Re: Upgrading from F16 to F17 fails

2012-09-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.09.2012 00:05, schrieb JD: > I will wait for fc18 in the hopes it will do a better job of upgrading from > 16 to 18 you can NOT expect that a F16->F18 upgrade will do USrMove better > The yum route, due to the time it takes to download everything uninstall unused crap to reduce the amou

Re: Upgrading from F16 to F17 fails

2012-09-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.09.2012 19:46, schrieb Heinz Diehl: > On 08.09.2012, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> not all users have plain setups where you can easily >> do a fresh install, this works not well if you have >> customiized many configurations of many services > >> and that is why a distribution with a new re

Re: Upgrading from F16 to F17 fails

2012-09-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.09.2012 19:38, schrieb Heinz Diehl: > On 08.09.2012, JD wrote: > >> It fails after it displays that the installed fedora 16 will be upgraded, >> and I click next. > [] > > Upgrading F16 to F17 from DVD is one f*cking mess. Seriously. > Backup your data and do a fresh install. It will

Re: Upgrading from F16 to F17 fails

2012-09-08 Thread Richard Breen
Hi I asked a question here yesterday and most have done it in he wrong place. Now I am getting LOTS of questions. I am a beginner and I don't have a clue as to whats going on with Fedora. will try again to get in there and get me out of this mess. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject

Re: Upgrading from F16 to F17 fails

2012-09-08 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 08.09.2012, JD wrote: > The pain is in remembering all the apps for which conf files were > modified. To address that, inserting a comment like > # this is a modified conf file Whenever I change a config, I keep a copy of the same file with the ending .OWN in the same location. Now, a single

Re: Upgrading from F16 to F17 fails

2012-09-08 Thread Andy Blanchard
On 7 September 2012 23:28, JD wrote: > I wonder about /etc, because that's where so much conf is kept. > But it is small enough to simply back it up to an external partition. > The pain is in remembering all the apps for which conf files were > modified. To address that, inserting a comment like

Re: Upgrading from F16 to F17 fails

2012-09-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 16:05:00 -0600, JD wrote: I will wait for fc18 in the hopes it will do a better job of upgrading from 16 to 18. The yum route, due to the time it takes to download everything, and the tenuous nature of the electric service and the network provider's "instability", s

Re: Upgrading from F16 to F17 fails

2012-09-08 Thread JD
On 09/08/2012 11:46 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: On 8 September 2012 18:38, Heinz Diehl > wrote: Upgrading F16 to F17 from DVD is one f*cking mess. Seriously. Backup your data and do a fresh install. It will save you a lot of time and hairpull. Better yet, wh

Re: Upgrading from F16 to F17 fails

2012-09-08 Thread Andy Blanchard
On 8 September 2012 18:38, Heinz Diehl wrote: > > Upgrading F16 to F17 from DVD is one f*cking mess. Seriously. > Backup your data and do a fresh install. It will save you a lot of > time and hairpull. > Better yet, when you do the re-install set up some disk partitions so you can segregate the

Re: Upgrading from F16 to F17 fails

2012-09-08 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 08.09.2012, Reindl Harald wrote: > not all users have plain setups where you can easily > do a fresh install, this works not well if you have > customiized many configurations of many services > and that is why a distribution with a new release > each month should be much carefuller in contex

Re: Upgrading from F16 to F17 fails

2012-09-08 Thread JD
On 09/08/2012 11:36 AM, Alan Cox wrote: The Fedora DVD upgrade is not very good to put it politely and gets steadily worse release by release. The installer is pretty robust, but the update stuff not so. A better bet is to make a backup and then carefully read the instructions on updating via y

Re: Upgrading from F16 to F17 fails

2012-09-08 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 08.09.2012, JD wrote: > It fails after it displays that the installed fedora 16 will be upgraded, > and I click next. [] Upgrading F16 to F17 from DVD is one f*cking mess. Seriously. Backup your data and do a fresh install. It will save you a lot of time and hairpull. -- users mailing l

Re: Upgrading from F16 to F17 fails

2012-09-08 Thread Alan Cox
The Fedora DVD upgrade is not very good to put it politely and gets steadily worse release by release. The installer is pretty robust, but the update stuff not so. A better bet is to make a backup and then carefully read the instructions on updating via yum. Follow all the steps listed in order. 1

Upgrading from F16 to F17 fails

2012-09-07 Thread JD
It fails after it displays that the installed fedora 16 will be upgraded, and I click next. I filed the bug with redhat bugzilla but when I logged in to my bugzilla accout I do not see the bug listed in "My Bugs" list. I ran the self check for the DVD and it passed. I checked the sha256 sum of