On Thursday, 4. October 2012. 12.27.51 Alan Cox wrote:
> > legally, from any other product I produce. If I create a drawing that
> > drawing is my property
>
> The paper is your property, the paint is your property, the abstract
> drawing that sits on it is not property and the moment someone
> p
> If I were to write a book, or paint a picture, or create a poster, or,
> by any other creative means, produce some product from my efforts it is
> my right to decide how, when, or if, I choose to distribute, transfer,
> or share said product.
Actually it's not. Even in the US. If you paint a
> I really don't think Linux or GNU or any FOSS could exist in a purely
> communistic society or even a plain old tyranny like Bobby Mugabe-land.
It manages to exist in the USSA ;)
If you look at Linux contributions they come from everywhere. The core of
the network routing code was written by Ru
On 10/03/2012 08:39 AM, Roger wrote:
On 03/10/12 19:18, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 10/02/2012 12:14 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote:
The header is self explanatory. I always wonder what bad would it
bring to the vendor if they open source their graphics driver?
Thoughts?
Junayeed Ahnaf Nirj
On 2012/10/03 09:04, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 10/03/2012 11:55 AM, jdow wrote:
On 2012/10/03 02:01, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 18.52.10 jdow wrote:
How about government funding? There is a tried&tested scenario used
for some
time now all over the world, say in scien
On 10/03/2012 06:27 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:05:38 -0400
Mark LaPierre wrote:
On 10/02/2012 04:18 PM, Alan Evans wrote:
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
So final users would have had the best hardware running the best drivers
(open source too).
This is
On 10/03/2012 11:55 AM, jdow wrote:
On 2012/10/03 02:01, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 18.52.10 jdow wrote:
How about government funding? There is a tried&tested scenario used
for some
time now all over the world, say in science. For example:
Then you get what the gov
On 10/03/2012 02:55 AM, jdow wrote:
Then you get what the government says you will want not what you do want.
We saw that in Soviet Russia as a very glaring example.
"As long as they pretend to pay us, we'll pretend to work."
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On 2012/10/03 06:53, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Wednesday, 3. October 2012. 2.55.25 jdow wrote:
On 2012/10/03 02:01, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
How about government funding? There is a tried&tested scenario used for
some
time now all over the world, say in science. For example:
Then you get what t
On Wednesday, 3. October 2012. 2.55.25 jdow wrote:
> On 2012/10/03 02:01, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > How about government funding? There is a tried&tested scenario used for
> > some
> > time now all over the world, say in science. For example:
>
> Then you get what the government says you will want
On Wed, 2012-10-03 at 02:55 -0700, jdow wrote:
> Why does FOSS critically lag with regards to what the general public
> wants?
Does it really? Whether it's open source projects, or proprietary
business, *you* get given what *they* think is the way to do it.
> Why isn't the desktop experience in
On 03/10/12 19:18, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 10/02/2012 12:14 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote:
The header is self explanatory. I always wonder what bad would it
bring to the vendor if they open source their graphics driver?
Thoughts?
Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor
If I had to hazard a guess?...
> Hw, if there is no incentive to do something, why bother to do it? That
> dirty rotten awful stinky evil capitalism provides the incentive. If I
> don't get something additional out of working hard, I don't work hard -
> indeed, why should I bother to work at all?
If nobody needs to work why bot
On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:05:38 -0400
Mark LaPierre wrote:
> On 10/02/2012 04:18 PM, Alan Evans wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> >> So final users would have had the best hardware running the best drivers
> >> (open source too).
> >> This is something which must no
On 2012/10/03 02:47, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:52 PM, jdow mailto:j...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
(Remember, a sweatshop job is better than no job at
all if it pays more than you can get with no job at all even if it does
not meet some do-gooder's idea of "minimu
On 2012/10/03 02:01, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 18.52.10 jdow wrote:
On 2012/10/02 13:17, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 20.56.34 Roberto Ragusa wrote:
On 10/02/2012 03:45 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
Another factor is that the drivers may contain a lot of
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:52 PM, jdow wrote:
> (Remember, a sweatshop job is better than no job at
> all if it pays more than you can get with no job at all even if it does
> not meet some do-gooder's idea of "minimum wage.")
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo3eFp0I4Iw
FC
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On 10/02/2012 12:14 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote:
The header is self explanatory. I always wonder what bad would it
bring to the vendor if they open source their graphics driver?
Thoughts?
Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor
If I had to hazard a guess?...I would say it more about money than
anything el
On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 18.52.10 jdow wrote:
> On 2012/10/02 13:17, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 20.56.34 Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> >> On 10/02/2012 03:45 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
> >>> Another factor is that the drivers may contain a lot of clever stuff. A
> >>> long time
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:52 PM, jdow wrote:
> (Remember, a sweatshop job is better than no job at
> all if it pays more than you can get with no job at all even if it does
> not meet some do-gooder's idea of "minimum wage.")
>
Can you leave your prejudice and misconceptions out of this list, pl
drivers are proprietary
On 2012/10/02 13:17, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 20.56.34 Roberto Ragusa wrote:
On 10/02/2012 03:45 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
Another factor is that the drivers may contain a lot of clever stuff. A
long time back one of the problems raised was that
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On 2012/10/02 13:17, Marko
On 2012/10/02 13:17, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 20.56.34 Roberto Ragusa wrote:
On 10/02/2012 03:45 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
Another factor is that the drivers may contain a lot of clever stuff. A
long time back one of the problems raised was that vendor A had the
better har
On 10/02/2012 04:18 PM, Alan Evans wrote:
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
So final users would have had the best hardware running the best drivers
(open source too).
This is something which must not be permitted to happen. :-/
Not if it helps to sell the competitor's har
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> So final users would have had the best hardware running the best drivers
> (open source too).
> This is something which must not be permitted to happen. :-/
Not if it helps to sell the competitor's hardware.
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On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 20.56.34 Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> On 10/02/2012 03:45 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
> > Another factor is that the drivers may contain a lot of clever stuff. A
> > long time back one of the problems raised was that vendor A had the
> > better hardware but vendor B the better driv
On 10/02/2012 03:45 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
> Another factor is that the drivers may contain a lot of clever stuff. A
> long time back one of the problems raised was that vendor A had the
> better hardware but vendor B the better drivers. Vendor B's product won
> all the benchmarks. If they open sourc
Another factor is that the drivers may contain a lot of clever stuff. A
long time back one of the problems raised was that vendor A had the
better hardware but vendor B the better drivers. Vendor B's product won
all the benchmarks. If they open sourced it then vendor A would duly have
borrowed all
On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 15.14.59 Junayeed Ahnaf wrote:
> The header is self explanatory. I always wonder what bad would it bring to
> the vendor if they open source their graphics driver? Thoughts?
AFAIK:
* Some details of the internal design of the graphics chip can be reverse-
engineered
The header is self explanatory. I always wonder what bad would it bring to the
vendor if they open source their graphics driver? Thoughts?
Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor
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