On 10/10/2011 05:27 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 07:11, Craig White wrote:
>> The real power of FOSS is about people who recognize a need and they
>> fill it rather than waiting around for someone else to do the work.
>
> I don´t have the time (or health for that matter) t
On 10 October 2011 12:57, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> To take one example, I found a user asking on how to reset gnome panels.
>
> The answer:
> ---
> "Code:
>
> gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel
> killall gnome-panel
>
> "your panels should then reset , and respawn. Should fix most issues."
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 07:11, Craig White wrote:
> The real power of FOSS is about people who recognize a need and they
> fill it rather than waiting around for someone else to do the work.
I don´t have the time (or health for that matter) to devote to any
large-scale software project. I´m just
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 00:07 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 22:48, Craig White wrote:
> >
> > Considering that Rahul is a tireless ambassador for Fedora and puts up
> > with stupid comments like the above
>
> I apologize. Let me rephrase it in a more civilized manner, then:
On 10 October 2011 04:07, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 22:48, Craig White wrote:
>>
>> Considering that Rahul is a tireless ambassador for Fedora and puts up
>> with stupid comments like the above
>
> I apologize. Let me rephrase it in a more civilized manner, then:
>
> "I stro
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 22:48, Craig White wrote:
>
> Considering that Rahul is a tireless ambassador for Fedora and puts up
> with stupid comments like the above
I apologize. Let me rephrase it in a more civilized manner, then:
"I strongly think that people in charge of a FOSS project saying tha
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 06:35 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 19:49, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > No. it doesn't need to be a script. There is no technical reason it
> > should be.
> >
> > Rahul
>
> Keep reasoning like this.
> Microsoft needs more people like you,
that yo
On 7 October 2011 19:31, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 10/07/2011 02:17 AM, JD wrote:
>> Thanx.
>> A good point.
>> I wish the upgrade process would
>> actually prompt the user for performing
>> such steps.
>
> I'm replying to this twice, and changing the subject here because I
> didn't want to (completely
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 19:49, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> No. it doesn't need to be a script. There is no technical reason it
> should be.
>
> Rahul
Keep reasoning like this.
Microsoft needs more people like you,
FC
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On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 13:29, JD wrote:
> Right. Newbs and non-techies need scripts.
User-friendly, they´ve heard of it.
And I don´t mean the comic user-friendly.org
Even IBM learned a thing or two in the transition from the
business-centric OS/2 2.x to OS/2 Warp... hence scripts for common
taks
On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 17:49 -0700, JD wrote:
> On 10/08/2011 04:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > You haven't given any single reason why it should be a script. What
> > exactly does such a live upgrade do that preupgrade doesn't and why
> > can't be it be a part of preupgrade?
> >
> > Rahul
> We
On 10/08/2011 04:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/09/2011 04:26 AM, JD wrote:
>
>> But there is every reason to make the
>> live upgrade of fedora as user friendly as possible.
>> Your opinion sounds rather insensitive to newbs
>> and non-techies, who would like to perform such
>> a live upgrad
On 10/09/2011 04:26 AM, JD wrote:
> But there is every reason to make the
> live upgrade of fedora as user friendly as possible.
> Your opinion sounds rather insensitive to newbs
> and non-techies, who would like to perform such
> a live upgrade.
> Clearly, Fedora needs more people who are
> willi
On 10/08/2011 03:49 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/09/2011 02:52 AM, JD wrote:
>
>> I was addressing a live upgrade.
>> A live upgrade does indeed need to
>> be a script so that newbs and non-techies
>> will be able to perform without having
>> to read a how-to procedure and make
>> accidental m
On 10/09/2011 02:52 AM, JD wrote:
> I was addressing a live upgrade.
> A live upgrade does indeed need to
> be a script so that newbs and non-techies
> will be able to perform without having
> to read a how-to procedure and make
> accidental mistakes, no matter who
> creates it and submits it for
On 10/08/2011 01:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/07/2011 02:47 PM, JD wrote:
>
>> Seems to me that the upgrade process itself
>> should be better scripted on the release DVD/CD
>> to take care of such problems, including cleaning
>> up of orphaned packages, and synching of packages.
