Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 14:39:54 -0500, RM (Robert) wrote: > I want to know that MY system has updates needed to apply, not there has > been updates announced. This is what we have tools like YUM for. It could be you're also facing some of the issues discussed in the following thread: http://lists.

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread g
On 01/05/2012 08:36 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: <> > Interesting. I will have to think about it. -=- also, note that there is a condition flag that can be tested so you can have notice it there are updates. i do not have any updates pending so i can not see what notice shows. > To see this on

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/05/2012 07:29 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/05/2012 04:21 PM, Joel Rees wrote: Am I the only one who runs a yum update before I have breakfast every morning? No, although I use yumex. Yumex is rather slow it seems compared to just yum update. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/05/2012 07:21 PM, Joel Rees wrote: On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Where is it with f16/G3? I once saw that poor excuse of a popup at the bottom of the screen saying something about updates available. But if that all there is, who watches there screen all the ti

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/05/2012 04:21 PM, Joel Rees wrote: Am I the only one who runs a yum update before I have breakfast every morning? No, although I use yumex. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/u

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Where is it with f16/G3? > > I once saw that poor excuse of a popup at the bottom of the screen saying > something about updates available. > > But if that all there is, who watches there screen all the time Am I the only one who runs

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/05/2012 02:32 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: >> >> Why?  You're*checking*  for updates, not actually installing them, so >> >> you shouldn't (and don't, yum will handle it just fine) need root >> permissions. > > > I've had yum complain when I

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/05/2012 02:32 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: Why? You're*checking* for updates, not actually installing them, so you shouldn't (and don't, yum will handle it just fine) need root permissions. I've had yum complain when I've asked it to list something unless I do it as root. Interesting

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/05/2012 11:50 AM, g wrote: >> >> you can use cron to run a script that redirects output; >> >>   yum check-update>  ~/robert/Desktop/newupdates >> >> and have everything pop does not give you. >> >> yes/no/maybe? > > > > Two things: first, AI

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/05/2012 02:50 PM, g wrote: On 01/05/2012 07:39 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: <> I want to know that MY system has updates needed to apply, not there has been updates announced. This is what we have tools like YUM for. -=- then use yum to do your own update check; yum check-update se

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/05/2012 11:50 AM, g wrote: you can use cron to run a script that redirects output; yum check-update> ~/robert/Desktop/newupdates and have everything pop does not give you. yes/no/maybe? Two things: first, AIUI, cron jobs run with the same permissions that the user who owns the jo

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread g
On 01/05/2012 07:39 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: <> > I want to know that MY system has updates needed to apply, not there has > been updates announced. This is what we have tools like YUM for. -=- then use yum to do your own update check; yum check-update see "man yum". you can use cron to

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/05/2012 11:01 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: But for those that switch off at night\day as the case may be. It's perfect and doesn't care which Desktop you run. I never said that it wasn't, just that it's not appropriate for everybody. And, AFAICT, yumex doesn't care what DE you use either. -

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/05/2012 02:16 PM, g wrote: On 01/05/2012 02:15 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: <> If there are updates, I want to know about it. If they are important bug fixes or critical security fixes I want to know that too. -=- if you want to know about updates, and not by a short time pop-up, i woul

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/05/2012 02:01 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 05/01/12 18:46, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/05/2012 06:18 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: Considering that I generally reboot only for kernel updates and otherwise let my box run 24/7 the way it was designed to, your suggestion really wouldn't work for me, or

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/05/2012 01:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/05/2012 06:18 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: You can always use something like: yum-updateonboot with config set to security. So everytime, you boot\reboot security updates are installed. works best with network.service [joe@khorlia Desktop]$ uptime 10:4

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread g
On 01/05/2012 02:15 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: <> > If there are updates, I want to know about it. If they are important > bug fixes or critical security fixes I want to know that too. -=- if you want to know about updates, and not by a short time pop-up, i would suggest you opt for a long tim

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On 05/01/12 18:46, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/05/2012 06:18 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: Considering that I generally reboot only for kernel updates and otherwise let my box run 24/7 the way it was designed to, your suggestion really wouldn't work for me, or others like me. But for those that switch o

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/05/2012 06:18 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: You can always use something like: yum-updateonboot with config set to security. So everytime, you boot\reboot security updates are installed. works best with network.service [joe@khorlia Desktop]$ uptime 10:43:45 up 5 days, 23:24, 2 users, load av

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
No dice for updates... On 01/05/2012 09:58 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 09:15 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/05/2012 09:01 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:30:01 -0500, RM (Robert) wrote: Where is it with f16/G3? What is "G3"? I once saw that p

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/05/2012 09:58 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 09:15 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/05/2012 09:01 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:30:01 -0500, RM (Robert) wrote: Where is it with f16/G3? What is "G3"? I once saw that poor excuse of a popup at

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/05/2012 09:30 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 22:02:28 +0800, EG (Ed) wrote: On 01/05/2012 10:01 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:30:01 -0500, RM (Robert) wrote: Where is it with f16/G3? What is "G3"? GNOME 3 Ouch. :) It's not so cool IMO to inve

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/05/2012 09:18 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 05/01/12 14:15, Robert Moskowitz wrote: If there are updates, I want to know about it. If they are important bug fixes or critical security fixes I want to know that too. You can always use something like: yum-updateonboot with config set to secu

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 09:15 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 01/05/2012 09:01 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:30:01 -0500, RM (Robert) wrote: > > > >> Where is it with f16/G3? > > What is "G3"? > > > >> I once saw that poor excuse of a popup at the bottom of the screen >

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 22:02:28 +0800, EG (Ed) wrote: > On 01/05/2012 10:01 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:30:01 -0500, RM (Robert) wrote: > > > >> Where is it with f16/G3? > > What is "G3"? > > GNOME 3 Ouch. :) It's not so cool IMO to invent abbreviations like that without

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On 05/01/12 14:21, Ed Greshko wrote: You can always use something like: yum-updateonboot with config set to security. So everytime, you boot\reboot security updates are installed. works best with network.service I don't use GNOME But, how does that suggestion help folks that don't reboo

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/05/2012 10:18 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 05/01/12 14:15, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> >> If there are updates, I want to know about it. If they are important bug >> fixes or critical security fixes I want to know that too. > > You can always use something like: > yum-updateonboot > with confi

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On 05/01/12 14:15, Robert Moskowitz wrote: If there are updates, I want to know about it. If they are important bug fixes or critical security fixes I want to know that too. You can always use something like: yum-updateonboot with config set to security. So everytime, you boot\reboot security

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/05/2012 09:01 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:30:01 -0500, RM (Robert) wrote: Where is it with f16/G3? What is "G3"? I once saw that poor excuse of a popup at the bottom of the screen saying something about updates available. But if that all there is, who watches th

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/05/2012 10:01 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:30:01 -0500, RM (Robert) wrote: > >> Where is it with f16/G3? > What is "G3"? GNOME 3 -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:30:01 -0500, RM (Robert) wrote: > Where is it with f16/G3? What is "G3"? > I once saw that poor excuse of a popup at the bottom of the screen > saying something about updates available. > > But if that all there is, who watches there screen all the time What exactl

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 08:30:01AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Where is it with f16/G3? > > I once saw that poor excuse of a popup at the bottom of the screen > saying something about updates available. > > But if that all there is, who watches there screen all the time Granted, the pop

Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Where is it with f16/G3? I once saw that poor excuse of a popup at the bottom of the screen saying something about updates available. But if that all there is, who watches there screen all the time -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription