021 um 22:02 schrieb Robert Moskowitz : > > > > On 11/16/21 15:01, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> On 11/16/21 10:18, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> F35 change from F32; may have occurred earlier. >>> >>> VI was sooo easy to use. >>> >>> Now I have to learn nano? >> >> I was using a debian o

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 16.11.2021 um 21:10 schrieb Joe Zeff : > > On 11/16/21 12:39 PM, Peter Boy wrote: >> Maybe, but you lose a lot of very powerful functionality. And instead you >> are supposed to decipher (and memorize) cryptic character combinations that >> desperately try to imitate a graphical interface

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/16/21 15:01, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/16/21 10:18, Robert Moskowitz wrote: F35 change from F32; may have occurred earlier. VI was sooo easy to use. Now I have to learn nano? I was using a debian or Ubuntu system and I ran "visudo".  It took me a few moments to figure out why I could

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/16/21 12:39 PM, Peter Boy wrote: Maybe, but you lose a lot of very powerful functionality. And instead you are supposed to decipher (and memorize) cryptic character combinations that desperately try to imitate a graphical interface. No. All commands in nano are single strokes, using th

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/16/21 10:18, Robert Moskowitz wrote: F35 change from F32; may have occurred earlier. VI was sooo easy to use. Now I have to learn nano? I was using a debian or Ubuntu system and I ran "visudo". It took me a few moments to figure out why I couldn't get out of it. I laughed at the iro

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 16.11.2021 um 20:27 schrieb Joe Zeff : > > On 11/16/21 11:18 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> Now I have to learn nano? >> Old timer sheesh. > > Nano is actually easy to use. The most important commands are at the bottom > of the screen, including the one to bring up the complete list. No

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/16/21 10:18, Robert Moskowitz wrote: F35 change from F32; may have occurred earlier. Change in Fedora 33: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/UseNanoByDefault VI was sooo easy to use.   Now I have to learn nano? No, now new users don't have to learn to use vim.  You can set what

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/16/21 11:18 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Now I have to learn nano? Old timer sheesh. Nano is actually easy to use. The most important commands are at the bottom of the screen, including the one to bring up the complete list. No need to memorize anything. _

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 16.11.2021 um 19:56 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan : > > On Tue, 2021-11-16 at 12:30 -0600, Ron Flory wrote: >> man crontab says VISUAL or EDITOR env vars may affect this. sure >> hope >> the default isn't nano now... > > IIRC the default ha

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/16/21 13:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2021-11-16 at 12:30 -0600, Ron Flory wrote: man crontab says VISUAL or EDITOR env vars may affect this.   sure hope the default isn't nano now... IIRC the default has been nano since at least F34 and possibly earlier. I don

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2021-11-16 at 12:30 -0600, Ron Flory wrote: > man crontab says VISUAL or EDITOR env vars may affect this.   sure > hope > the default isn't nano now... IIRC the default has been nano since at least F34 and possibly earlier. I don't l

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Ron Flory
man crontab says VISUAL or EDITOR env vars may affect this.   sure hope the default isn't nano now... ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Co

Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 11:19 AM Robert Moskowitz wrote: > F35 change from F32; may have occurred earlier. > > VI was sooo easy to use. > > Now I have to learn nano? > > Old timer sheesh. Uninstall the nano-default-editor package. Install the vim-default-editor package. Log out and log back in.

crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

2021-11-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
F35 change from F32; may have occurred earlier. VI was sooo easy to use. Now I have to learn nano? Old timer sheesh. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Co

Re: user crontab

2020-05-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-11 21:45, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > On 5/11/20 9:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-05-11 20:39, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> And now you are paying the memory, cpu, etc. cost of having postfix running >> Oh, well, I suppose I've never seen an idle postfix take up any noticeable >>

Re: user crontab

2020-05-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 5/11/20 9:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-11 20:39, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And now you are paying the memory, cpu, etc. cost of having postfix running Oh, well, I suppose I've never seen an idle postfix take up any noticeable CPU time or memory on any of my systems. How can it not

Re: user crontab

2020-05-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-11 20:39, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > And now you are paying the memory, cpu, etc. cost of having postfix running Oh, well, I suppose I've never seen an idle postfix take up any noticeable CPU time or memory on any of my systems. -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good quest

Re: user crontab

2020-05-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 5/10/20 11:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-07 06:00, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I know I can edit the user crontab with: crontab -e and display it with crontab -l But where is it?  I don't see anything like ~/.crontab Secondly, and more importantly, is getting a email from the

Re: user crontab

2020-05-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-07 06:00, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I know I can edit the user crontab with: > > crontab -e > > and display it with > > crontab -l > > But where is it?  I don't see anything like ~/.crontab > > Secondly, and more importantly, is getting a email f

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 5/10/20 6:51 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 10May2020 13:36, Robert Moskowitz wrote: It is entirely true. The collapsing happens when you _use_ the values:    # all safe and reliable    $ a=$( date +'%a %b %d %T %Y')    $ b=$( date +'%a  %b  %d  %T  Y')    $ c=$b    # unquoted use    $ ec

