Re: Writing English.

2013-11-27 Thread Roger
On 11/27/2013 08:10 PM, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: 2013-11-22 22:16 keltezéssel, Joe Zeff írta: On 11/22/2013 12:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: Why can't computer geeks learn to write English correctly? What I'd like to know is where is Henry Higgins when we need him? You must have meant 'enry 'i

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-27 Thread Zoltan Boszormenyi
2013-11-22 22:16 keltezéssel, Joe Zeff írta: On 11/22/2013 12:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: Why can't computer geeks learn to write English correctly? What I'd like to know is where is Henry Higgins when we need him? You must have meant 'enry 'iggins... ;-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fed

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-26 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/24/2013 04:53 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Nov 24, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > >> On 11/23/2013 03:55 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> >>> On Nov 23, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: >>> On 11/22/2013 09:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > Nope, you're wrong. Find a c

Re: Writing English. Please explain how this is a Fedora topic? -No please don't!

2013-11-25 Thread Beartooth
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:20:50 +, Ian Malone wrote: > [] The moderators can tell us > to drop it, but if you want to ask them to ask then better to email the > admin address rather than the whole list. To be honest though you could > just ignore it. There are lots of threads I don't read on

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-24 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 24, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 11/23/2013 03:55 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Nov 23, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: >> >>> On 11/22/2013 09:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> Nope, you're wrong. Find a copy of New Oxford American Dictionary and look up

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-24 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/23/2013 03:55 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Nov 23, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > >> On 11/22/2013 09:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >>> Nope, you're wrong. Find a copy of New Oxford American Dictionary >>> and look up the words and usage. I seriously doubt even Oxford >>> Englis

Re: Writing English. Please explain how this is a Fedora topic? -No please don't!

2013-11-24 Thread Ian Malone
On 24 November 2013 02:35, Roger wrote: > Would the moderators please be kind enough to take this very tiresome off > topic -off list- so that discussion about Fedora is not circumvented by > trivia. > > Out of the thousands of lurkers and contributors, some of which are major > corporations, go

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-24 Thread Ian Malone
On 24 November 2013 00:21, Bill Oliver wrote: > On Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Rolf Turner wrote: > >> On 11/24/13 09:30, Robert Holtzman wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:29:19AM +1300, Rolf Turner wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> > > But wrong nevertheless. It conflates two quite distinct idea

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 10:18:59 +1300 Rolf Turner wrote: > The "p" is silent; as in phthisis. Or as in swimming. :-) > > cheers, > > Rolf Turner There are no result for Psigh in the Oxford English Dictionary, is you meant an exacerbation it would be "Sigh" -- Regards, Frank www.fran

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Doug
On 11/23/2013 07:21 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: > On Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Rolf Turner wrote: > >> On 11/24/13 09:30, Robert Holtzman wrote: >>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:29:19AM +1300, Rolf Turner wrote: >> >> But wrong nevertheless. It conflates two quite distinct ideas,

Re: Writing English. Please explain how this is a Fedora topic? -No please don't!

2013-11-23 Thread Roger
Would the moderators please be kind enough to take this very tiresome off topic -off list- so that discussion about Fedora is not circumvented by trivia. Out of the thousands of lurkers and contributors, some of which are major corporations, gov't agencies, teachers, scientists, people wanti

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Bill Oliver
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/23/2013 05:04 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: > Why, people like me, of course. All the right thinking sort :-) Ah. I see. Not the type, then, that Ziva David insisted on calling "redthroats." Well, now that you mention it, and in all seriousness,

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/23/2013 05:04 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: Why, people like me, of course. All the right thinking sort :-) Ah. I see. Not the type, then, that Ziva David insisted on calling "redthroats." -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 10:33:41AM +1300, Rolf Turner wrote: > On 11/24/13 09:30, Robert Holtzman wrote: > >On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:29:19AM +1300, Rolf Turner wrote: > > > >> > >> But wrong nevertheless. It conflates two quite distinct ideas, blurs > >> the meaning and diminishes

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Bill Oliver
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/23/2013 04:21 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: It's not that you are wrong about English usage. You are wrong about American usage. And we just don't care -- but we find it hilarious that someone would. What do you mean by "we," redneck? Why, people l

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/23/2013 04:21 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: It's not that you are wrong about English usage. You are wrong about American usage. And we just don't care -- but we find it hilarious that someone would. What do you mean by "we," redneck? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To uns

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Bill Oliver
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013, Bill Oliver wrote: On Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Rolf Turner wrote: On 11/24/13 09:30, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:29:19AM +1300, Rolf Turner wrote: > > > >But wrong nevertheless. It conflates two quite distinct ideas, > >blurs

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Bill Oliver
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Rolf Turner wrote: On 11/24/13 09:30, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:29:19AM +1300, Rolf Turner wrote: > > But wrong nevertheless. It conflates two quite distinct ideas, > blurs > the meaning and diminishes the language. Ano

