Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-14 Thread Andre Costa
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 16:51, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:05:47 -0200, AC (Andre) wrote: > > > Maybe if there > > was a similar documentation explaining to "old dogs" (myself included) > how > > to do SysV tasks the systemd way, transition would be easier. I know the > > inf

Re: chksystemd Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 13 November 2011 07:22:51 T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > Yay for unicode bugs! Fixed in chksystemd-2 (along with a brown paper > bag bug that made the "reset" action not work), which is now available > at http://tchol.org/chksystemd/ > > > Hope this helps. > > > > PS: I think this is a ve

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:05:47 -0200, AC (Andre) wrote: > Maybe if there > was a similar documentation explaining to "old dogs" (myself included) how > to do SysV tasks the systemd way, transition would be easier. I know the > information is probably already on all the manpages somehow, but I'm > ta

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:55:55 +, MC (mike) wrote: > I would like to see something in systemctl to achieve what used to be > done with "service iptables save" - as another poster already said one > can manually do: > iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables > > Most daemon controls were done wit

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/13/2011 10:07 PM, Fedora User wrote: > SystemD fixes what weren't broke ;-) Seriously. It's easier to > eliminate it all and just script everything in rc.local. Not for any serious distribution developer or system administrator and btw, it is spelled "systemd" Rahul -- users mailing list

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:35:01 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > sorry, I meant: > > systemctl list-unit-files | grep enabled > > kevin That almost does it, but there is still something slightly different: [root@zooty ~]# ls /etc/systemd/system/*.wants/*.service | wc -l 31 [root@zooty ~]# systemctl li

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Fedora User
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:34:59 -0700 stan wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:17:41 -0500 > Tom Horsley wrote: > > > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:15:00 -0700 > > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > systemctl list-unit-files > > > > > > give you any of what you are looking for? > > > > That tells me what units

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:17:41 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:15:00 -0700 > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > systemctl list-unit-files > > > > give you any of what you are looking for? > > That tells me what units are available, not > what units are enabled to be started at boot. sor

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:34:59 -0700 stan wrote: > How about > systemctl -a -t service | less > and if you want only active services > systemctl -a -t service | grep -e " active " | less > or inactive similarly > systemctl -a -t service | grep -e " inactive " | less Still not the same, a service m

Re: chksystemd Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread suvayu ali
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 15:22, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: >> UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u2502' in >> position 0: ordinal not in range(128) > > Yay for unicode bugs!  Fixed in chksystemd-2 (along with a brown paper > bag bug that made the "reset" action not work), wh

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread stan
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:17:41 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:15:00 -0700 > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > systemctl list-unit-files > > > > give you any of what you are looking for? > > That tells me what units are available, not > what units are enabled to be started at boot. How

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Andre Costa
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:22, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:41:14 + > mike cloaked wrote: > > > Whilst we are on the subject can someone tell me what the systemd > > equivalent is for the command "service iptables save" ? > > I always just run the iptables-save program directly

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread mike cloaked
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/13/2011 04:42 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > >> >> Unfortunately, chkconfig itself doesn't translate to systemd well. >> However, this thread got me thinking that there is a need for a >> chkconfig-like tool for systemd.  So, I wrote

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/13/2011 04:42 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > > Unfortunately, chkconfig itself doesn't translate to systemd well. > However, this thread got me thinking that there is a need for a > chkconfig-like tool for systemd. So, I wrote one: > > http://tchol.org/chksystemd/ Perhaps patches to sys

Re: chksystemd Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 6:46 AM, suvayu ali wrote: > I can't seem to pipe the output or redirect it to a file. Try either > of those gives me this backtrace: > > graphical.target > Traceback (most recent call last): >  File "/usr/bin/chksystemd", line 241, in >    main() >  File "/usr/bin/chksyst