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-10 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 10May2020 13:36, Robert Moskowitz wrote: It is entirely true. The collapsing happens when you _use_ the values:    # all safe and reliable    $ a=$( date +'%a %b %d %T %Y')    $ b=$( date +'%a  %b  %d  %T  Y')    $ c=$b    # unquoted use    $ echo $a    Sat May 09 14:37:07 2020    $ echo $b

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 5/9/20 12:41 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 08May2020 20:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/8/20 4:32 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 08May2020 11:15, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I added inserting a Date: line and switched to using sed: local]# cat mycron #!/bin/sh currentDate="$(date +'%a %b %d %T

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/8/20 9:41 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 08May2020 20:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/8/20 4:32 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 08May2020 11:15, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I added inserting a Date: line and switched to using sed: local]# cat mycron #!/bin/sh currentDate="$(date +'%a %b %d %T %Y

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 08May2020 20:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/8/20 4:32 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 08May2020 11:15, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I added inserting a Date: line and switched to using sed: local]# cat mycron #!/bin/sh currentDate="$(date +'%a %b %d %T %Y')" You don't need the double quotes. The

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/8/20 4:32 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 08May2020 11:15, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I added inserting a Date: line and switched to using sed: local]# cat mycron #!/bin/sh currentDate="$(date +'%a %b %d %T %Y')" You don't need the double quotes. The shell parser recognises the assignment

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 08May2020 11:15, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I added inserting a Date: line and switched to using sed: local]# cat mycron #!/bin/sh currentDate="$(date +'%a %b %d %T %Y')" You don't need the double quotes. The shell parser recognises the assignment statement _before_ breaking things on white

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Cameron Simpson
add it to the crontab output. Yes, it's a requirement of the format.  That's why there's an "echo" after "cat".  :) Oops.  That is right.  And I need to change this to do a sed to insert a Date: line in the right place... "The right place"?

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 08May2020 06:56, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 5/8/20 2:08 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: You _do_ need to ensure the message at least ends with a newline, of the From_ won't be at the start of a line. So the previously posted script ensures that with the "echo" in "( cat; echo )". If you want to

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/8/20 11:08 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 5/8/20 1:58 PM, Mike Wright wrote: There's a tiny MDA called femtomail that delivers into a Maildir. Well first I need mbox, not maildir format. mutt can read Maildir as well. Maildir is a much better mail storage method than mbox. Provide i

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 5/8/20 2:01 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/8/20 10:58 AM, Mike Wright wrote: On 5/8/20 9:55 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 5/8/20 12:39 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2020-05-08 at 06:56 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Plus I have always thought of this as a deficiency in cron on a works

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 5/8/20 1:58 PM, Mike Wright wrote: On 5/8/20 9:55 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 5/8/20 12:39 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2020-05-08 at 06:56 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Plus I have always thought of this as a deficiency in cron on a workstation.  Cron should work (report in thi

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/8/20 10:58 AM, Mike Wright wrote: On 5/8/20 9:55 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 5/8/20 12:39 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2020-05-08 at 06:56 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Plus I have always thought of this as a deficiency in cron on a workstation.  Cron should work (report in this

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Mike Wright
On 5/8/20 9:55 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 5/8/20 12:39 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2020-05-08 at 06:56 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Plus I have always thought of this as a deficiency in cron on a workstation.  Cron should work (report in this case) properly without needing somethin

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 5/8/20 12:39 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2020-05-08 at 06:56 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Plus I have always thought of this as a deficiency in cron on a workstation. Cron should work (report in this case) properly without needing something else (MTA) installed. Does it though? Th

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2020-05-08 at 06:56 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Plus I have always thought of this as a deficiency in cron on a > workstation. Cron should work (report in this case) properly > without needing something else (MTA) installed. Does it though? There's always /var/log/cron. Or that ot

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz
it may be necessary to add it to the crontab output. Yes, it's a requirement of the format.  That's why there's an "echo" after "cat".  :) except cat is not guarenteed to EOF after a newline. New script. I added inserting a Date: line and switched to using se

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Jon LaBadie
necessary to add it to > > the crontab output. > > > Yes, it's a requirement of the format.  That's why there's an "echo" after > "cat".  :) except cat is not guarenteed to EOF after a newline. -- Jon H. LaBadie jo...@jg

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 5/8/20 6:04 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2020-05-08 at 01:44 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: In my mail files each message is followed by a blank line before the next "From_" line. Is that a requirement of mbox format? If so, it may be necessary to add it to the crontab output.