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Doug
On 11/23/2013 04:33 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: > On 11/24/13 09:30, Robert Holtzman wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:29:19AM +1300, Rolf Turner wrote: > > /snip/ > cheers, > > Rolf Turner > > P. S. > >> One should not aim at being possible to understand, but at >> being impossib

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Rolf Turner
On 11/24/13 09:30, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:29:19AM +1300, Rolf Turner wrote: But wrong nevertheless. It conflates two quite distinct ideas, blurs the meaning and diminishes the language. Another English major heard from. Actually not true. Maths

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Rolf Turner
On 11/24/13 09:52, Dan Thurman wrote: On 11/22/2013 12:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: Psigh! What hope for humanity? :-) Well... what is `Psigh' in English please? :P The "p" is silent; as in phthisis. Or as in swimming. :-) cheers, Rolf Turner -- users mailing list users@lists.fedor

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Dan Thurman
On 11/22/2013 12:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: Psigh! What hope for humanity? :-) Well... what is `Psigh' in English please? :P -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:29:19AM +1300, Rolf Turner wrote: > On 11/23/13 10:17, inode0 wrote: > >On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: > >>Just read some stuff on this list about "spins", a concept which had > >>not previously impinged itself upon my consciousness. So I went and >

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 23, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 11/22/2013 09:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> Nope, you're wrong. Find a copy of New Oxford American Dictionary >> and look up the words and usage. I seriously doubt even Oxford >> English makes such a big distinction between two words that

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Les Howell
On Sat, 2013-11-23 at 01:26 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 09:54:39 +1300 > Rolf Turner wrote: > > > > Why can't computer geeks learn to write English correctly? > > http://xkcd.com/1238/ > > HTH, :-) > Marko > good one Marko, But if we all think about it, really... Wh

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-23 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/22/2013 09:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > Nope, you're wrong. Find a copy of New Oxford American Dictionary > and look up the words and usage. I seriously doubt even Oxford > English makes such a big distinction between two words that share > the same etymology and have no good reason for mean

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 09:54:39 +1300 Rolf Turner wrote: > > Why can't computer geeks learn to write English correctly? http://xkcd.com/1238/ HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailma

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-22 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Friday 22 November 2013 03:04:27 PM Bill Oliver wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 2013, Rolf Turner wrote: > > On 11/23/13 10:17, inode0 wrote: > >> In American usage this is acceptable and common. > >> > > But wrong nevertheless. It conflates two quite distinct ideas, blurs > > the meaning an

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-22 Thread Bill Oliver
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013, Rolf Turner wrote: On 11/23/13 10:17, inode0 wrote: In American usage this is acceptable and common. But wrong nevertheless. It conflates two quite distinct ideas, blurs the meaning and diminishes the language. Yeah, we have a saying about that: http://www.you

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-22 Thread Ian Malone
On 22 November 2013 22:00, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 03:17:32PM -0600, inode0 wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: >> > >> > Just read some stuff on this list about "spins", a concept which had >> > not previously impinged itself upon my consciousne

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-22 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 03:17:32PM -0600, inode0 wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: > > > > Just read some stuff on this list about "spins", a concept which had > > not previously impinged itself upon my consciousness. So I went and > > had a look at the spins.fedoraproj

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-22 Thread Zach Ploskey
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > Nope, you're wrong. Find a copy of New Oxford American Dictionary and look > up the words and usage. I seriously doubt even Oxford English makes such a > big distinction between two words that share the same etymology and have no > good reason

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: > On 11/23/13 10:17, inode0 wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: >>> Just read some stuff on this list about "spins", a concept which had >>> not previously impinged itself upon my consciousness. So I went and >>> had a l

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:17 PM, inode0 wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: >> >> Just read some stuff on this list about "spins", a concept which had >> not previously impinged itself upon my consciousness. So I went and >> had a look at the spins.fedoraproject.org page.

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-22 Thread Rolf Turner
On 11/23/13 10:17, inode0 wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: Just read some stuff on this list about "spins", a concept which had not previously impinged itself upon my consciousness. So I went and had a look at the spins.fedoraproject.org page. It started off by saying

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-22 Thread inode0
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: > > Just read some stuff on this list about "spins", a concept which had > not previously impinged itself upon my consciousness. So I went and > had a look at the spins.fedoraproject.org page. It started off by saying > "What is a spin? Fedora s

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/22/2013 12:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: Why can't computer geeks learn to write English correctly? What I'd like to know is where is Henry Higgins when we need him? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.

Writing English.

2013-11-22 Thread Rolf Turner
Just read some stuff on this list about "spins", a concept which had not previously impinged itself upon my consciousness. So I went and had a look at the spins.fedoraproject.org page. It started off by saying "What is a spin? Fedora spins are alternate version of Fedora, tailored ...". For G