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:41:14 + mike cloaked wrote: > Whilst we are on the subject can someone tell me what the systemd > equivalent is for the command "service iptables save" ? I always just run the iptables-save program directly and redirect output to /etc/sysconfig/iptables if you really wa

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:15:00 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > systemctl list-unit-files > > give you any of what you are looking for? That tells me what units are available, not what units are enabled to be started at boot. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: chksystemd Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread suvayu ali
Hi, On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:34, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 4:22 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> 404 on the rpm > > Fixed.  Sorry about that! > I can't seem to pipe the output or redirect it to a file. Try either of those gives me this backtrace: graphical.target Tracebac

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread mike cloaked
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 11:12 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:00:13 -0500 >> Fedora User wrote: >> >>> The system does seem to >>> boot faster but this is really arcane compared to sysV which seemed >>> very straightfo

Re: chksystemd Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 4:22 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > 404 on the rpm Fixed. Sorry about that! -T.C. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wi

Re: chksystemd Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/13/2011 07:29 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/13/2011 07:22 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> On 13/11/11 11:12, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: >> >>> -T.C. >> 404 on the rpm >> >> > Fine from here... > Oooopss wrong link NOT fine from here... -- Even if you do learn to speak correct English, whom

Re: chksystemd Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/13/2011 07:22 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 13/11/11 11:12, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > >> -T.C. > 404 on the rpm > > Fine from here... -- Even if you do learn to speak correct English, whom are you going to speak it to? -- Clarence Darrow -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.or

chksystemd Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On 13/11/11 11:12, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > -T.C. 404 on the rpm -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Gui

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:00:13 -0500 > Fedora User wrote: > >> The system does seem to >> boot faster but this is really arcane compared to sysV which seemed >> very straightforward. > > Arcane is the word. One big problem is the complete > lack

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:10:36 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:00:13 -0500 > Fedora User wrote: > > > The system does seem to > > boot faster but this is really arcane compared to sysV which seemed > > very straightforward. > > Arcane is the word. One big problem is the complete

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:00:13 -0500 Fedora User wrote: > The system does seem to > boot faster but this is really arcane compared to sysV which seemed > very straightforward. Arcane is the word. One big problem is the complete lack of anything like chkconfig --list for systemd services (it would b

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-12 Thread Fedora User
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:27:34 -0700 "T.C. Hollingsworth" wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Fedora User > wrote: > > I've been doing this since RH 7.3. I'm an old fart and I don't do > > change well. There are 49 SystemD man pages. Each one is more > > esoteric than the Talmud. Seriously.

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-12 Thread Fedora User
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:53:05 -0700 "T.C. Hollingsworth" wrote: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Genes MailLists > wrote: > > On 11/11/2011 09:27 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > > \ > >> > >> systemd replaces numerical runlevels with named "targets".  Apart > >> from that, it works very simila

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-12 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 11/11/2011 09:27 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > \ >> >> systemd replaces numerical runlevels with named "targets".  Apart from >> that, it works very similar to how chkconfig works under the hood. >> "chkconfig --level 3 squid off" ess

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-12 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/11/2011 09:27 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: \ > > systemd replaces numerical runlevels with named "targets". Apart from > that, it works very similar to how chkconfig works under the hood. > "chkconfig --level 3 squid off" essentially just does "rm > /etc/rc3.d/squid". "chkconfig --level 5

Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-11 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Fedora User wrote: > I've been doing this since RH 7.3. I'm an old fart and I don't do change > well. There are 49 SystemD man pages. Each one is more esoteric than the > Talmud. Seriously. "Chkconfig" made perfect sense to me. I just need one > example to figure i

SystemD - F-16

2011-11-11 Thread Fedora User
I've been doing this since RH 7.3. I'm an old fart and I don't do change well. There are 49 SystemD man pages. Each one is more esoteric than the Talmud. Seriously. "Chkconfig" made perfect sense to me. I just need one example to figure it all out. If I want squid to start in L-5 but not L-3. Wha