>> Such a
On 10/07/2011 02:47 PM, JD wrote:
> Seems to me that the upgrade process itself
> should be better scripted on the release DVD/CD
> to take care of such problems, including cleaning
> up of orphaned packages, and synching of packages.
> Such a script would be a great help to newbs and
> non-techie
On 10/07/2011 03:21 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 07:42, JD wrote:
>> I vote for an upgrade script for all the steps
>> suggested on
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum
> Wow, progress being made!.
>
> I remember suggesting here that the Linux communit
On 10/07/2011 03:21 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 07:42, JD wrote:
>> I vote for an upgrade script for all the steps
>> suggested on
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum
> Wow, progress being made!.
>
> I remember suggesting here that the Linux communit
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 10/07/2011 02:17 AM, JD wrote:
>> Thanx.
>> A good point.
>> I wish the upgrade process would
>> actually prompt the user for performing
>> such steps.
>
> I'm replying to this twice, and changing the subject here because I
> didn't want to (com
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 07:42, JD wrote:
> I vote for an upgrade script for all the steps
> suggested on
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum
Wow, progress being made!.
I remember suggesting here that the Linux community should embrace
scripts, instead of posting "howto" rec
On 10/07/2011 02:32 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:42 AM, JD wrote:
>> On 10/07/2011 11:53 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
>>> On 10/7/2011 11:25 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/07/2011 02:17 AM, JD wrote:
> Thanx.
> A good point.
> I wish the upgrade process woul
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:42 AM, JD wrote:
> On 10/07/2011 11:53 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
>> On 10/7/2011 11:25 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>> On 10/07/2011 02:17 AM, JD wrote:
Thanx.
A good point.
I wish the upgrade process would
actually prompt the user for performing
such s
On 10/07/2011 11:53 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> On 10/7/2011 11:25 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 10/07/2011 02:17 AM, JD wrote:
>>> Thanx.
>>> A good point.
>>> I wish the upgrade process would
>>> actually prompt the user for performing
>>> such steps.
>> Even better would be for the upgrade proces
On 10/7/2011 11:25 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 10/07/2011 02:17 AM, JD wrote:
>> Thanx.
>> A good point.
>> I wish the upgrade process would
>> actually prompt the user for performing
>> such steps.
> Even better would be for the upgrade process to offer to do this for the
> user so that people wouldn
On 10/07/2011 02:17 AM, JD wrote:
> Thanx.
> A good point.
> I wish the upgrade process would
> actually prompt the user for performing
> such steps.
I'm replying to this twice, and changing the subject here because I
didn't want to (completely) hijack the thread. What I'd like to ask is,
how i
On 10/07/2011 02:17 AM, JD wrote:
> Thanx.
> A good point.
> I wish the upgrade process would
> actually prompt the user for performing
> such steps.
Even better would be for the upgrade process to offer to do this for the
user so that people wouldn't have to worry about getting it right.
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On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 11:30:18 -0600,
Peter Gueckel wrote:
> JD wrote:
>
> > Besides backing up the system first, before attempting this,
> > is it possible to fully upgrade to F16 while booted into
> > current F14?
>
> If you are going to try it, I would recommend that you familiarize yours
On 10/07/2011 10:30 AM, Peter Gueckel wrote:
> JD wrote:
>
>> Besides backing up the system first, before attempting this,
>> is it possible to fully upgrade to F16 while booted into
>> current F14?
> If you are going to try it, I would recommend that you familiarize yourself
> with
> how to chang
JD wrote:
> Besides backing up the system first, before attempting this,
> is it possible to fully upgrade to F16 while booted into
> current F14?
If you are going to try it, I would recommend that you familiarize yourself
with
how to change the UID and GID of the users on your computer. Your o
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 13:13:32 -0700,
JD wrote:
> Besides backing up the system first, before attempting this,
> is it possible to fully upgrade to F16 while booted into
> current F14?
In theory. You will probably need to do some fooling around with dropped
packages that may block updates.
T
Besides backing up the system first, before attempting this,
is it possible to fully upgrade to F16 while booted into
current F14?
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