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Francis . Montagnac
Hi. On Fri, 08 May 2020 06:56:58 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 5/8/20 2:08 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: >> You _do_ need to ensure the message at least ends with a newline, of >> the From_ won't be at the start of a line. So the previously posted >> script ensures that with the "echo" in "(

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 5/8/20 2:24 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 5/7/20 10:44 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: In my mail files each message is followed by a blank line before the next "From_" line.  Is that a requirement of mbox format?  If so, it may be necessary to add it to the crontab output. Y

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz
uot;From_" line.  Is that a requirement of mbox format?  If so, it may be necessary to add it to the crontab output. Kinda. Depends on the thing parsing the mbox file. To avoid misparsing message body lines which themselves commance with "From " some things only consider a From_ li

Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 5/8/20 1:16 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 09:09 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: In general if you set up the cronjobs to redirect stdout and stderr to a file then typically there is nothing to email. Just thinking out loud: If your scripts generate their own logs, you see the

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-08 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2020-05-08 at 01:44 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > In my mail files each message is followed by a blank line > before the next "From_" line. Is that a requirement of > mbox format? If so, it may be necessary to add it to > the crontab output. It's how mbox works,

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-07 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 5/7/20 10:44 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: In my mail files each message is followed by a blank line before the next "From_" line. Is that a requirement of mbox format? If so, it may be necessary to add it to the crontab output. Yes, it's a requirement of the format.  That&#

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-07 Thread Cameron Simpson
else it prevents filename expansion happening to the value of $currentDate. (Not that that will happen with the date format chosen, but again, as a general practice in scripting.) In my mail files each message is followed by a blank line before the next "From_" line. Is that a requirement of m

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-07 Thread Jon LaBadie
gt; > If nothing else it prevents filename expansion happening to the value of > $currentDate. (Not that that will happen with the date format chosen, but > again, as a general practice in scripting.) > In my mail files each message is followed by a blank line before the next "

Re: user crontab

2020-05-07 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 09:09 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > In general if you set up the cronjobs to redirect stdout and stderr > to a file then typically there is nothing to email. Just thinking out loud: If your scripts generate their own logs, you see the results of your scripts. But if cron gen

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-07 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 07May2020 15:01, Robert Moskowitz wrote: /ustr/sbin/mycron: #!/bin/sh currentDate="$(date +'%a %b %d %T %Y')" echo "From cron@localhost  "$currentDate >> /var/spool/mail/$USER Put $currentDate inside the quotes. With echo it is less of an issue, but for many other commands you should exer

Re: user crontab

2020-05-07 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 07May2020 12:43, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/07/2020 08:04 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So all I need is a script at /usr/bin/mycron Actually, you can put it wherever you want, including ~/bin, as long as you give the complete path. /usr/bin may be the best place, but it's not the only place.

Re: user crontab

2020-05-07 Thread Cameron Simpson
. "rpm -qf /usr/sbin/sendmail" used to be the go, not sure of the matching dnf or yum incantation. I looked at man crontab.5 and did not see a way to specify the mail command to run for the cron output. There isn't. It uses the "system mail", use _is_ /usr/sbin/send

Re: user crontab

2020-05-07 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 07May2020 09:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: The bottom of that manual entry describes the "mta" setting, and says that esmtp relies on a local MTA for local delivery (addresses without an "@"). So you'll need something additional anyway. May as well go straight to a proper MTA. And then, to

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-07 Thread Robert Moskowitz
d # Settings for the CRON daemon. # CRONDARGS= :  any extra command-line startup arguments for crond CRONDARGS= -m "/usr/sbin/mycron" And restarted crond Next I changed my crontab with: 15 * * * * ls /home/rgm I know have mail waiting in /var/spool/mail/rgm, but mutt can't proces

Re: user crontab

2020-05-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/07/2020 08:04 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So all I need is a script at /usr/bin/mycron Actually, you can put it wherever you want, including ~/bin, as long as you give the complete path. /usr/bin may be the best place, but it's not the only place. Just a thought. ___

Re: Almost working - Re: user crontab

2020-05-07 Thread Robert Moskowitz
crond # Settings for the CRON daemon. # CRONDARGS= :  any extra command-line startup arguments for crond CRONDARGS= -m "/usr/sbin/mycron" And restarted crond Next I changed my crontab with: 15 * * * * ls /home/rgm I know have mail waiting in /var/spool/mail/rgm, but mutt can't pr

Re: user crontab

2020-05-07 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 5/7/20 1:24 PM, Alexander Dalloz wrote: Am 07.05.2020 um 02:11 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: Cameron, Oh I have done a lot with postfix: http://www.htt-consult.com/Centos7-mailserver.html Showing a broken / incomplete submission and submissions setup in master.cf of Postfix. Notice it sa

Re: user crontab

2020-05-07 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 07.05.2020 um 02:11 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: Cameron, Oh I have done a lot with postfix: http://www.htt-consult.com/Centos7-mailserver.html Showing a broken / incomplete submission and submissions setup in master.cf of Postfix. Alexander ___

Almost working - Re: user crontab

2020-05-07 Thread Robert Moskowitz
ed crond Next I changed my crontab with: 15 * * * * ls /home/rgm I know have mail waiting in /var/spool/mail/rgm, but mutt can't process it.  So I am missing something in the format of mail in /var/spool/mail.  Can someone point me to the proper format? What I have there from the cron

Re: user crontab

2020-05-07 Thread Roger Heflin
In general if you set up the cronjobs to redirect stdout and stderr to a file then typically there is nothing to email. Often if you have only a few systems this is easier to use. On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 8:29 AM Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > > On 5/7/20 7:48 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > > >

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