Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-13 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/11/2015 02:15 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > So in case of a complete disaster, just restore your data as > described. If your boot sector is damaged, you'll however have to > restore it by hand (which isn't all too difficult). > > [1] http://www.sysresccd.org whenever I mess up my MBR, I boot the

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-13 Thread Diogene Laerce
Hi Mr Heinz, Thanks for stopping by. ;) Le 11/08/2015 20:15, Heinz Diehl a écrit : > On 11.08.2015, Diogene Laerce wrote: > >> Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those >> directories is enough for a full restoration of a system state, this method >> is far more >> eff

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-13 Thread Diogene Laerce
Le 11/08/2015 22:54, Rick Stevens a écrit : > On 08/11/2015 10:52 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: >> Hi Rick, >> >> Le 11/08/2015 19:18, Rick Stevens a écrit : >>> On 08/11/2015 09:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: >> https://wiki.arch

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Rick Stevens
On 08/11/2015 10:52 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: Hi Rick, Le 11/08/2015 19:18, Rick Stevens a écrit : On 08/11/2015 09:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync Is there a trick I don't

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:56 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 08/11/2015 01:27 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> The other context for snapshots are system rollbacks, which is on a >> sliding continuum between stateless vs stateful systems. So you can >> get certain aspects of statelessness with snapshots,

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008
On 08/11/2015 01:27 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: The other context for snapshots are system rollbacks, which is on a sliding continuum between stateless vs stateful systems. So you can get certain aspects of statelessness with snapshots, with an otherwise stateful system. This is how Windows has don

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Chris Murphy
The other context for snapshots are system rollbacks, which is on a sliding continuum between stateless vs stateful systems. So you can get certain aspects of statelessness with snapshots, with an otherwise stateful system. This is how Windows has done updates for a long time now, and snapper, and

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 11.08.2015, Diogene Laerce wrote: > Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those > directories is enough for a full restoration of a system state, this method > is far more > efficient than the others, isn't it ? If you backup all your partitions with rsync, all you hav

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Andrew R Paterson
Hi, this stupid argument rears its head again - snapshots vs "backups". At least now someone advocating time-consuming "backups" has come up with a logical argument - You "usually" put the system into a static state before performing a "backup". Trouble is - the "backup" usually means you

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Diogene Laerce
Hi Rick, Le 11/08/2015 19:18, Rick Stevens a écrit : > On 08/11/2015 09:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce >> wrote: >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync >>> >>> Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the bac

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Diogene Laerce
Le 11/08/2015 18:18, Chris Murphy a écrit : > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: > >>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync >> Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those >> directories >> is enough for a full restoration o

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Rick Stevens
On 08/11/2015 09:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those directories is enough for a full restoration of a system st

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync > > Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those > directories > is enough for a full restoration of a system state, this method is far more > efficie

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Diogene Laerce
Le 11/08/2015 03:31, Erik Grun a écrit : > Am 11.08.2015 um 03:25 schrieb Erik Grun: > > Am 08.08.2015 um 15:57 schrieb Heinz Diehl: > >> On 07.08.2015, Diogene Laerce wrote: > > >>> After a sad experience with a system update, I would like to > >>> ask if there is a software on Fedora or more ge

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-10 Thread Erik Grun
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Am 11.08.2015 um 03:25 schrieb Erik Grun: > Am 08.08.2015 um 15:57 schrieb Heinz Diehl: >> On 07.08.2015, Diogene Laerce wrote: > >>> After a sad experience with a system update, I would like to >>> ask if there is a software on Fedora or more gener

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-10 Thread Erik Grun
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Am 08.08.2015 um 15:57 schrieb Heinz Diehl: > On 07.08.2015, Diogene Laerce wrote: > >> After a sad experience with a system update, I would like to ask >> if there is a software on Fedora or more generally on Linux which >> would allow me to make

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-10 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: >> http://snapper.io/ >> http://rpm-software-management.github.io/dnf-plugins-extras/snapper.html > > The documentation says that snapper supports ext4 but only > experimentally, do > you have any feedback on the matter ? It requires LVM thin

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-09 Thread Diogene Laerce
Hi, Thanks for your answers. Le 07/08/2015 22:12, Michael Morgan a écrit : > Btrfs root, snapper, and python-dnf-plugins-extras-snapper have been a > > godsend for me in this regard. I also run snapper-timeline on my /home > subvol which has saved me from frustration a few times already. btrfs

Re: backup snapshot posting

2015-08-09 Thread Paul Livingston
Excellent post! I'm not the OP but this scratches and itch for me particularly since it is a bare metal solution Thanks On Aug 8, 2015, at 8:00 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > From: "Michael D. Setzer II" > Subject: Re: backup snapshot > Date: Au

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-08 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 07.08.2015, Diogene Laerce wrote: > After a sad experience with a system update, I would like to ask > if there is a software on Fedora or more generally on Linux > which would allow me to make a complete snapshot of the system ? rsync -avxHSAX /source/ /target -- users mailing list users@l

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-07 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
: users@lists.fedoraproject.org From: Diogene Laerce Subject:backup snapshot Date sent: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 21:56:09 +0200 Send reply to: me_buss...@yahoo.fr, Community support for Fedora users > Hi, > > After a sad experience with a system update, I would like to ask &

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: > Hi, > > After a sad experience with a system update, I would like to ask > if there is a software on Fedora or more generally on Linux > which would allow me to make a complete snapshot of the system ? > > Something as easy of use as the snap

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-07 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/07/2015 12:56 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: Hi, After a sad experience with a system update, I would like to ask if there is a software on Fedora or more generally on Linux which would allow me to make a complete snapshot of the system ? Something as easy of use as the snapshot feature in Vir

backup snapshot

2015-08-07 Thread Diogene Laerce
Hi, After a sad experience with a system update, I would like to ask if there is a software on Fedora or more generally on Linux which would allow me to make a complete snapshot of the system ? Something as easy of use as the snapshot feature in VirtualBox would be great.. But near would do as we